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Ektar
08-18-2010, 03:20 AM
Flustered? Nah. Actually I think its quite cool you guys were able to accomplish. After all it is a big accomplishment. My sarcasm was directed at a few arrogant members of your guild who never miss an opportunity to take credit for being great and do nothing but bash others but whatever.

oh my bee!

they can defend themselves :P

Beau
08-18-2010, 03:27 AM
Don't put trash mob haste belt drops on the list. Those things are a dime a dozen, and hardly best in slot. That makes less sense than gem inlaid gauntlets as a milestone :p If you want haste belts, put completed 41% quest belts for appropriate classes.

Beau
08-18-2010, 03:31 AM
I also don't really agree with the fairy princess being a "boss mob." A solid group could probably take her out with out to much trouble. :p

I understand if this thread isn't being taken serious anymore then maybe someone else should take over. Otherwise whats the point of even listing it honestly?

Hasbinbad
08-18-2010, 02:35 PM
I understand if this thread isn't being taken serious anymore then maybe someone else should take over.
Not taken seriously by you and Gwence? Oooooh nooooooes!!!

Whatever shall I do if your opinions try and invalidate my post?!?

Rolling On The Floor, Laughing My Fucking Ass Off
<laughing my="" fucking="" ass="" off="">
Please desist from attempting to use your suppositions of your imaginary social superiority over me as a prosthesis for your own emotional stagnance.</laughing>

Ektar
08-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Without flappin my ability to use a thesaurus, I will use normal words.

Same to you, bro.











Get it? Because really, why do your suppositions of your imaginary social superiority over them get to be used as a prosthesis for your own emotional stagnancy?

Your opinions on what is deserving of this list is (technically) equal to their opinions.

Hasbinbad
08-18-2010, 04:52 PM
Without flappin my ability to use a thesaurus, I will use normal words.
Didn't use a thesaurus. -1
Your opinions on what is deserving of this list is (technically) equal to their opinions.
Maybe, but I usually go to the opinions of several people before I post something. If there is an outcry from the general populace (not just your IB flunkies) to change something in this list, I do, as noted in the posts history.

Bite me Ektard, go white-knight Gwence in some other post (he looks stupid in a vast array of other threads, it shouldn't be hard) and quit shitting up this thread.

http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/attachments/ancient-medieval-early-modern-ages/11596d1220309043-afghanistan-legends-gtfo-take-fail.jpg

Ektar
08-18-2010, 05:09 PM
I asked a bunch of people, too.

They agreed those are silly server first titles.

Hasbinbad
08-18-2010, 05:11 PM
I asked a bunch of people, too.

They agreed those are silly server first titles.
Have them post.

Ektar
08-18-2010, 05:16 PM
Your lack of understanding of my points is disappointing.

Hasbinbad
08-18-2010, 05:23 PM
Your lack of understanding of my points is disappointing.
Then please elucidate your "points" so that my limited powers of understanding will be sufficient to grasp your meaning.

Ektar
08-18-2010, 05:27 PM
Meh, there'd be no point to elucidating my points because there's no getting anywhere with you. I find it more in my best interest to let them stand and allow others to pick up on them and laugh at your failure to comprehend.

Hasbinbad
08-18-2010, 05:53 PM
Shadow army tactics. Gotchya.

k.

Beau
08-18-2010, 07:46 PM
I don't think you do things because its what the public asked for, I think you do things because you think you are funny and are trying for a cheap laugh. Half your posts I read have me convinced that you are an idiot, so please, for the love of god, don't try to feign intelligence by busting out some one liner you threw together using dictionary.com, because honestly it makes you look desperate.

Please desist from attempting to use your suppositions of your imaginary social superiority over me as a prosthesis for your own emotional stagnance.

Hahah... Pretentious much? Read the rest of your posts, this doesn't really fit.

Otto
08-18-2010, 07:50 PM
Then please elucidate your "points" so that my limited powers of understanding will be sufficient to grasp your meaning.

Hasbinbad, You're not fucking dumb. You know what you're doing and you know its going to irritate people.

Hasbinbad
08-19-2010, 12:32 AM
Hasbinbad, You're not fucking dumb. You know what you're doing and you know its going to irritate people.
Thank you Otto, for your lack of total disrespect and for not being a jackoff to me for no other reason than a guild tag.

Updated the Spiroc Lord entry. I really think the joke should live on, but this edit might be more acceptable to you and yours?

Otto
08-19-2010, 12:35 AM
Updated the Spiroc Lord entry. I really think the joke should live on, but this edit might be more acceptable to you and yours?

That's all I would ever ask for. Looks good, and yes... the joke should most definitely live on.

Zordana
08-19-2010, 03:05 PM
btw.. i have full indicolite set (including both bracers) \o/

Starklen
08-19-2010, 03:49 PM
You list 25 pets and there were only 13 pet casters. Not sure if that is supposed to be part of the joke or if you want it accurate.

Hasbinbad
08-19-2010, 04:05 PM
btw.. i have full indicolite set (including both bracers) \o/
I know you probably weren't the first with it, but if nobody posts a contradictory claim I will update soon.

guineapig
08-19-2010, 04:18 PM
You list 25 pets and there were only 13 pet casters. Not sure if that is supposed to be part of the joke or if you want it accurate.

The joke had to do with chain casting them. :p

Starklen
08-19-2010, 05:48 PM
I think that if your belief is that 13 pets can be chained to kill the Spiroc Lord there is a much bigger joke at play. I'd love to be able to tell you all the working pieces of the strategy, but that would spoil the fun.

Uaellaen
08-19-2010, 11:04 PM
to be quite honest, if its so easy to kill the spiroc lord with chaining 13 pets, why dont you others just do it?

Storklen
08-19-2010, 11:24 PM
I think that if your belief is that 13 pets can be chained to kill the Spiroc Lord there is a much bigger joke at play. I'd love to be able to tell you all the working pieces of the strategy, but that would spoil the fun.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x115/Phukt_photos/Starklen.jpg

Hasbinbad
08-20-2010, 01:05 AM
to be quite honest, if its so easy to kill the spiroc lord with chaining 13 pets, why dont you others just do it?
Your nose is a bit brown there buddy; do you believe everything certain people tell you (rhetorical)? There were far more than 13 pets up (during a period of very low [nil] pet activity elsewhere, zone-wide), sorry.

..also, quit shitting up this thread. There's a perfectly good RnF you cunts can use to whine..

Hasbinbad
08-20-2010, 01:52 AM
Went through the entire thread, found some things I missed, and updated (someone besides zordana please claim full indicolite lol).

People that have done long quests, please post again and explain why the quests were long (for I am ignorant). I want to add a Quested Items section that would differentiate rare drop milestones from quested. I probably glazed over several items in this thread because I didn't know they were tough quests. Please indicate quested items from now on, and give a brief synopsis of the work required for the quest, so it can be determined whether or not it is a milestone (or was at the time).

Zordana
08-20-2010, 11:44 AM
I know you probably weren't the first with it, but if nobody posts a contradictory claim I will update soon.

set it to Rumzuck please ;)

...Raren
08-20-2010, 12:18 PM
Went through the entire thread, found some things I missed, and updated (someone besides zordana please claim full indicolite lol).

People that have done long quests, please post again and explain why the quests were long (for I am ignorant). I want to add a Quested Items section that would differentiate rare drop milestones from quested. I probably glazed over several items in this thread because I didn't know they were tough quests. Please indicate quested items from now on, and give a brief synopsis of the work required for the quest, so it can be determined whether or not it is a milestone (or was at the time).

Oh now u want to do a quested section now? dont tell me you were the first rogue with the posky rogue quest item thats why u want to do it right lol?

Zyvixious
08-20-2010, 12:26 PM
serious this kid has his own head so far up his own ass im surprised that fag can even see his monitor to play! dam hasbin u gonna tell the server that u were the first to nerd rage quit bc me and my friends didnt waist our time camping AC with bc u didnt wanna be alone wheres a post for that ?

Starklen
08-20-2010, 08:38 PM
Your nose is a bit brown there buddy; do you believe everything certain people tell you (rhetorical)? There were far more than 13 pets up (during a period of very low [nil] pet activity elsewhere, zone-wide), sorry.

..also, quit shitting up this thread. There's a perfectly good RnF you cunts can use to whine..

This is wrong. If you want me to list out the names of the pet classes that were there I can certainly do that. Please don't make things up.

Gwence
08-21-2010, 02:17 AM
Bazzt Zzzt down to IB, yet another server first.

girth
08-21-2010, 02:19 AM
Bazzt Zzzt down to IB, yet another server first.

Sounds legit, much respect.

Atennu
08-21-2010, 02:22 AM
Bazzt Zzzt down to IB, yet another server first.

Doesnt involve Hasbin. Incoming another flame / no respect / not legit excuse.

