Peridot Loot

[Klyre]

I am always amazed as I am sitting in a group trying to med back up (Cleric) from someone thinking they are invincible and pulling the entire zone after I have buffed them and Symbol them, when I see someone loot a Peridot.
I am not going to ask or beg or any of that nonsense for you to give it to either the Cleric or the Enchanter who can use it to save your butt. Nor do I say that you are not within your right to keep it being a member of that group. But really, what are you going to do with it? Sell it? Its worth 10 PP, and for most at the level where Peridots drop that isn't much. Many Kunark items are going for much more than that.
As your healer I almost never loot because I am too busy either Medding up or trying to save your ass. If I spent that time looting I would not have the mana to save you from your ill conceived train. (even with Clarity, if a Bard is there too, then OK)
I don't complain about that, your health is MY responsibility and I only loot when I know that someone isn't going to die or I (on those rare occasions) win a roll on an item. So not only do I not take a lot of the trash loot (which adds to your coffers) I spend a Peridot on the Tank to keep her happy, one on me as a timer so I don't die and then you die and another on the Chanter who is Monster bait. That's 30 PP every hour from my loot.

So the next time you are grouped with a Cleric or Chanter. Consider giving it to someone who can use. You also may want to watch and see how much your Cleric is looting and if they are not, offer another item that they can sell later.(Preferable light in nature) We may say we don't need it, but you should offer. It just might save your life.

[guineapig]

I'm an enchanter and I still hand every peridot over to the cleric in my groups. It's just good policy.

[Rand]

Should always go to cleric if one in group. No questions asked

[Holdar]

Maybe you should say something, or is it my responsibility to keep track of everyone's reagents?

[Mcbard]

I agree that peridots should go to the cleric, but I think it's all part of that "don't be an ass" mentality we just hope (incorrectly) that everybody shares. Then again, I've played with some pretty scrubby clerics who think that everybody wearing plate in an exp group needs to have symbol up at all times.

When I played my cleric/necro I never expected help with regents for my spells anyway and I had bags full of peridots/coffins/EE's I either payed for myself because it was part of playing my class or had looted over time. It was never a big deal if I didn't get every single peridot drop in a group because frankly I didn't think they were that expensive and I knew that over time I would get the amount I deserved in the long run anyway.

For every peridot drop that you don't get, there will be 3 that you do.

[oblexsis]

I use the Perdiot's I loot as a wizard.

[Deathrydar]

Should always go to cleric if one in group. No questions asked

^^

[hedbonker]

As a cleric I never ask for them. Every group I have been in always gives them to me though. It's not that big of a deal tbh...

[Lazortag]

I loot the peridots I see every time just so that I can guarantee it goes to the cleric. I also give most other gems (mithril amulets, sapphires, star rubies, etc.) to clerics so that they can afford peridots more easily. Looting a peridot just so you can sell it is like looting Words or some other research item just so you can vendor it. If there's someone else it could go to: don't be a dick. I also don't think clerics should hesitate to ask for one if someone else happens to loot a peridot, as I'm pretty sure most people would just hand it over.

[Fobbon]

On live, I made it standard practice to carry around a stack of dots to give to the cleric while grouped, after we broke up, or while exping if needed. I plan on repeating that practice here on p99. I played a ranger on live and again here on p99, so I can appreciate how valuable a cleric's mana is :)

[Supaskillz]

Honestly peridots drop so infrequently this seems like a non issue, but I do think the fact that clerics spend around 20-40pp per round of buffs should be noticed. I try to toss them some extra merchant gems to ensure that they get back their dot money.

I think that some people don't realize that clerics need to buy peridots to fully buff people or simply don't think about it. I am sure if you just said, "mind if I get the peridots" people would gladly give them to you.

[Chicka]

The rule on my server, at least for seb was, gems go two to the cleric then one each to the rest. And honestly, once you count in all the group a cleric joins, buffs, and then has break up 2 mins later - it evens out.

