DoT Damage is being displayed

[Daldaen]

July 2003 Patch (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20030611a.html)

Reporting Damage Over Time - Damage over Time (DoT) done to NPCs will now be reported to the caster every time it does damage. These messages can be filtered in the Options window.

Basically you should not get a message every tic that it does damage. Only a landing and a worn off message for your DoTs.

The timeline for the spell data file has been set already, there is no need to continue showing DoT tics on Green.

[Rogean]

Your link is timing out.

I also don't see it here: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2003-2.html

[Dolalin]

Looks like the typhoon has taken out the Japanese patch history site :eek:

[Solist]

accurate though, dots never showed damage.

[Daldaen]

Your link is timing out.

I also don't see it here: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2003-2.html

Dolalin appears to be right the EQ patch website is hosted in Japan and there typhoon seems to have destroyed a large chunk of infrastructure.

However I found another source for this:

June 11th Patch Notes (http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-471.html)

- Reporting Damage Over Time - Damage over Time (DoT) done to NPCs will now be reported to the caster every time it does damage. These messages can be filtered in the Options window.

Coincidentally this is also the patch note that introduced scroll wheel to 3rd person. Not sure if that’s on the chopping block or not but it’s definitely a bit immersion killing.

[Rogean]

Coincidentally this is also the patch note that introduced scroll wheel to 3rd person. Not sure if that’s on the chopping block or not but it’s definitely a bit immersion killing.

Not really, considering you can just F9 for 6 different camera angles, some of them similar to scroll wheel.

[Daldaen]

I think there's something to be said about how the seamless transition between 1st and 3rd person offered by scroll wheel encourages more people to play in 3rd person granting them greater view of their surroundings. While F9 views can accomplish a similar thing, they are clumsy and not friendly to use in regular play, usually only used for specific scenarios.

However that was a tangent from the main purpose of this thread, which is to make sure DoT classes don't have a leg up over other classes by having information on when their DoTs will end.

[nilbog]

Basically you should not get a message every tic that it does damage. Only a landing and a worn off message for your DoTs.


I believe this is the case and should be changed. I am looking for a prekunark/kunark/velious screenshot showing this in action. Anyone have one?

[Daldaen]

https://web.stanford.edu/group/htgg/cgi-bin/drupal/sites/default/files2/wrozelle_2002_1.pdf

If you look at the pictures embedded on pages 8 & 10 of the PDF you see him casting Heat Blood, the message for the spell landing and then a few combat rounds with no resulting DoT tick shown. Unfortunately this is an early Luclin timeframe due to the skeleton model and the ability to still use that old UI.

Still looking for a Velious era screenshot. Sadly all the biggest screenshot archives are from Rogue Monk or Warrior vantage points.

[Sunderfury]

Don't recall, but are you seeing damage message from taking poison/dot damage from an NPC on P99? Found this image of just the poison message but not damage resulting.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010825234839/http://mercenaries-of-darkness.net/images/events/epics/arae/EQ000030.jpg

Side note, not sure if she can proc the poison on P99, never did the fight (assuming rogue poison)

[Sunderfury]

Not sure if this screenshot shows evidence, but Necro has 2 Bonds of Death spells wear off (lifetap DoT).
https://web.archive.org/web/20030120133633/http://lolf.de/img_misc/xz19_burningwood.jpg

At one point it shows Filastil (a necro) beginning to cast a spell, then there are 2 wear off messages from Bond of Death, then Filastil says 'VoS stuck'.

Looking up necro spells, I'm guessing that is 'Venom of the Snake', according to wiki a 4.6 second casting time. Seems a long span of time for a message to receive.

Regardless, even if the Bond of Death is wearing off, I am assuming the final tick processes and you would have received the final 'Damage DoT' messages for each of those ticks. I don't see those here.

Full list of the screen archives is here, but clearly shows mid 2000ish posts of raids and the like, mentions of 'exploring kunark' etc.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010729091555/http://www.lolf.de:80/misc_photo.htm

[Rogean]

Dot Damage Reporting Removed.

[Awweshux]

Ugh.

[Puluin]

I don't have info or evidence, however bard songs currently do not give a "worn off" message.
If the no dot messages are applied, bards need a way to see if their dot is still in affect.

Without a worn off message or a dot displayed, how are we supposed to properly stack dots when all we can do is guess if the dot is still going?

Please note bard songs are 4 ticks tops.

At the very least we need worn off messages for bard songs.

Also on a side note, pet buff spells also are not giving a worn of message causing yet another guessing game.

It was not intended for us to constantly guess at what is still in affect.

[Feathers]

Don't care. Totally hate it.

[Videri]

I don't have info or evidence, however bard songs currently do not give a "worn off" message.
If the no dot messages are applied, bards need a way to see if their dot is still in affect.

Without a worn off message or a dot displayed, how are we supposed to properly stack dots when all we can do is guess if the dot is still going?

Please note bard songs are 4 ticks tops.

At the very least we need worn off messages for bard songs.

Also on a side note, pet buff spells also are not giving a worn of message causing yet another guessing game.

It was not intended for us to constantly guess at what is still in affect.

We are currently at the following stage of grief over DoT ticks:
................................Here.............. ................................
Denial -> Anger -> Bargaining -> Depression -> Acceptance

[Videri]

Just messin’ with ya.