Evorix
08-21-2010, 02:33 AM
Bazzt Zzzt
Number on island: 1
Level: 63
Aggressive: Yes
Assist: Yes
Hits for: 850
HPs:
Resists: High (except Lure Line)
Specials: Spawns when Bzzt is killed; Cast Deadly Poison (1200 DoT); Death Touches; AoE disease spell (covers whole island); Her death spawns Sirran the Lunatic
always one of:
Divine Honeycomb

Sounds legit to me...

Mmohunter
08-21-2010, 02:44 AM
much respect.

Pheer
08-21-2010, 02:45 AM
Yeah because we all know mobs here are exactly the way theyre described on alla's

Nizzarr
08-21-2010, 02:53 AM
so you admit you fought a bugged mob? much respect.

Evorix
08-21-2010, 02:53 AM
Yeah because we all know mobs here are exactly the way theyre described on alla's

that wasn't alla, and i compared that to 2 other websites. he is obviously bugged as i did not see a single death touch

Starklen
08-21-2010, 03:00 AM
Are you just done farming keeper so nizzarr can make rent this month?

Pheer
08-21-2010, 03:16 AM
that wasn't alla, and i compared that to 2 other websites. he is obviously bugged as i did not see a single death touch

You mad bro?

Evorix
08-21-2010, 03:18 AM
You mad bro?

Not at all. I just don't see bazzt being doable until kunark if he is properly coded.

Pheer
08-21-2010, 03:19 AM
Not at all. I just don't see bazzt being doable until kunark if he is properly coded.

Funny how you guys are theorizing on the feasibility of mobs on here when you haven't even tried to fight them.

Evorix
08-21-2010, 03:30 AM
Funny how you guys are theorizing on the feasibility of mobs on here when you haven't even tried to fight them.

Ya, guess we need to start copying your leet strats.

Starklen
08-21-2010, 03:31 AM
Guess you need to stop farming for nizzarr's rent money.

Hasbinbad
08-21-2010, 03:50 AM
Funny how you guys are theorizing on the feasibility of mobs on here when you haven't even tried to fight them.
..a lot of us fought him on live dude, and if you did, you would know the difference..

..wtf am I saying, of course you know.

Gwence
08-21-2010, 03:56 AM
of course we do! It was only 8-10 years ago, Im sure we all remember it exactly!

Hasbinbad
08-21-2010, 03:57 AM
of course we do! It was only 8-10 years ago, Im sure we all remember it exactly!
You? Maybe not so much.

Pheer
08-21-2010, 04:17 AM
Im just saying its pretty funny we get called whiney bitches for reporting spiroc lord being too hard, then when a mob is bugged to be a bit easier then all the sudden everyone is all up in arms.

Hasbinbad
08-21-2010, 04:28 AM
mob is bugged to be a bit easier
much respect

Pheer
08-21-2010, 04:31 AM
much respect

Im not saying the mob is easy by any means, DT in the grand scheme of things really would have just meant a couple more deaths.

Hasbinbad
08-21-2010, 04:31 AM
..all I know is that lord was BARELY farmable by a guild 50-56 during kunark, and the 'trash' bees kicked that same guilds ass (hard) with absolutely NO effort. To sit here and claim the kill on the bugged out top bee with a group of 50s in pre-kunark gear as if its some sort of respect-worthy accomplishment is laughable.

If you guys had a shred of self-respect you would stop farming bugged mobs to gain illegitimate access to an area you know damn well you shouldn't be able ascend to yet.

Pheer
08-21-2010, 04:39 AM
..all I know is that lord was BARELY farmable by a guild 50-56 during kunark, and the 'trash' bees kicked that same guilds ass (hard) with absolutely NO effort. To sit here and claim the kill on the bugged out top bee with a group of 50s in pre-kunark gear as if its some sort of respect-worthy accomplishment is laughable.

If you guys had a shred of self-respect you would stop farming bugged mobs to gain illegitimate access to an area you know damn well you shouldn't be able ascend to yet.

Go try the mobs then if theyre too easy, seriously.

Hasbinbad
08-21-2010, 04:49 AM
Go try the mobs then if theyre too easy, seriously.
Look, I'm not stupid. I know first hand that IB's raid force is currently the most powerful on the server. Probably no other guild could do it as it stands. That, however, doesn't invalidate my point, and you know that damned well. You guys should not have been able to progress through the bees, sky above 5 is fucked, and trying to sit here and claim like your kills are legit is fucking ridiculous. Your self-flattering hyperbole is both transparent to anyone know knows better and makes you look fucking stupid.

Hasbinbad
08-21-2010, 04:51 AM
It's basically the same thing as divinity/transcendence "killing" mayong and trying to act all hard. Do you remember how hard we all laughed? ..yeah.

Gwence
08-21-2010, 05:00 AM
sister of the spire downed to IB, grats us another server first!

Hasbinbad
08-21-2010, 05:02 AM
sister of the spire downed to IB, grats us another server first!
much respect

Pheer
08-21-2010, 05:09 AM
So who is going to report what needs to be fixed with 5 and above? You guys sure arent doing shit but sit on your asses and farm KoS's round the clock while we actually make progress and contribute with bug reports. Then when we report something we're called pussies if its harder than it should be or get mocked for killing something 'too easy'.

What do you expect us to do? Just sit beside you on 3 or 4 and fight over the same easy mobs every day while nothing gets done with 5 and up?

girth
08-21-2010, 05:16 AM
So who is going to report what needs to be fixed with 5 and above? You guys sure arent doing shit but sit on your asses and farm KoS's round the clock while we actually make progress and contribute with bug reports. Then when we report something we're called pussies if its harder than it should be or get mocked for killing something 'too easy'.

What do you expect us to do? Just sit beside you on 3 or 4 and fight over the same easy mobs every day while nothing gets done with 5 and up?

Might as well close the thread after this post. Ektar has one anyways that isn't kept by a child.

whitebandit
08-21-2010, 05:36 AM
So who is going to report what needs to be fixed with 5 and above? You guys sure arent doing shit but sit on your asses and farm KoS's round the clock while we actually make progress and contribute with bug reports. Then when we report something we're called pussies if its harder than it should be or get mocked for killing something 'too easy'.

What do you expect us to do? Just sit beside you on 3 or 4 and fight over the same easy mobs every day while nothing gets done with 5 and up?

All im going to say is that this is probably the most legitimate thing that has been said from your side..

Hasbinbad
08-21-2010, 06:31 AM
So who is going to report what needs to be fixed with 5 and above? You guys sure arent doing shit but sit on your asses and farm KoS's round the clock while we actually make progress and contribute with bug reports. Then when we report something we're called pussies if its harder than it should be or get mocked for killing something 'too easy'.

What do you expect us to do? Just sit beside you on 3 or 4 and fight over the same easy mobs every day while nothing gets done with 5 and up?
All im going to say is that this is probably the most legitimate thing that has been said from your side..
Yeah I really don't have anything to say about that either.

If this had been the attitude ya'll portrayed from the get, you'd look a great deal less stupid imo. Instead, you have fucktards like Gwence claiming greatness coz of a couple bugged mobs that don't really mean anything at all. Anyone who was there for real knows those mobs aren't anything close to what they were.

It's very nice of you that you let the retards out of their cages tho Pheersome.

Gwence
08-21-2010, 07:00 AM
no one but you and your harem of misfits thinks we look stupid

Zordana
08-21-2010, 11:57 AM
I know you probably weren't the first with it, but if nobody posts a contradictory claim I will update soon.

btw, i got it for months now, and since some indicolite parts are crap, i probably might be the first.. i just dont visit the forum that often anymore, cause of all the crap in here

Bossco
08-21-2010, 11:59 AM
I don't understand why you wont give all 6 of us credit for being the first ones to master every language. We literally COULD NOT have done it with out each other. All six of us should be listed.

Wrei
08-21-2010, 12:29 PM
Yeah I really don't have anything to say about that either.

If this had been the attitude ya'll portrayed from the get, you'd look a great deal less stupid imo. Instead, you have fucktards like Gwence claiming greatness coz of a couple bugged mobs that don't really mean anything at all. Anyone who was there for real knows those mobs aren't anything close to what they were.

It's very nice of you that you let the retards out of their cages tho Pheersome.

Hasbinbad, this thread has been entertaining to be sure but seriously? Are you arguing about the integrity of IB and actually calling us a bunch of sketchbags for doing progression? Despite what all you self professed experts think about Island 5 upwards it definitely isn't a keyboard faceroll. We've paid dearly to progress, it's not like we rolled over mobs who were completely immobile and did not attack. In fact I'd argue it's a lot harder than it should be (compared to live) but bringing that fact up makes us "whiners"?

The thread is server firsts, we post a message about downing a boss and you generalize our entire guild as chest flexing braggers? Come on now, personally I don't give a fuck what the rest of you think of IB. We are committed to progression (unlike some of you who sing the song but can't dance), and until you come up here and actually pay your dues raid wise kindly STFU (that goes to all of you sky experts).

As for questioning our self respect... Let us forget the fact that the mobs aren't "bugged" like you think they are. Your telling me that DA would stop raiding 5 because beating Lord who hits harder than he should be is "buggy"? That beating a harder version of the Lord is "exploiting"? I know some of you are butt hurt over this but don't talk about integrity with a DA guild tag. Should go back to GM favoritism cause this is some seriously weak flame.