[Messianic]

I am always amazed as I am sitting in a group trying to med back up (Cleric) from someone thinking they are invincible and pulling the entire zone after I have buffed them and Symbol them, when I see someone loot a Peridot.
I am not going to ask or beg or any of that nonsense for you to give it to either the Cleric or the Enchanter who can use it to save your butt. Nor do I say that you are not within your right to keep it being a member of that group. But really, what are you going to do with it? Sell it? Its worth 10 PP, and for most at the level where Peridots drop that isn't much. Many Kunark items are going for much more than that.
As your healer I almost never loot because I am too busy either Medding up or trying to save your ass. If I spent that time looting I would not have the mana to save you from your ill conceived train. (even with Clarity, if a Bard is there too, then OK)
I don't complain about that, your health is MY responsibility and I only loot when I know that someone isn't going to die or I (on those rare occasions) win a roll on an item. So not only do I not take a lot of the trash loot (which adds to your coffers) I spend a Peridot on the Tank to keep her happy, one on me as a timer so I don't die and then you die and another on the Chanter who is Monster bait. That's 30 PP every hour from my loot.

So the next time you are grouped with a Cleric or Chanter. Consider giving it to someone who can use. You also may want to watch and see how much your Cleric is looting and if they are not, offer another item that they can sell later.(Preferable light in nature) We may say we don't need it, but you should offer. It just might save your life.

Maybe you should say something, or is it my responsibility to keep track of everyone's reagents?

I think your post would have been more effective this way:

Just in case anyone doesn't know, peridots are an important reagent for clerics, and given how important we are in groups, you should give them to us as opposed to selling them for approximately 10pp at a vendor.

Thanks!

[Knightmare]

Maybe you should say something, or is it my responsibility to keep track of everyone's reagents?

Have to agree with this part. I'd say you definitely deserve it. However prior to this post, I had no idea what reagents a Cleric/Enchanter/Wizard/Everyotherfuckingclassbutmyown uses for his/her spells. Reason being, I've never, ever played one. Not 10 years ago and not now, please don't blindly expect everyone to know what you need through some psychic ability. Hell, I barely even remember what reagents I need offhand for some of my own spells :)

You can still type and med I assume, yes?

[Labyrrinth]

Don't be shy, just ask! Most people aren't being greedy or selfish, they just either don't realize that some of our buffs costs or if they do, it's not something they actively think about.

All you have to say is something to the effect of "I'd like to recoup some of my peridot costs if that's ok"

[Klyre]

Have to agree with this part. I'd say you definitely deserve it. However prior to this post, I had no idea what reagents a Cleric/Enchanter/Wizard/Everyotherfuckingclassbutmyown uses for his/her spells. Reason being, I've never, ever played one. Not 10 years ago and not now, please don't blindly expect everyone to know what you need through some psychic ability. Hell, I barely even remember what reagents I need offhand for some of my own spells :)

You can still type and med I assume, yes?

Ahhh so you learned something today. Now you know. I actually agree with almost everything everyone has said here. If nothing else though, I had hoped to educate people about what it is like from a Clerics point of view. Am I going to go broke if you don't give me the Dot. No. I am doing OK thank you. I think that as a student of the game though that everyone whether you have played a class or not should familiarize themselves with the capability of other classes. It will make you a better player knowing what to expect.

Can I type and Med at the same time.....Yeah.....Should I have too...debatable.

[Ozudin]

Until today I had no idea Clerics needed peridots or and other gem for buffs. Kinda of shitty really. If I was a cleric I wouldn't cast those :p

[moklianne]

Anyone that has defected from Live and doesn't play a cleric probably would have never have even thought of this. They removed the reagent from symbols and a host of other spells many years ago.

Perodots for Cleric Symbols
Emeralds for Cleric's Divine Intervention (is it even in game yet? heh)
Opals for Druid's Wake of Karana (turning off rain/snow)

I'm sure there are a few others. Enchanters use something for Runes.

[Labyrrinth]

pearls for cleric death pact
pearls for mage CoTH

[Massive Marc]

/reroll

[Arclyte]

hey man back off maybe the op has asperger's

[Levon]

Add me to the list of people who didn't even know clerics need that stuff. Just speak up.

[Gorgetrapper]

I remember when I looted a ruby in chardok and gave it straight to the cleric (India), because I know they barely get any loot as it is.

[Labyrrinth]

I remember when I looted a ruby in chardok and gave it straight to the cleric (India), because I know they barely get any loot as it is.

<3 <3

[Susanbanthony]

What's a peridot?

[Ozudin]

What's a peridot?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eq+peridot

[Striiker]

What's a peridot?

It's a gemstone which is green in color.It drops off of random mobs of appropriate level and can be sold to a vendor for about 10 pp each. It is also the reagent used for some buffs (clerics and enchanters for example). It is consumed when the spell is cast.

