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Dolalin
08-21-2020, 03:02 AM
At least, the 1.0 version should.

I found a chat log on the eqbards mailing list from a guild's Innoruuk kill in early-mid 2000 where Innoruuk turns tail and runs at low hp, and is snared. So he should be snare-able too.


Message ID: 16899
Date: Mon Mar 27 19:09:13 BST 2000
Author: Sylly Songsynger
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Umm... easy on the mana...


Greetings!

Desparate Dirge - well I loaded it thinking I might as well since I had an
open slot (and maybe get the kill shot). Heh, read thru the log and you
cans see I should have used Bellow or just whacked him with my 6 Note more.
Guess I should have had Chains memmed too? Good thing we had a ranger with
us <g>. Also funny to see Inny apparently target one of us then AE nuke and
take damage from his own spell - heh.

Sunderfury, Beckon and the Wizard's Diamond wand? Later the Maestro dropped
the Erudite Paladin shield.

Uncle Inny goes out for his nightly stroll thru the streets of Hateville...
http://www.sba.uwm.edu/jgs/sylly/hate/innie.jpg
I think you can see that we have been despelled and bard songs re-filled the
first two slots. Purifyuing & Guardian with MM battle drum on keys 1 and 2.
3 and 4 had Hymn and Niv's and you can see my 7 String ready to be swapped
over.

He gets to low health and trys to run...
http://www.sba.uwm.edu/jgs/sylly/hate/innie_runs.jpg
I blast him with Dirge and you can see the results - heh. My songs: Dirge,
Purifying, Guardian, Hymn, CoCess, Niv's, Bind Sight, and Clarity. Our
cleric had just gotten healed - it looks like i had switched to hymn/niv's
with the lute right before the dirge.

Here is a shot where I scrolled back to get the kill message recorded.
http://www.sba.uwm.edu/jgs/sylly/hate/odyb_ks_innie.jpg
The guy in the pic is a cleric - wonder if he is offereing Inny a rez for
100pp? Arif is a shaman, Bunion a clr, Kuppy a rogue and Nadare enchanter.
No, that is not a tishan orb (I wish) but Shimmering Orb AC 15.

Enjoy,

Sylly Songsynger
<The Pantheon>
Bardette of 48 songs (Saturday - ice giants for 2 bubs; Sun more ice giants
then Runnyeye CR for 3 hours - not mine this time.)
... somewhere on Innoruuk
http://www.sba.uwm.edu/jgs/sylly


[Sat Mar 25 00:15:51 2000] Innoruuk begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:51 2000] Moods begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:51 2000] You throw your head back and loose a desperate
dirge.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:52 2000] Foolmar begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:52 2000] Desitny tells the guild, 'dead'
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:53 2000] Moogi convulses as lightning arcs through them.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:54 2000] Innoruuk convulses as lightning arcs through
them.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:54 2000] Liquid begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:54 2000] Your song ends.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:55 2000] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:55 2000] Phlint feels very dispelled.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:55 2000] You stagger in pain as every bone in your body
pulses.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:55 2000] Innoruuk says 'Hit By non-melee for 7 damage'
<--- you call this a desparate dirge???
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:55 2000] Innoruuk staggers back a step.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:55 2000] Phlint feels much better.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:55 2000] Phlint feels much better.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:56 2000] Khalim begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:56 2000] Bunion begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:57 2000] Tombonian tells the guild, 'WHOOOO HOOOOOOOOO'
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:57 2000] Taking a screenshot...
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:59 2000] Dunklezan feels much better.
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:59 2000] Desitny tells the guild, 'nooo'
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:59 2000] Decantur tells the guild, 'WOOOOO!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:59 2000] Nadare tells the guild, 'inno dead?'
[Sat Mar 25 00:15:59 2000] Kuppy tells the guild, 'WOOO'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:00 2000] Britania tells the guild, 'woohoo'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:00 2000] Innoruuk says 'You will not evade me Murdok'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:00 2000] Murdok feels very dispelled.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:00 2000] Murdok feels very dispelled.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:00 2000] Arif feels much better.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:00 2000] Jessup feels much better.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:00 2000] Gonober begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:02 2000] Desitny tells the guild, 'I AM dead'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:02 2000] Moods tells the guild, 'he's almost down'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:03 2000] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:03 2000]
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:03 2000] Phlint tells the guild, 'not yet'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:05 2000] Desitny tells the guild, 'not the god'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:05 2000] Ataras tells the guild, 'des is dead, not inno'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:05 2000] Moods tells the guild, 'almost'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:06 2000] Your wounds begin to heal.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:06 2000]
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:06 2000] Jessup tells the guild, 'hes running !'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:09 2000] Canda shouts, 'Is he running?'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:11 2000] Thomasm begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:12 2000] Arif shouts, 'DIE BONEHEAD'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:12 2000] Your wounds begin to heal.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:15 2000] Moods tells the guild, 'he ran'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:16 2000] Archi tells the guild, 'He does that'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:16 2000] Your song ends.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:16 2000] Quogin tells the guild, 'damn, stop him!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:17 2000] Nadare tells the guild, 'he is? don't let him run
to zone!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:18 2000] Moods tells the guild, 'damn'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:19 2000]
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:19 2000] Dunklezan was injured by falling.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:19 2000] Auto attack on.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:20 2000] Gonober begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:21 2000] Lober begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:22 2000] Xaera feels very dispelled.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:22 2000] Thomasm auctions, 'i snared him!!!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:22 2000] Your target resisted the Selo`s Chords of
Cessation spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:23 2000] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:23 2000] Arif shouts, 'SNARE'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:25 2000] Gonober says 'Following Master.'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:26 2000] Jessup tells the guild, 'THOMASM RULZ
!!!!!!!!!!!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:26 2000] Odyb begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:27 2000] Phlint was injured by falling.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:28 2000] Your target resisted the Selo`s Chords of
Cessation spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:30 2000] Bunion shouts, 'DIe bastard!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:30 2000] Quogin tells the guild, 'remember first floor
mobs'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:31 2000] Anne tells the guild, 'he dead?'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:31 2000] Ataras tells the guild, 'snared?'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:31 2000] Moods begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:32 2000] Innoruuk staggers.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:32 2000] Innoruuk has been slain by Odyb!
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:32 2000] Your faction standing with InhabitantsOfHate got
worse
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:32 2000] Innoruuk staggers.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:32 2000] Odyb smiles.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:32 2000] Odyb says, 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:33 2000] Khalim begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:33 2000] Tombonian tells the guild, 'nice THOM'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:35 2000] Moods tells the guild, 'woo!!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:35 2000] Jessup tells the guild, 'THOMASM RULZ
!!!!!!!!!!!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:36 2000] Thomasm auctions, 'yes!!!!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:36 2000] Anne tells the guild, 'snared?'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:37 2000] Liquid tells the guild, 'Killshot: Ody@!'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:37 2000] Moods tells the guild, 'we got the exp'
[Sat Mar 25 00:16:38 2000] Khalim tells the guild, 'DEAD'