Hasbinbad
08-21-2010, 02:49 PM
I'd argue it's a lot harder than it should be (compared to live)
I just lost so much respect for you.

Icecometus
08-21-2010, 04:17 PM
I, for one, am surprised that the Wasps have been downed. I am glad IB is doing the work to get the mobs working correctly :) I do think that we should wait till the mobs are working right to award a server first tho.

Wrei
08-21-2010, 04:56 PM
I just lost so much respect for you.

So your saying Spiroc Lord hitting a lot harder than he should is easier than on live because of what exactly? :confused:

I lost what little respect I had left if that's what your really thinking.

Ektar
08-21-2010, 05:38 PM
I just came and it splattered on my monitor in the shape of jesus.

SERVER FIRST

Straif
08-21-2010, 05:42 PM
I just came and it splattered on my monitor in the shape of jesus.

SERVER FIRST

lmao!!

Starklen
08-21-2010, 06:16 PM
When you get done farming up Durison some cash for diapers this month, you should go check out the spiroc lord. It hits a lot harder than it did on live.

Beau
08-21-2010, 06:18 PM
Silly Starklen, Durison doesn't wear diapers! That's what the socks are for.

Hasbinbad
08-22-2010, 04:45 AM
So your saying Spiroc Lord hitting a lot harder than he should is easier than on live because of what exactly? :confused:

I lost what little respect I had left if that's what your really thinking.
I was referring to you implying that bees etc are harder than they were on live, but after re-reading, i see that you're probably using very vague language to indicate the spiroc lord only. After fighting them, I can tell you that all Spirocs other than lord are broken (what a let down - island 3 trash is harder), 6 and 7 are definitely broken as they should not be anything close to killable with a classic raid force. Anyone who has raided sky back then would be able to affirm that. I don't begrude that you are progressing as long as you are in good faith reporting how easy 5, 6, and 7 are. Coming to these forums to gloat about it, however, especially the way some IB are, would be in poor taste even if they were close to the same difficulty of classic. Given that they are completely broken it makes those people and any organization they belong to look extremely foolish to all but the ignorant.

girth
08-22-2010, 05:31 AM
I was referring to you implying that bees etc are harder than they were on live, but after re-reading, i see that you're probably using very vague language to indicate the spiroc lord only. After fighting them, I can tell you that all Spirocs other than lord are broken (what a let down - island 3 trash is harder), 6 and 7 are definitely broken as they should not be anything close to killable with a classic raid force. Anyone who has raided sky back then would be able to affirm that. I don't begrude that you are progressing as long as you are in good faith reporting how easy 5, 6, and 7 are. Coming to these forums to gloat about it, however, especially the way some IB are, would be in poor taste even if they were close to the same difficulty of classic. Given that they are completely broken it makes those people and any organization they belong to look extremely foolish to all but the ignorant.

Speaking of ignorance, how would you know anything about the difficulty of said islands? Maybe you should just shut up, sit there, and let us do what we do...kill things.

By the way, how easy was island 5 today? Care to tell us how your raid did there?

quido
08-22-2010, 05:42 AM
Stanley was not the first Shaman with a full set of Rune-Etched. He still doesn't have the full set. I'm pretty sure someone from IB (Pyrocat or Helnam or Stumbles) had the first full set.

Atennu
08-22-2010, 06:58 AM
You do realise that back in 1999 when people were using dial up players crashed often. How many people would REALLY want to raid, if they had to make corpses to be drug up to each island with a 5 minute zone time EVERYTIME. Plus, it being 11 years later you act like its impossible for everquest players to come up with new strats at taking down a mob.

Until you assholes can down the spiroc lord; why don't you shut the fuck up already.

Much respect for farming Keeper of souls 12 spawns a day tho. I hope Durison buys a new car; Nizzar can afford rent, and you Hasbin can finally get a prostitute. I heard they dont take 5 gallon glass jars of coins anymore.

Hasbinbad
08-22-2010, 12:11 PM
Sluuuurp, gag, gag, slurp.
Uuuunnnhhhh, oh yeah, oooh suck it, oooh yeeeah, mmmmm Shaaaaggy. Ohhh, this is why they call you Too Dope, ain't it? Ooohh fuck yeeeaaaah. Oooooh take it out, take it out.. Ok, now give something to to Jay.

Lick, lick, lick. Sluuurp, gag, slurp.
Oooooh Violent Jaaaaaay. Wait, don't bite it! Don't violent with it now, just suck it! Niiiice and sloooow, yeaaaah. Oooooh fuuuck yeaaah! You got it, oooooh. Now give it back to Shaggy, he was sucking it better.
Sluuuurp, gag, gag, slurp.

Beau
08-22-2010, 02:20 PM
I was referring to you implying that bees etc are harder than they were on live, but after re-reading, i see that you're probably using very vague language to indicate the spiroc lord only. After fighting them, I can tell you that all Spirocs other than lord are broken (what a let down - island 3 trash is harder), 6 and 7 are definitely broken as they should not be anything close to killable with a classic raid force. Anyone who has raided sky back then would be able to affirm that. I don't begrude that you are progressing as long as you are in good faith reporting how easy 5, 6, and 7 are. Coming to these forums to gloat about it, however, especially the way some IB are, would be in poor taste even if they were close to the same difficulty of classic. Given that they are completely broken it makes those people and any organization they belong to look extremely foolish to all but the ignorant.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Island 4 is indeed entirely too easy. And you seem to be taking advantage of that just fine so shut the fuck up with your good faith stuff.

5, 6, 7... Well I would say you have Absolutely zero ground to stand on being as you haven't been there yet. And reading who your classic characters were, I am quite certain you have no experience in "classic Sky" so why don't you keep your mouth shut and leave things to people that know what they are talking about. You were a nobody on Torvo (server that came out months after sky) and you are a nobody here. Keep your opinions to yourself.

Viscious

Nizzarr
08-22-2010, 04:00 PM
Until you assholes can down the spiroc lord; why don't you shut the fuck up already.


BEE ARR BEE, MAKING MAGICIANS

Hasbinbad
08-22-2010, 04:06 PM
Keep your opinions to yourself.
I'd rather not thx. :)

BTW, you're a somebody, and I'm totally jealous of you.

Keep gratzing yourself on your legit kills brew. Much respect.

girth
08-22-2010, 06:44 PM
It won't even let me quote you Hasbeen. Got nothing to say except some dick sucking noises? How old are you?

Viscious, who was he on Torv? I mean if he's from Torv, he should have learned to troll better from Mariela.

Otto
08-22-2010, 10:20 PM
First PoS 41% Haste Belt: ..?


Guess we can fill in Slipshank for that one.

Atennu
08-22-2010, 11:15 PM
First PoS 41% Haste Belt: ..?


Guess we can fill in Slipshank for that one.


Thanks Otto!

Otto
08-23-2010, 01:36 AM
Thanks Otto!

Beat me fair and square. /loathe

Hasbinbad
08-23-2010, 01:51 AM
First PoS 41% Haste Belt: ..?


Guess we can fill in Slipshank for that one.
sweet!
gratz slipshank!

Hasbinbad
08-23-2010, 01:53 AM
Updated.

Hasbinbad
08-23-2010, 02:15 AM
It won't even let me quote you Hasbeen. Got nothing to say except some dick sucking noises? How old are you?

Viscious, who was he on Torv? I mean if he's from Torv, he should have learned to troll better from Mariela.
I've already talked to you about this, noob. I was Vennjinze (53 rog, ebayed pre-velious) and Ishka (63 enc, retired). I was in Fist of Iron for most of my career on my rogue, House Archon, Blood of the Phoenix in their second incarnation, and Gift of Thought for a week or two before i retired, in their second incarnation. Gave the enchanter to my brother when I quit around PoP, he continued to use Ishka as an alt for about a year after that.

I really don't give a shit what you think of my career or my fame on Torvo. I raided all content through velious on one or the other of my characters, and quite a bit of the luclin content. I was equipped epic and nearly best in slot on both characters, and had plenty of friends and enemies.

..and as far as who I learned to troll from, my first sensei was Ninjalooter, who called out more bullshit on that server than anyone else during the first era of Torvo.

In any case, if you want to call me out and talk shit to me personally, I invite you to visit the following URL, wherein you are cordially invited to do your worst. Also, kiss my ass.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=122675#post122675

girth
08-23-2010, 02:20 AM
I've already talked to you about this, noob. I was Vennjinze (53 rog, ebayed pre-velious) and Ishka (63 enc, retired). I was in Fist of Iron for most of my career on my rogue, House Archon, Blood of the Phoenix in their second incarnation, and Gift of Thought for a week or two before i retired, in their second incarnation. Gave the enchanter to my brother when I quit around PoP, he continued to use Ishka as an alt for about a year after that.