As a side note, I never knew the correct pronunciation for peridot. I always thought of it as peri (like periscope) - dot (like polkadot). It's actually pronounced peri (like periscope) - doe (like bread dough). In my head though, I still think of it ending with a dot (hard to undo so many years of thinking like this) :-)

[Mcbard]

It's a gemstone which is green in color.It drops off of random mobs of appropriate level and can be sold to a vendor for about 10 pp each. It is also the reagent used for some buffs (clerics and enchanters for example). It is consumed when the spell is cast.

As a side note, I never knew the correct pronunciation for peridot. I always thought of it as peri (like periscope) - dot (like polkadot). It's actually pronounced peri (like periscope) - doe (like bread dough). In my head though, I still think of it ending with a dot (hard to undo so many years of thinking like this) :-)

People calling them "dots" hasn't made it any easier to get right! ;)

[Klyre]

People calling them "dots" hasn't made it any easier to get right! ;)

Doh!

[Knightmare]

Ahhh so you learned something today. Now you know. I actually agree with almost everything everyone has said here. If nothing else though, I had hoped to educate people about what it is like from a Clerics point of view. Am I going to go broke if you don't give me the Dot. No. I am doing OK thank you. I think that as a student of the game though that everyone whether you have played a class or not should familiarize themselves with the capability of other classes. It will make you a better player knowing what to expect.

Can I type and Med at the same time.....Yeah.....Should I have too...debatable.

Peridots are also used in the Iksar pike #5 quest (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=235). But then, as a student of Everquest I'm sure you already knew that. Personally, I'm not keeping track of every single reagent every single class uses. (Which wasn't you wanted anyway, you only wanted us to know what YOU use.)

If you need/want an item, just ask, you know, like a normal human being. And don't assume we all know what you need for your spells. Take some personal responsibility beyond a ranting post about your crappy tank who took a Peridot and got you killed.

The irony is, you call informing your group about this fact "debatable" but you'll come on these boards in a rant and then claim that all you wanted to do was educate people. Uh, hello? :confused:

[Klyre]

Peridots are also used in the Iksar pike #5 quest (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=235). But then, as a student of Everquest I'm sure you already knew that. Personally, I'm not keeping track of every single reagent every single class uses. (Which wasn't you wanted anyway, you only wanted us to know what YOU use.)

If you need/want an item, just ask, you know, like a normal human being. And don't assume we all know what you need for your spells. Take some personal responsibility beyond a ranting post about your crappy tank who took a Peridot and got you killed.

The irony is, you call informing your group about this fact "debatable" but you'll come on these boards in a rant and then claim that all you wanted to do was educate people. Uh, hello? :confused:

Ahhh Knightmare :(

You seem to want to make this into some kind of rant...I never claimed to be a Master of the game. I said a student. I told a story, and it was true. I never ranted against anyone that they were not within their rights. Nor did I say that I was killed.

I feel that it is deplorable that you feel the need to inject venom into this conversation. However I do thank you for the information on the Iskar Pike quest #5. Hopefully someone will find this useful.

[bman8810]

Peridots are also used in the Iksar pike #5 quest (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=235). But then, as a student of Everquest I'm sure you already knew that. Personally, I'm not keeping track of every single reagent every single class uses. (Which wasn't you wanted anyway, you only wanted us to know what YOU use.)

If you need/want an item, just ask, you know, like a normal human being. And don't assume we all know what you need for your spells. Take some personal responsibility beyond a ranting post about your crappy tank who took a Peridot and got you killed.

The irony is, you call informing your group about this fact "debatable" but you'll come on these boards in a rant and then claim that all you wanted to do was educate people. Uh, hello? :confused:

Honestly, up until this thread I thought that assuming everyone knew peridots were used for cleric symbols and enchanter runes was a pretty good assumption.

Boy was I wrong.

[shuklak]

I had a friend who played a high end cleric classic back in the day. He said he would make over 1-2k profit a night just from gems in places like seb.

[bizzum]

I had a friend who played a high end cleric classic back in the day. He said he would make over 1-2k profit a night just from gems in places like seb.

When scarabs had a 100% drop rate of nice gems, probably. I was in Seb for longer than I want to admit and splitting up the gems was still shy of 1k.

[gnomishfirework]

When scarabs had a 100% drop rate of nice gems, probably. I was in Seb for longer than I want to admit and splitting up the gems was still shy of 1k.

I made sick money on my ranger because of that.