----- Original Message -----
From: "Garramone, Michael (CCI-Las Vegas)" <garramone@...>
To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Umm... easy on the mana...


> From: "Garramone, Michael (CCI-Las Vegas)" <garramone@...>
>
> only once since i got this song has it actually helped. we still all
died,
> but it allowed us to get the yak from the lord before we were all gone.
it

> Shada Powa, L50 Wood Elf Bard

> > However, IMO, it was still a waste of
> > time because
> > as others have pointed out, the song is way underpowered for
> > the hassle
> > it involves. They may as well have made the song make the
> > bard blow up,
> > killing everything around him, for all the good it usually does.


https://github.com/dbsanfte/eq-archives/blob/master/mailing-lists/eqbards/html/16899.html
https://github.com/dbsanfte/eq-archives/blob/master/mailing-lists/eqbards/16899.json

Arvan
08-21-2020, 03:32 AM
Is that guy saying he could keep his buffs up with just bard song refilling the slots? He dispells way to fast for that on p99 rofl

Erati
08-22-2020, 01:59 PM
wont mobs in range prevent that? its hard to know he doesnt currently flee

Dolalin
08-23-2020, 04:34 PM
wont mobs in range prevent that? its hard to know he doesnt currently flee

I asked reputable sources before filing this bug and he is likely set immune to flee.

Jibartik
08-23-2020, 05:18 PM
gives me flash backs of laughing at the idea that a god was running.

Sunderfury
08-27-2020, 11:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJq77noz-8&feature=youtu.be

This video is from early EQ, poster mentions it could be early Velious, but I believe this is Inny 1.0

Shows him fight to the death (swinging animation / spell casting). Of course if he is snareable one could argue he was rootable via earth pets as well (I notice at least 1 in the fight), causing him to fight until dead.

Dolalin
10-23-2020, 05:27 PM
I was crawling Japanese sites and found a Plane of Hate guide for v2.0:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030607154211/http://cat.clicks.ne.jp/eq/hateraid/mobs.html

It seems to be taken from a Safehouse guide, which I found a copy of here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/archaicarbitrators/raid-to-hate-extended-to-aa-t536.html

In any case, the meat is in this description of Innoruuk:


The God of Hate - (Level 65 - 300,000 HPs) - He does not DeathTouch anymore, but loves to cast gravity flux. When fighting him, always keep your back to a wall. He has a long list of drops, and most of it nice. He will run at near the end of the fight.

Dolalin
04-21-2021, 09:02 AM
Found another corroboration:


He will run. Be prepared for it. Make sure everyone knows, when and if he runs, everyone chases. Clerics nuke, do whatever you have to to drop him. If he makes it to the bottom, kill him no matter what, and train away. DONT TRAIN THE TOP. This way you can res someone to loot so it wont rot(Had it happen ugh).


https://web.archive.org/web/20010209080828/http://www.gameznet.com/eq/ultra/strategies/innoruuk2.html

FerdinandBen
04-22-2021, 06:36 AM
Thank you!

Dolalin
04-22-2021, 04:36 PM
Based on the Safehouse post, I would say both versions of Inny (1.0 and 2.0) should flee when low on hp.