I really don't give a shit what you think of my career or my fame on Torvo. I raided all content through velious on one or the other of my characters, and quite a bit of the luclin content. I was equipped epic and nearly best in slot on both characters, and had plenty of friends and enemies.

..and as far as who I learned to troll from, my first sensei was Ninjalooter, who called out more bullshit on that server than anyone else during the first era of Torvo.

In any case, if you want to call me out and talk shit to me personally, I invite you to visit the following URL, wherein you are cordially invited to do your worst. Also, kiss my ass.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=122675#post122675

You know ninjalooter was mariela right? Or maybe you didn't because you're full of shit.

Hasbinbad
08-23-2010, 02:57 AM
You know ninjalooter was mariela right? Or maybe you didn't because you're full of shit.
Gee.. I wonder..

Storklen
08-23-2010, 03:07 AM
Im just saying its pretty funny we get called whiney bitches for reporting spiroc lord being too hard, then when a mob is bugged to be a bit easier then all the sudden everyone is all up in arms.

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Daishelo/Starklen.jpg

girth
08-23-2010, 03:10 AM
I mean if he's from Torv, he should have learned to troll better from Mariela.

..and as far as who I learned to troll from, my first sensei was Ninjalooter, who called out more bullshit on that server than anyone else during the first era of Torvo.

You sure didn't act like you knew...

your knowledge of torv is not legit, no respect brew

Storklen
08-23-2010, 03:10 AM
no one but you and your harem of misfits thinks we look stupid

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Daishelo/Starklen.jpg

Hasbinbad
08-23-2010, 03:12 AM
You sure didn't act like you knew...

your knowledge of torv is not legit, no respect brew
much respect bro

guineapig
08-23-2010, 07:29 AM
So basically, what I'm hearing is that the upper Islands in Sky are trivial in a similar fashion to the way the original CT, INNY, Naggy and Vox encounters were on the server.
Bummer...

girth
08-23-2010, 07:40 AM
So basically, what I'm hearing is that the upper Islands in Sky are trivial in a similar fashion to the way the original CT, INNY, Naggy and Vox encounters were on the server.
Bummer...

You heard wrong...just ask DA. ;)

guineapig
08-23-2010, 07:52 AM
You heard wrong...just ask DA. ;)

It is indeed possible that I did hear wrong.

I just assumed since you guys finished Renard's Belt of Quickness that something must be wrong with the plane. Pretty sure you need to be able to kill Bizazzt in order to finish that quest, and finishing island #6 should not be doable before the level cap increase. It was specifically designed NOT TO BE.

Hasbinbad
08-23-2010, 08:41 AM
finishing island #6 should not be doable before the level cap increase.

Bagzan
08-23-2010, 12:16 PM
It is indeed possible that I did hear wrong.

I just assumed since you guys finished Renard's Belt of Quickness that something must be wrong with the plane. Pretty sure you need to be able to kill Bizazzt in order to finish that quest, and finishing island #6 should not be doable before the level cap increase. It was specifically designed NOT TO BE.

That's a bad example. Just because something was designed to not be killable doesn't mean it's not. Kerafym wasn't ever supposed to be killed yet he was, essentially twice for that matter. The original Rathe Council wasn't supposed to be killed and if FoH (I think it was FoH, might have been a different guild I can't particularly remember) had another day or two at it, it would have been.

guineapig
08-23-2010, 12:23 PM
That's a bad example. Just because something was designed to not be killable doesn't mean it's not. Kerafym wasn't ever supposed to be killed yet he was, essentially twice for that matter. The original Rathe Council wasn't supposed to be killed and if FoH (I think it was FoH, might have been a different guild I can't particularly remember) had another day or two at it, it would have been.

To be fair, let's consider that back in 1999 I'm guessing there were at least one or two hardcore guilds on each server doing their best to try and conquer this zone. They had three entire months before Kunark to try and get this accomplished and during those three months, of all those guilds on all those servers, only one managed to get to Island 7. How long did it take you guys?
And this isn't about knowing strategies, that they might not have known about. This is about straight numbers.

I think it's a very good example of content not being on par with how it was on classic.

Molitoth
08-23-2010, 12:26 PM
To be fair, let's consider that back in 1999 I'm guessing there were at least one or two hardcore guilds on each server doing their best to try and conquer this zone. They had three entire months before Kunark to try and get this accomplished and during those three months, of all those guilds on all those servers, only one managed to get to Island 7. How long did it take you guys?
And this isn't about knowing strategies, that they might not have known about. This is about straight numbers.

I think it's a very good example of content not being on par with how it was on classic.


The strats and encounters are already known, this cuts down on a LOT of "ok how the fuck is this fight going to go" time. The encounters on this server SHOULD be done a shitload faster than original live EQ.

Bagzan
08-23-2010, 01:42 PM
To be fair, let's consider that back in 1999 I'm guessing there were at least one or two hardcore guilds on each server doing their best to try and conquer this zone. They had three entire months before Kunark to try and get this accomplished and during those three months, of all those guilds on all those servers, only one managed to get to Island 7. How long did it take you guys?
And this isn't about knowing strategies, that they might not have known about. This is about straight numbers.

I think it's a very good example of content not being on par with how it was on classic.

What Molitoth said. With the strategies being known as opposed to attempting to figure out one thing at a time per pull - keep in mind wipes take a long fucking time to recover from in original EQ and there are TONS of random non-obvious/intuitive things that happen in Sky that could (and do) lead to wipes - it takes a huge chunk out of the time needed to figure out an encounter. Also, after 11 years people have a much better grasp of what individual characters are capable of as well as access to things such as voice chat.

Those facts aside, the fact of the matter is that the only thing bugged to make anything easier is one mob on island 6 and whether you want to believe it or not, that bug really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things and even if it was working entirely as intended, it would still be dead right now given how the server currently works. Aside from bee island every other boss past 4 (spiroc lord, sister, eye) is bugged to be considerably harder than it was on live yet all these chucklefucks sit there and go "IB's farming bugged encounters :cool:" when the only farming of any mob that's been done has been from an encounter that's actually significantly harder than it was on Live.

guineapig
08-23-2010, 01:44 PM
Kerafym wasn't ever supposed to be killed yet he was, essentially twice for that matter. You realize that he wasn't killed till November of 2003, right?


The strats and encounters are already known, this cuts down on a LOT of "ok how the fuck is this fight going to go" time. The encounters on this server SHOULD be done a shitload faster than original live EQ.


And this isn't about knowing strategies, that they might not have known about. This is about straight numbers.


It's about being able to do enough DPS to a mob so many levels higher than you (ie, melee hitting mobs for 10's . It's about the fact that most spells should be resisted by the mobs. It's about the mobs being able to kill players in 4 swipes and pets in 2. What strategy could your guild have possibly come up with that 30+ other guilds didn't.

If you honestly think that Sky should be finish-able before Kunark due to your "superior skill" then I don't know what to tell you.

I wish I could find the post where a dev even pointed out exactly how insanely hard the last couple islands are supposed to be but it's possible that it was in the rants section so I can't do a proper search for it. In any case they basically said, don't expect to be able to kill everything.

Bagzan
08-23-2010, 01:56 PM
You realize that he wasn't killed till November of 2003, right?


I actually thought it was later than that. Regardless of when it happened, you're missing the point, he was never supposed to be killable regardless of the timeline of when he died. Yet nonetheless, he died. Rathe wasn't supposed to be killable and it was changed maybe 1 or 2 days before it would have died in its "unkillable" form.



It's about being able to do enough DPS to a mob so many levels higher than you (ie, melee hitting mobs for 10's . It's about the fact that most spells should be resisted by the mobs. It's about the mobs being able to kill players in 4 swipes and pets in 2. What strategy could your guild have possibly come up with that 30+ other guilds didn't.

If you honestly think that Sky should be finish-able before Kunark due to your "superior skill" then I don't know what to tell you.

I wish I could find the post where a dev even pointed out exactly how insanely hard the last couple islands are supposed to be but it's possible that it was in the rants section so I can't do a proper search for it.

There are a lot of strategies and knowledge that came about long after Sky was released (hell even after Kunark) that you can apply back to original EQ and make content there doable when it previously wasn't.

Gwence
08-23-2010, 02:34 PM
Once again chicanery putting in his 2 cents for some extra attention. Basically he has no idea what hes talking about but absolutely must feel noticed.

We're not going to tell you about the bosses in sky chicanery, why dont you focus on what Divinity is doing instead of always trying to involve yourself in other people's business. You try to be all passive in your troll attempts but its not fooling anyone, you're absolutely the worst troll on these forums. I'd prefer random anontards to watching you post your idiotic commentary to the world.

Beau
08-23-2010, 02:46 PM
You realize that he wasn't killed till November of 2003, right?


Lol

Beau
08-23-2010, 02:49 PM
Why are you guys arguing about kerafyrm?

guineapig
08-23-2010, 02:49 PM
There are a lot of strategies and knowledge that came about long after Sky was released (hell even after Kunark) that you can apply back to original EQ and make content there doable when it previously wasn't.


You are correct. After is the key word here.