[Bruno]

The past couple 50+ groups there have been at least one dude ninja looting and not sharing with the group. The pattern seems to be foreigners. What's up with that? Anyways, peridots always go to clerics, and you should try to make an effort to make sure he's getting his fair share of loot to make up for the rest and some. If you experience what you just did, like I just did, you really need to say something, because people like that are going to take advantage of you if they can get away with it and just blame it on being stoned.

[Sponge]

Peridots are pretty cheap. Like 210pp / stack. I usually roll with about 10 stacks. I never run out. I'm also awesome.

[Acillatem]

Even tho I need peridots for Manaskin (500ish pt rune w/ 1mana per tick) - as a WIZ I still give the 'dots to the CLR. And yes, I assume most people who play EQ have at LEAST a general understanding of the other classes. I've never played anything other than a WIZ, but I know all the reagents involved for the other classes just thru general gameplay.

[Labyrrinth]

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As a side note, I never knew the correct pronunciation for peridot. I always thought of it as peri (like periscope) - dot (like polkadot). It's actually pronounced peri (like periscope) - doe (like bread dough). In my head though, I still think of it ending with a dot (hard to undo so many years of thinking like this) :-)

Both pronunciations are correct :)

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=peridot

http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?perido02.wav=peridot

And just because it's interesting:
Peridot's history begins on a small desert island 50 miles or so off the southeast coast of Egypt in the Red Sea. The name of the island has changed many times over recorded history. Ancient literature calls the island Topazion, sometimes referred to as Topazos, but it now goes by two names-- its most recent label, Zabargad, and its immediate past name of St. John's. "Zabargad" is the Arabic word for peridot, although the English word "peridot" is said to have com from "Faridat," the Arabic word for gem. Coming from "faridat" could account for the American Southwest's pronunciation of peridot as "PEAR-a-dot," instead of the more common pronunciation (taken from the French), "PEAR-a-doe."

[Striiker]

Both pronunciations are correct :)

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And just because it's interesting:
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Thanks! It was interesting to learn these details. While we're on this little side-rail (not a full derailing the thread) I had also mispronounced some the the various names in EQ such as Qeynos and Najena. I then read some posts back in the day from the devs or producers and learned how to properly pronounce the names (and some of the history behind the names). Always interesting to learn little details..

[xshayla701]

I have to have like 15 stacks of malachite so I'll take any goddamn peridot I want.

Unless I want my cleric partner to symbol my pet /cough ZARINA

:)

[Kika Maslyaka]

IMHO idea that combat performance can be bought with cash was just stupid design concept (similarly as idea to give unfair advantage to some classes to make cash via usage of their spells). It was great when they removed this thing

[Kika Maslyaka]

Thanks! It was interesting to learn these details. While we're on this little side-rail (not a full derailing the thread) I had also mispronounced some the the various names in EQ such as Qeynos and Najena. I then read some posts back in the day from the devs or producers and learned how to properly pronounce the names (and some of the history behind the names). Always interesting to learn little details..

from day one I pronounce Qeynos as "K'-WAY-NOS" :D
And that's the only right way in my book! :p

[Dantes]

I always forget. Just last night I looted a peridot. I didn't realize it until I sold it to a vendor later... I was thinking wait a minute... don't clerics need these? Sometimes we just don't really pay attention when there's pulls happening non-stop and there's corpses piling up. Just be like "Hey can I get that peridot?" Works every time.

[Lumathix]

Until today I had no idea Clerics needed peridots or and other gem for buffs. Kinda of shitty really. If I was a cleric I wouldn't cast those :p

That would make you a shitty cleric. :)

[shuklak]

That would make you a shitty cleric. :)
lol yep.... clerics need peridots to buff certain classes in certain situations. but it's not like they have to have any particular item. Just make sure they get the value back via coin or item so it doesn't actually "cost" them money.

On the flip side, I'm against clerics getting all cash loot regardless. Back on live on Xegony it was retarded. Like i said earlier, my RL friend was a cleric and make over 1k every time he grinded. Great if you get in on that, but sucks when you're on the other side walking away with some crap loot knowing your cleric is about to cash out because he casted a buff 8 times that cost 10plat a pop, lol.

[Ongbak]

I always and everyone in group give them to clerics on live back in the days ;)

[Orc Pawn]

If you're not giving Peridots to the Cleric you're just being silly.

[Tollen]

I agree with OP, last night I looted a dot (no cleric in group) we later got a cleric and I gave it to her not even thinking or being asked, its just what you do IMO.