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Kinaki
09-24-2019, 05:43 PM
Primal Velium Brawl Stick (https://wiki.project1999.com/Primal_Velium_Brawl_Stick)
Primal Velium Claidhmore (https://wiki.project1999.com/Primal_Velium_Claidhmore)
Primal Velium War Lance (https://wiki.project1999.com/Primal_Velium_War_Lance)

Bo Staff of Trorsmang (https://wiki.project1999.com/Bo_Staff_of_Trorsmang)
Blackstone Maul (https://wiki.project1999.com/Blackstone_Maul)

Kinaki
09-24-2019, 07:13 PM
Cancel on the Primal Velium War Lance - it's the only primal 2hander already upgraded to 45/44.

Kinaki
10-10-2019, 11:20 AM
I was able to spot a post on Allakazam (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6737#m100580877961054) regarding the upgraded piercer stats. It looks like it was likely updated on the November 7, 2001 patch (the same one to add /tgb).

I realize the Primal Lance is the only Primal Two Hander already upgraded on p99, but it's highly unlikely it was upgraded and the others were not at the same time on Live.

Kinaki
10-10-2019, 01:52 PM
The Bo Staff and Blackstone Maul were to already have been updated (but haven't been) according to Kanras https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79617

elwing
03-20-2020, 01:26 AM
Bump for this old but still valid post, most two hander primal but the lance still miss the new ratio and stats

Notaa
03-20-2020, 04:58 AM
I've been looking forward to bo staff upgrade for years I hope this gets fixed :D

Pretzelle
03-20-2020, 09:00 AM
Primal Velium Battle Axe and Bow too. Still sitting at 33/35.

Katran
03-23-2020, 05:03 PM
Would also like to bump this for a possible next patch.

Priceless 2h weapons and the primal 2hp got upgraded, other primals still have pre upgrade stats.

Would be awesome if those could get fixed.

Notaa
03-25-2020, 05:52 PM
^^

Pretzelle
04-19-2020, 09:33 AM
Bump. With all the nerfs can we get a bit of good news? These items are still not accurate.

Toomuch
04-19-2020, 09:45 AM
I second the motion to update these.

Notaa
04-22-2020, 08:15 PM
^

Katran
04-25-2020, 11:39 AM
Taking up the upcoming fix of the Bo Staff of Trorsmang (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343998) I would like to propose changing Primal Two Handed Weapons, that have not been updated to supposed post patch values.

Primal Velium Brawl Stick (https://wiki.project1999.com/Primal_Velium_Brawl_Stick)
Primal Velium Claidhmore (https://wiki.project1999.com/Primal_Velium_Claidhmore)


Oct 8, 2001 (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011008.html)
Summary of Melee Changes:
Two-Handed Weapons have been given an increased damage bonus for characters over level 50. Also, certain post-epic quality two-handers have been improved.

So far only one of the two handed Primal weapons has been upgraded:

Primal Velium War Lance (https://wiki.project1999.com/Primal_Velium_War_Lance)

Research from Kinaki indicated that the Primal Velium War Lance got upgraded on the November 7th 2001 patch:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2980662&postcount=3
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6737#m100580877961054

Synthlol found excellent evidence for the upgrade of the Bo Staff of Trorsmang due to archived versions of Allakhazam where the updated item stats were shown. Unfortunately not every item page is preserved in that way. Examples for Primal Velium Brawl Stick and Primal Velium War Lance show pre-patch stats in early 2002, though comments in both sites indicate that updates have been done to both weapons (at least the War lance in November 2001, Brawl Stick comments were not before April 2002). Due to forum comments not being very reliable, it is very hard to pinpoint the exact patch those were changed.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020427161354/http://everquest.allakhazam.com:80/db/item.html?item=6737
https://web.archive.org/web/20181004213616/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6088&mid=101983634062609
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6089#m101850992620118

In case of the brawl stick the update might have posted later in the timeline because it's the time when the posting person (Boshuda) got the item.

A good evidence for a previous upgrade is the following source:
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5619
A post from September 21st 2001 decribes the update to the Primal Velium Claidhmore:
Primal Velium Claidhmore (was 33/35 AC:10 +5 to all stats/resists +50hp/mana) is now:
DMG: 47 DLY: 43 AC:17 +8 to all stats/resists +75 hp/mana

A Screenshot on this page shows a Primal Velium Brawl Stick in the post stat version at on march 8th 2002:
http://kensbar.net/eq/petit/20020308.html
So the stats have definetly been updated before April 2002, still not clearly visible if it has been 2001 :-(.

Since it seems illogical to change one Primal (in this case the War Lance) but not the Brawl Stick and the Claidhmore at the same time, I ask to change the stats of those primals to post patch values, to be in line with their priceless and primal brothers and sister.

Telin
04-26-2020, 01:50 AM
Fixed, pending update.

Hideousclaw
04-26-2020, 02:21 AM
Fixed, pending update.

Bless you, Devs <3 Thank you. My bo staff and primal 2hb love you (I do too)

Pretzelle
04-26-2020, 09:18 AM
Fixed, pending update.

Hopefully that got the Primal Velium Battle Axe as well
! https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5826

Katran
04-26-2020, 04:27 PM
Thanks Telin, highly appreciate it!