There was a lot of content designed to be only doable after future releases to the game. You can see it regularly throughout EQ history. Added levels, added AA's, added spells, disciplines and skills and of course gear. Much of this content was doable after the fact, not within a week of its release.

Your examples do not prove that content should be easier now based on strategies.

guineapig
08-23-2010, 02:50 PM
Once again chicanery putting in his 2 cents for some extra attention. Basically he has no idea what hes talking about but absolutely must feel noticed.

We're not going to tell you about the bosses in sky chicanery, why dont you focus on what Divinity is doing instead of always trying to involve yourself in other people's business. You try to be all passive in your troll attempts but its not fooling anyone, you're absolutely the worst troll on these forums. I'd prefer random anontards to watching you post your idiotic commentary to the world.

Adults are conversing Gwence.
Go to R&F.

Or feel free to add something to the conversation. But you are, by definition, being a troll at this point.

Kizzik
08-23-2010, 02:51 PM
First cleric to max H2H? :cool:

Chicka
08-23-2010, 03:03 PM
It's about being able to do enough DPS to a mob so many levels higher than you (ie, melee hitting mobs for 10's . It's about the fact that most spells should be resisted by the mobs. It's about the mobs being able to kill players in 4 swipes and pets in 2.

Sounds about right, then we killed it.


What strategy could your guild have possibly come up with that 30+ other guilds didn't.

The winning one?


If you honestly think that Sky should be finish-able before Kunark due to your "superior skill" then I don't know what to tell you..

You seriously underestimate the benefit of hindsight - including all strats used on all mobs throughout EQ history. Shit, I don't think anyone even did a CH chain in classic - it took time to come up with that stuff.

Bagzan
08-23-2010, 03:04 PM
You are correct. After is the key word here.

There was a lot of content designed to be only doable after future releases to the game. You can see it regularly throughout EQ history. Added levels, added AA's, added spells, disciplines and skills and of course gear. Much of this content was doable after the fact, not within a week of its release.

Your examples do not prove that content should be easier now based on strategies.

Strats, knowledge, and information don't go away/not get used just because the emu server hasn't reached the point in the game they were "discovered" on live. I still remember the vague spawn layout of Velks spiders from all the time I spent there, just because it hasn't been released on this server yet doesn't mean the knowledge can't be present. I never said anything about added levels, AA's, discs, spells, or gear because they aren't necessary in this case.

I've intentionally left out exact strats and while I could post specific examples as to what knowledge/strats/information "discovered" post-Sky that can be applied to pre-Sky (or in Sky in this case I suppose) and has made previously "impossible" bosses possible but I'm not going to because that's most of what makes EQ raiding fun - using your brain to solve a problem as opposed to just reading a guide that tells you the exact steps to take a mob from 100% to dead like was available for every single mob in WoW.

Gwence
08-23-2010, 03:20 PM
Im not going to add something when you're involved in the conversation because you're a retard and all you want is for us to detail out our strategies so you can attempt to critique them or something. You dont know enough about this game to critique anything, probably dont even know enough about your own class to critique that.

Notice how you are the only Non IB/DA person that has gotten involved in sky disputes/discussions. Hell, even WI people arent getting involved and they have at least been up in the zone.

So once again I'll say, worry about your own business please. No one cares about your "re-cap" postings like you're some 8 year old having to say out loud "let me get this straight" every 10 seconds.

guineapig
08-23-2010, 03:34 PM
Im not going to add something when you're involved in the conversation because you're a retard and all you want is for us to detail out our strategies so you can attempt to critique them or something.

You keep claiming that I am attempting to get strategies from you when it's simply not the case. I have full access to dozens of different strategies from all over the web for every single Everquest encounter there is. As I have pointed out to you before, none of this stuff is a big secret!

A few of you keep getting so damn defensive but I'm not accusing you of anything either. I'm merely questioning if things are tuned the way they should be on those last few islands. Unless you are the ones designing the content (which you aren't), there is nothing to get defensive about.

I have yet to hear a simple answer like "this is the way I recall it on live" or "yeah maybe it is a little easier than it's supposed to be". Instead the answer is always we have "leet strategies".

But seriously... strategies on how to split and kill the bees? This isn't rocket science.

I'm asking legitimate questions about the difficulty of these encounters.
Remember The first Vox, Naggy, Inny and CT kills on this server? Remember how much was changed between then and now? Leet strategies about block AoE outdoors? Turned out not to be classic. Was that IB or Trans' fault? Of course not. But things had to be pointed out before they got fixed.

This is how things get fixed.


EDIT: I guess if everything is set at the right difficulty then we can expect to not to see any changes to the encounters in Sky as far as making them more difficult in the coming months.

yaaaflow
08-23-2010, 03:51 PM
Sleeper argument aside, the avatar of war was also not expected by the devs to be killed during velious era - they expected it to stay unkilled until luclin/pop. It died during velious anyway. Likewise at least one guild during classic was able to complete sky, and with the superior equipment/tactics that IB has (vs guilds in classic era), combined with the proper combo of classes are you really that shocked that they are completing content with, omg, 32k hp mobs?

Also


Remember The first Vox, Naggy, Inny and CT kills on this server?


Yeah I remember a couple of those, how many do you remember? :D

Gwence
08-23-2010, 03:51 PM
Its easier to get a point across to hasbin than it is with your dense head, and that's saying something.

Is sky working like it was in 1999-2000 or whenever? Maybe someone can give you a simple yes or no answer, it cant be me I dont remember sky that well from live, was a long time ago. The problem is as soon as someone answers you're gonna ask How or Why and that's where the problem comes in.

You got no business asking us How or Why, and if you had any self respect you would not even bother asking them.

guineapig
08-23-2010, 04:00 PM
Likewise at least one guild during classic was able to complete sky,


Incorrect. Sky was never cleared by anyone before Kunark.

Pheer
08-23-2010, 04:08 PM
Incorrect. Sky was never cleared by anyone before Kunark.

I love how in these threads everyone gives their version of live history like its complete fact without providing any kind of reference or evidence to support their claims.

Skope
08-23-2010, 04:11 PM
Gwence, you're being a bit thick-headed and pessimistic here. His intent isn't to try to cast a shadow of doubt over IB's success in sky, it's a matter of stating facts (from resources that I've seen myself) on just what the difficulty of these islands were. I was one of the few selected for the posky test run here and had quite a bit of fun, but also saw quite a bit that was off. We only managed to get to the spiroc isle (minus spiroc lord) so we didn't get to see much of the stuff that was, at the time, considered to be unbeatable. Considering the encounters with the big 4 prior to sky and the issues that were seen with them (all of them, really) it wouldn't exactly be jumping the gun to assume that some of the encounters in posky are off.

To put it simply, he's just searching for a bit of clarification. Do i personally think that IB would still be rocking it up there? Absolutely, that's not the matter of discussion here, it's the actual accuracy of the content itself. We don't want leet strategies, these things have been discussed and researched for years.

Gwence
08-23-2010, 04:31 PM
If their's a direct question about sky you want answered, ask it. If we can answer it without giving info on mobs or info on strats we will.

Starklen
08-23-2010, 05:46 PM
A few of you keep getting so damn defensive but I'm not accusing you of anything either. I'm merely questioning if things are tuned the way they should be on those last few islands. Unless you are the ones designing the content (which you aren't), there is nothing to get defensive about.

I have yet to hear a simple answer like "this is the way I recall it on live" or "yeah maybe it is a little easier than it's supposed to be". Instead the answer is always we have "leet strategies".

But seriously... strategies on how to split and kill the bees? This isn't rocket science.



There are things that are work properly and don't work properly in the zone. That's about the most specific answer you'll get.

Starklen
08-23-2010, 05:53 PM
I wish I could find the post where a dev even pointed out exactly how insanely hard the last couple islands are supposed to be but it's possible that it was in the rants section so I can't do a proper search for it. In any case they basically said, don't expect to be able to kill everything.

They are insanely hard.

Hasbinbad
08-23-2010, 07:48 PM
They are insanely hard.
Much respect.

Pheer
08-24-2010, 12:13 AM
my penis is insanely hard

G13
08-24-2010, 07:51 AM
The fact of the matter is, a lot of mechanics on this EMU server are not the same as they were on live.

And no, the upper island encounters are not working properly.

dianamel
08-24-2010, 11:48 PM
whitened treant fists server first goes to vittra!

Hasbinbad
08-25-2010, 10:56 PM
updated

Taluvill
08-27-2010, 01:27 AM
I wish I could find the post where a dev even pointed out exactly how insanely hard the last couple islands are supposed to be but it's possible that it was in the rants section so I can't do a proper search for it. In any case they basically said, don't expect to be able to kill everything.

It was Aeolwind. He did say it was soon, he listed the fixes, and he said no guild will be killing those mobs until kunark.

20k tanks make a difference. Easy to ch chain tbh. It's a legit strat though. Nothing against using current mechanics to complete challenging obstacles.

Starklen
08-27-2010, 06:44 PM
We didn't use thunder spirits to kill the prenerf spiroc lord.

Same goes for the first bee and sister of the spire.

Sinlea
08-27-2010, 09:59 PM
First Ton Po's Eyepatch I think too!

Stonewall
08-28-2010, 05:03 AM
Incorrect. Sky was never cleared by anyone before Kunark.

8th island was cleared by Coterie Notctrine (cant remember the exact spelling but that is close enough) prior to Kunark coming out on the Cazic-Thule server.

I remember this because I played on CT.

My statement is not biased towards any guild here on P99.

Aadill
08-29-2010, 11:27 PM
First same-sex no homo bro-marriage between Bazek and Barthorn of Dark Ascension.

Taluvill
08-29-2010, 11:42 PM
First same-sex no homo bro-marriage between Bazek and Barthorn of Dark Ascension.

They would.

Need Jeremy for the first Threesome marriage and its legit.

Xentin
08-30-2010, 06:47 AM
whitened treant fists server first goes to vittra!

sigh if trash loot gets listed I want my soul leech listed to make more SKs cry

Vonyor
08-31-2010, 01:37 AM
ROFL!!

The only thing that was wrong with Mayong was the same line of sight aoe bug that was effecting every single raid mob on the server from beta until after Hate opened. The Mayong kill was just as legit as every boss death before him.

Taluvill
08-31-2010, 01:54 AM
sigh if trash loot gets listed I want my soul leech listed to make more SKs cry

Pretty positive Umor had the very first Soul Leach on the server when Trans gave it to him during the rotation period, no?

Taluvill
08-31-2010, 01:57 AM
First full Rune Etched: Stanley


Stanley didn't have the first full rune etched. I think a few people have mentioned that. Didnt Bossco or Pyrocat have their sets before him?

Otto
08-31-2010, 08:02 AM
ROFL!!

The only thing that was wrong with Mayong was the same line of sight aoe bug that was effecting every single raid mob on the server from beta until after Hate opened. The Mayong kill was just as legit as every boss death before him.

Actually he wasn't doing 3 or 4 of his abilities.

Didn't summon mobs, Didn't AE lifetap, didn't AE 900 dmg DD and 15 second stun, Didn't charm players and shout 'Now show us where your true loyalty lies'.

There was probably another one, it's just been 9-10 months since the downings of Mayong.

Otto
08-31-2010, 08:03 AM
And no, Xentin got the first Soul Leech. There were no 50 SKs raiding at the time when IB downed CT first, so Xentin got it.

guineapig
08-31-2010, 09:38 AM
ROFL!!

The only thing that was wrong with Mayong was the same line of sight aoe bug that was effecting every single raid mob on the server from beta until after Hate opened. The Mayong kill was just as legit as every boss death before him.

None of the bosses worked properly the first time they were killed. The threads are all still here on the forums...

Aedin
09-02-2010, 01:32 AM
First Theurgist's Star Aedin.

...Raren
09-02-2010, 12:10 PM
You guys really think Hasbinbad is going to keep up with this thread now ? He is probably hanging by a tree right now because he has been booted out of 3 guilds

Hasbinbad
09-03-2010, 11:29 PM
Stanley didn't have the first full rune etched. I think a few people have mentioned that. Didnt Bossco or Pyrocat have their sets before him?
Going to remove Stanley as many people have replied that he doesn't even have full RE now.. Need someone else to claim 1st full.

Hasbinbad
09-03-2010, 11:32 PM
..also, what do people think of leaving Olympia up as first belt of contention as it was the first sky trash haste belt ever looted and foregoing listing all of them?

Starklen
09-04-2010, 12:14 AM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=844

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3590

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6992

First on all of these. Don't know if they count so it's up to whoever.

Hasbinbad
09-04-2010, 08:25 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=844

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3590

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6992

First on all of these. Don't know if they count so it's up to whoever.
I said I wasn't going to list the "test of" except the haste items.. too many, would need an entire section.. If you go back and read, I was against having a haste item section in the first place.. If any specific "test of" is exceptionally notable or hard to get i'd consider it..

Starklen
09-04-2010, 11:18 PM
None of those items are particularly good but I would classify the gorgon head staff as being exceptionally hard to get. Gorgalosk, bees, isle 7 trash, and an efreeti weapon to build it. Up to you.

Hasbinbad
09-04-2010, 11:37 PM
None of those items are particularly good but I would classify the gorgon head staff as being exceptionally hard to get. Gorgalosk, bees, isle 7 trash, and an efreeti weapon to build it. Up to you.
If there is some support posted i will.

Ponden
09-04-2010, 11:40 PM
I support Starklen's message.

Beau
09-06-2010, 03:21 PM
Why not just do like a first in class to finish all Class quests? Or something to that extent. You know kinda like the first full armor set etc...

That way the list is way shorter, but it's still noting a significant milestone should it ever happen.

Starklen
09-06-2010, 03:39 PM
^ that sounds good too.

Alawen Everywhere
09-06-2010, 04:00 PM
I was never in Sky on live before Kunark, but Sky is way easier than I expected. The pre-nerf Spiroc Lord took us less than 48 hours to beat, maybe a dozen attempts. You want the strategy? Log in a shitload of clerics and magicians with overpowered pets.

I'm sure no one thought of such advanced strategies ten years ago.

The bosses aren't mitigating enough damage in either melee or magic. If everyone didn't already know this, magician pets are not accurate to classic. They're massively overpowered. These fights should be much, much harder.

I wiped more fighting them at 60.

Hasbinbad
09-06-2010, 04:31 PM
I was never in Sky on live before Kunark, but Sky is way easier than I expected. The pre-nerf Spiroc Lord took us less than 48 hours to beat, maybe a dozen attempts. You want the strategy? Log in a shitload of clerics and magicians with overpowered pets.

I'm sure no one thought of such advanced strategies ten years ago.

The bosses aren't mitigating enough damage in either melee or magic. If everyone didn't already know this, magician pets are not accurate to classic. They're massively overpowered. These fights should be much, much harder.

I wiped more fighting them at 60.
This was the experience of pretty much everyone but a certain few people who either didn't raid sky on live or are so wrapped up in defending image that they will not admit the truth.

guineapig
09-06-2010, 06:32 PM
That's what I have been saying all along. I'm glad somebody has the guts to admit it.

Starklen
09-06-2010, 07:27 PM
I was never in Sky on live before Kunark, but Sky is way easier than I expected. The pre-nerf Spiroc Lord took us less than 48 hours to beat, maybe a dozen attempts. You want the strategy? Log in a shitload of clerics and magicians with overpowered pets.

I'm sure no one thought of such advanced strategies ten years ago.

The bosses aren't mitigating enough damage in either melee or magic. If everyone didn't already know this, magician pets are not accurate to classic. They're massively overpowered. These fights should be much, much harder.

I wiped more fighting them at 60.

I strongly disagree with some of what you've said. Class flexibility and the fact that people can log on different characters was not something you could do en masse 10 years ago because it costed money and was a violation of the terms of service. Without getting into specifics, the point about boss mitigation of spells and melee from players isn't true either. I'm hoping another guild gets far enough to corroborate that statement but time will tell.

(mitigation with respect to players, I have no idea on pets since I never played a pet caster on live)

Pyrocat
09-12-2010, 02:02 AM
I'd probably say Helnam or Fugly then, for the first full set of Rune Etched.

Hasbinbad
09-12-2010, 05:30 AM
I'd probably say Helnam or Fugly then, for the first full set of Rune Etched.
I don't remember Helnam or Fugly ever having full RE.. Dudes were hella stingy back in the day..
get more people to verify, or 1st hand accounts after so long pretty much.. or screenshots..

Taluvill
09-12-2010, 08:36 PM
I just know that no one in trans was first. We were probably faster to complete most of the set than IB, but we got shit drops for jeremy's sleeves and stanleys legs.

Alawen Everywhere
09-13-2010, 12:28 AM
I'm pretty sure it was Wololo. He quit not long afterwards.

Cykubis
09-18-2010, 01:43 PM
I really wasn't joking when I said I was the first person with a Robe of the Kedge. I want to be on the list!

Barthorn
10-03-2010, 02:42 AM
Server first http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=993. Paladin 41% haste belt.

iamjack
10-09-2010, 03:52 AM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=1772
Sandals of Alacrity
Taichi

beiff
10-25-2010, 11:18 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=956
Belt of the four winds
Skankie

Heebee
10-27-2010, 03:40 AM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2030
Golden Efreeti Chestplate
Baubarian

girth
10-27-2010, 03:43 AM
We doing golden efreeti?

meh...if so, I had the first vambraces.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2427

also, that bp looks sweet heebee

Heebee
10-27-2010, 04:59 AM
We doing golden efreeti?

meh...if so, I had the first vambraces.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2427

also, that bp looks sweet heebee

Yeah Bananabarian is definitely the most stylish Shaman on the server - he's definitely loving it. I figured I'd post it up as he's had it for a little while and I thought since he hadn't posted it himself it was worth sharing, if for no other reason that this pic! :)

http://www.darkascensionguild.com/forums/download/file.php?id=45

Aadill
10-28-2010, 12:38 PM
It's just so... so.. obscene!

Trimm
11-14-2010, 11:58 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=981

First Pegasus-Hide Belt.. Kelven

Taluvill
11-18-2010, 06:00 AM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=981

First Pegasus-Hide Belt.. Kelven

Grats Kelven!!

Im really happy to see he got it = )

warrioman
11-19-2010, 12:33 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/9/20/1ca03a12-3579-4572-b684-ee84536cfde3.jpg

Ravhin
11-19-2010, 03:34 PM
As the perfect place to require community consensus over "firsts", I've updated this page on the wiki:

http://moestaverne.com/p1999wiki/index.php/Server_Firsts

Should be the easiest way to keep it up to date. I hadn't read all this recent debate over sky items and whether every item should be listed. As you (we) like.

Hasbinbad
11-22-2010, 06:13 PM
Theres been enough time with sky open that people should know pretty much all the firsts.. I don't have a lot of time recently, but if someone who does wants to compile the posts into a reply containing the firsts, I will update the page.

vitalious
12-19-2010, 10:44 PM
This is sad.

1) free speech is not entirely free. There are limitations put on free speech where if your free speech infringes upon others rights, your speech is no longer free, but a crime.

2) This game is 12 years old almost and the people who play this are mostly 21+. Grow up and act like adults. It's a shame you have nothing better to do than contrive some plan to teach these bad mods and devs a lesson about unfairly targeting you and banning you. Well, from this response, it seems the devs did something right in the first place. You're not mature enough to even handle this 11 year old game. Why don't you do something constructive for society like get a job? If you have a job, why don't you volunteer somewhere and give someone your time. Maybe seeing how unfortunate others are, will put this game into perspective for you. At this moment, you are acting like a whiny, immature, prepubescent prick,

In the end "get fucked" comes to mind. Ill enjoy doing something else until you decide to

[X] get a life
[X] Go outside
[X] grow up
[X] get banned from life

Kamasu-WV
12-19-2010, 11:26 PM
I think you put this in the wrong thread...

Heebee
01-03-2011, 02:31 AM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=1349
Golden Efreeti Greaves
Heebee

Heebee
01-03-2011, 02:32 AM
First full set of Wind Etched Armor of Ro (Helm, Boots, 2x Bracers, Gauntlets) - Heebee

Hasbinbad
01-03-2011, 04:46 AM
updated

Muerte
01-04-2011, 03:55 AM
I am the first level 50 ERUDITE necromancer with red spots on my face.

Ok omit the spots, 1st 50 erudite necro.

Hasbinbad
01-04-2011, 02:46 PM
I've recieved requests to get the sky belts in order.. are they all obtained yet? Does someone wanna list them and who has which ones and which ones are still not obtained? I dont have a bunch of time lately to ask hella people hella questions, and i dont wanna start putting items up willy nilly. Sky belts are covered under haste items, but the rest of the sky quests haven't really had a major backing to post, so i'm not going to for now, besides there are so many, it would really need it's own section or some such.. ..buuuut if anyone wants to help parse this post for belt quests, i will update.

Aadill
01-04-2011, 07:09 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=153296&postcount=408

Barthorn-50 Paladin Dark Ascension



http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=164249&postcount=410

Skankie- Warrior Dark Ascension


http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=174023&postcount=415

Kelven- Shadowknight Divinity




Slipshank- Rogue Inglorious Basterds

Lostprophets
01-11-2011, 09:32 AM
who was the first to take a toon 1-50 in minimal time (without power leveling, and straight grouping? with a time.) I'm sure it took a great while to obtain the firsts in general but based on time who was quickest? I'd like to know this.

My Half-Elf Warrior took less than a week I made him right before the DDoS attack that shut the server down for 2 weeks, excluding that little break it took approximately 4-5 days of straight on the clock grinding. Edit: I remember this cause I bought a full visible set of rubicite from andain the day i started leveling him...my first big purchase, lol

Hasbinbad
01-13-2011, 10:00 PM
Is that it Pickles? Also wtf are the belts called? :P

Aadill
01-13-2011, 10:05 PM
Fixed. Didn't Otto or someone in IB get the rogue belt?

Rhambuk
01-13-2011, 10:09 PM
Yeah Bananabarian is definitely the most stylish Shaman on the server

Lloyd is pretty stylin these days with his ronald mcdonald outfit

Atennu
01-13-2011, 11:28 PM
Fixed. Didn't Otto or someone in IB get the rogue belt?

Slipshank then Otto

Pycoba_rng
01-14-2011, 08:09 AM
If their's a direct question about sky you want answered, ask it. If we can answer it without giving info on mobs or info on strats we will.

I'm sorry after reading this I almost fell down laughing. Not trying to be rude , but strats on a 12 year old game??? What strats do you feel you have that no one else had? I'd love to compare unfamilar strats that wern't published via online raid guides etc. I bet I'd blow your mind away ,but unless your thinking entirely outside the box , which maybe you are? I really think you should discuss skys difficulty in simple terms. Have you guys parsed any fights up ther? I for one would love to see logs.

~ Thanks
~Pycoba

Hasbinbad
01-17-2011, 10:10 PM
Updated.

Hasbinbad
01-17-2011, 10:13 PM
I would like to add a GM-Event ONLY item list, need some help figuring out who got what, when.

I know for sure I had the first Rubicite Pauldron, and I know the other pieces exist, but I don't know who has what. Also there are several GM-Event ONLY items on the server, but I don't know what they are or who got them. Please post if you have information.

zt004
01-17-2011, 10:24 PM
Lloyd is pretty stylin these days with his ronald mcdonald outfit

Mardur
01-17-2011, 10:42 PM
I would like to add a GM-Event ONLY item list, need some help figuring out who got what, when.

I know for sure I had the first Rubicite Pauldron, and I know the other pieces exist, but I don't know who has what. Also there are several GM-Event ONLY items on the server, but I don't know what they are or who got them. Please post if you have information.

Zithax got the monk tunic thing, can't think of the name atm. Had a bunch of resists.

Heebee
01-23-2011, 06:20 PM
First to kill "Overseer of Air" - Dark Ascension

Durison
01-23-2011, 07:07 PM
with 47 people - such a zerg of skill

Tippett
01-23-2011, 07:15 PM
post the drops :p

Trystych
01-24-2011, 03:28 AM
I notice first to kill Bazzt Zzzz and Sister of the Spire are absent, IB first to kill bee 1.0 and IB/DW 2.0, sister remains unchanged and killed again.

cameron2coolcarter
01-25-2011, 04:26 PM
DA server first?

Daliant17447
01-26-2011, 04:11 PM
I would like to add a GM-Event ONLY item list, need some help figuring out who got what, when.

I know for sure I had the first Rubicite Pauldron, and I know the other pieces exist, but I don't know who has what. Also there are several GM-Event ONLY items on the server, but I don't know what they are or who got them. Please post if you have information.

Sceptre of Ancient Knowledge (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6999) - Daliant

Hasbinbad
01-27-2011, 01:23 AM
updated

Ronas
01-27-2011, 04:59 AM
Wheres all the first sky haste belt thing? in the haste section?

mackenzie
01-28-2011, 02:56 AM
"First to kill Bazzt Zzzt: Inglourious Basterds
First to kill Sister of the Spire: Inglourious Basterds"

this is wrong? wasnt it joint effort between two guilds IB/darkwind?

Kruel
01-28-2011, 09:39 AM
"First to kill Bazzt Zzzt: Inglourious Basterds
First to kill Sister of the Spire: Inglourious Basterds"

this is wrong? wasnt it joint effort between two guilds IB/darkwind?

^^^this

Trystych
01-28-2011, 01:12 PM
Sister of the Spire as near as I can tell is the exact same mob.

Bee could be considered 2.0 IB/DW with the draco dot added. Or 3.0 if you want to count the incarnation of the entire bee island population spawning out of a single bee chain (not killed).

Ledzepp02
01-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Give Darkwind credit for jumping your numbers to even consider killing Bee/Sister please, because without them apparently you couldn't even take out Dojorn the other night. Just sayin...probably need to add Pantheon as well.

quido
01-28-2011, 03:14 PM
I would like to add a GM-Event ONLY item list, need some help figuring out who got what, when.

I know for sure I had the first Rubicite Pauldron, and I know the other pieces exist, but I don't know who has what. Also there are several GM-Event ONLY items on the server, but I don't know what they are or who got them. Please post if you have information.

Sewn Hide Shawl (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2697)

Hasbinbad
01-28-2011, 04:32 PM
Not making a 2.0, 3.0, etc. for every mob that gets adjusted..
IB killed bazzt zzzt and sister months ago, but I just never got around to updating it due to being busy and a lack of being bugged about it.

Starklen
01-31-2011, 03:45 PM
Give Darkwind credit for jumping your numbers to even consider killing Bee/Sister please, because without them apparently you couldn't even take out Dojorn the other night. Just sayin...probably need to add Pantheon as well.

Those bosses were killed last August.

Entrance
02-03-2011, 10:36 PM
Grats

Trystych
02-03-2011, 10:49 PM
Hand of Veeshan down to IB/DW.

girth
02-04-2011, 01:38 AM
Hand of Veeshan down to IB/DW.

Very nice. grats

Hagnis Shralok
02-04-2011, 08:52 PM
Hand of Veeshan down to IB/DW.

Hand of Veeshan down to Hagnis Shralok and Vopuk Shralok of [Shiny Brass Idols] Guild.

I am sick of you IB/DW fags taking credit for my divine aura cheesing server firsts!

mitic
02-04-2011, 09:27 PM
Hand of Veeshan down to Hagnis Shralok and Vopuk Shralok of [Shiny Brass Idols] Guild.

I am sick of you IB/DW fags taking credit for my divine aura cheesing server firsts!

my coke..all over my keyboard now...u gota pay me a new one Hagnis!

Jenni D
02-04-2011, 11:02 PM
first blonde wood elf female ranger to 50

edit: also follower of tunare

Loke
02-05-2011, 03:36 AM
If we're going to post ridiculous firsts, I think it is possible that I was the first wielder of a Javelin on this server since back in the day I had to bug report and have the recipe added/fixed. GIVE ME CREDIT HASBINBAD!

mitic
02-06-2011, 09:33 AM
first ranger wielding a spiroc wingblade!

Bagzan
02-07-2011, 03:24 PM
Finished Warhammer of the Wind yesterday. Pretty sure I'm the first shaman to get that.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=25029

Bossco
02-07-2011, 03:28 PM
grats bagzan =) beat me to it, but I've got server second

Jenni D
02-07-2011, 06:03 PM
first ranger wielding a spiroc wingblade!

i may have beat you to that young mitic!

mitic
02-07-2011, 07:08 PM
i may have beat you to that young mitic!

youd wish young aspiring ranjur!

Heebee
02-07-2011, 07:34 PM
youd wish young aspiring ranjur!

I'm fairly sure Aadill beat you both. :P

Jenni D
02-07-2011, 09:20 PM
I'm fairly sure Aadill beat you both. :P

who? everyone knows me and mitic are the only rangers of worth on this godforsaken server.

Hasbinbad
02-07-2011, 09:27 PM
Finished Warhammer of the Wind yesterday. Pretty sure I'm the first shaman to get that.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=25029

grats bagzan =) beat me to it, but I've got server second
You guys seem pretty happy about this hammer.. Is this like the shaman equivalent of a sky "final quest" - like the haste belts for melees? It's not really fair to allow sky haste belts if there is not some equivalent for casters, but I don't have the time to research which quests are the pinnacles of sky questing.. If you guys wanna do the research, I will post the penultimate sky quests for each class of caster under gear milestones.. Get them all tho, so they are all in one post please! I am basically in school or studying ~75 hours a week at this point, so I don't have shit for time. Kthxbyela~

Bagzan
02-07-2011, 09:57 PM
I don't know. Pretty much every class gets a weapon so I don't know what you'd consider this equivalent to since casters don't get anything like haste belts.

Only thing I can really say is that I'm pretty sure, unless I'm forgetting something in Kunark, that this is arguably the best primary pre-Epic. You could make a case for Garduk (23/40, +15 wis, +75 mana) though, I suppose.

Hasbinbad
02-08-2011, 12:48 AM
Well, if people want to support this idea, then they will figure it out and if I see something like support for this idea with research and making it easy for me, I will post something. If there is a lack of interest, I'll just let it stand.

Torqumada286
02-09-2011, 01:43 PM
So, when the time comes for server firsts after Kunark opens and someone runs in here after a day or two to say they have the first 50th/60th level Iksar, can there be an asterisk saying they were power-leveled?

Torqumada

Alkorin
02-09-2011, 02:11 PM
Why would it matter how you got there? You'd still be the first one. Let's not bicker, yes?

Thetruth
02-09-2011, 02:12 PM
Why would it matter how you got there? You'd still be the first one. Let's not bicker, yes?

The truth says,

I will be the first to spread Truth to the forums about your Kunark fails and suceeds

Hasbinbad
02-09-2011, 02:30 PM
So, when the time comes for server firsts after Kunark opens and someone runs in here after a day or two to say they have the first 50th/60th level Iksar, can there be an asterisk saying they were power-leveled?

Torqumada
You shouldn't speak on things that happened before your time, because you sound like you have no idea what actually happened. If you want to know why there is an asterisk by someones name on this list I would be happy to respond to your request via PM, but coming to a public forum and posting out of obvious ignorance is just foolish.

baub
02-10-2011, 06:37 AM
who? everyone knows me and mitic are the only rangers of worth on this godforsaken server.

YO IM REALLY HAPPY FOR YOU AND IM GUNNA LET YOU FINISH BUT ZILO IS THE BEST RANGER ON THIS SERVER OF ALL TIME


OF ALL TIME!!!

on another note, grats on the warhammer! sky is awfully stingy for DA sham..is the 14wis version actually in the game already?! =o

Thetruth
02-10-2011, 06:43 AM
YO IM REALLY HAPPY FOR YOU AND IM GUNNA LET YOU FINISH BUT ZILO IS THE BEST RANGER ON THIS SERVER OF ALL TIME


OF ALL TIME!!!

on another note, grats on the warhammer! sky is awfully stingy for DA sham..is the 14wis version actually in the game already?! =o

The truth says,

Mitic is clearly the best ranger on the server. I never seen someone train and die so many times.

mitic
02-10-2011, 06:57 AM
The truth says,

Mitic is clearly the best ranger on the server.

siged. its the truth afterall

Thetruth
02-10-2011, 07:00 AM
siged. its the truth afterall

The truth says,


Nice sig =)

Durison
02-11-2011, 01:03 AM
Server First - Eye of Veeshan - Feb 10th 2011

Dark Ascension & Vesica Dei

regatta
02-11-2011, 01:05 AM
edited

Nuggie
02-11-2011, 01:09 AM
pics or it didnt' happen

Durison
02-11-2011, 01:20 AM
http://www.darkascensionguild.com/images/stories/EoV/eyeofveeshan-dead-da-vd.jpg

Hasbinbad
02-11-2011, 02:03 AM
updated

ElanoraBryght
02-11-2011, 02:12 AM
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5753/eov2s.png

Hasbinbad
02-11-2011, 02:17 AM
gz druid?

baub
02-11-2011, 02:31 AM
yeh dru/bard/enc


most importantly: ranger belt wuwu

ElanoraBryght
02-11-2011, 02:33 AM
I fail at screenshots tonight :/
Will have to do better next time.

Benebric
02-11-2011, 03:15 AM
http://i.imgur.com/4Qu3p.png

Harrison
02-11-2011, 03:42 AM
http://www.darkascensionguild.com/images/stories/EoV/eyeofveeshan-dead-da-vd.jpg

How do you even still have a guild after being caught hacking? I'm sure you "didn't know" it was happening underneath your nose, like it was in FB. lawl.

azeth
02-11-2011, 08:09 AM
hmm I don't see the sky quests listed, but first Scintillating Bracer of Protection - Azeth

durpabiscuit
02-11-2011, 09:15 AM
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff363/durpabiscuit/good.jpg
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff363/durpabiscuit/good3.jpg
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff363/durpabiscuit/good2.jpg

Hasbinbad
02-11-2011, 10:07 AM
ok guys we're all really proud of you, but this isn't a screenshot thread.. you guys made 78635 other threads about your kill, post screenshots there. kthxbyela~

h0tr0d (shaere)
02-11-2011, 10:09 AM
Nice accomplishments for those involved. Alas, it is years after though.

Aadill
02-11-2011, 10:13 AM
ok guys we're all really proud of you, but this isn't a screenshot thread.. you guys made 78635 other threads about your kill, post screenshots there. kthxbyela~

agreed.. heh.

that's what happens when someone says pics or it didn't happen, though~

azeth
02-11-2011, 10:14 AM
Alas, it is years after though. 11 years.. man can you believe that? 11 years.

Shiftin
02-11-2011, 10:47 AM
hmm I don't see the sky quests listed, but first Scintillating Bracer of Protection - Azeth

Nope.

h0tr0d (shaere)
02-11-2011, 12:34 PM
I know Azeth, crazy. I can still remember Tunare like it was yesterday.

azeth
02-11-2011, 12:38 PM
Nope.

well color me corrected, i did ask around pretty heavily prior to posting though

Nuggie
02-11-2011, 08:49 PM
agreed.. heh.

that's what happens when someone says pics or it didn't happen, though~

my "pics or it didnt' happen" comment was to regatta who said it's been done before. Unfortunately he edited his post. which makes my post look like a challenge to Durison. Which it wasn't. Like Myu said, I was there.

Heebee
02-18-2011, 02:14 AM
Truvinan - Heebee
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5788

Heebee
02-18-2011, 02:19 AM
Fangol - Durison
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2533