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PabloEdvardo
05-10-2021, 03:03 AM
If I recall correctly, "pain and suffering" is (or at least on live was) coded as an invisible mob, which would become the source of damage when the damage couldn't be attributed to any other source.

Historical records I've found seem to include "Pain and suffering tries to strike YOU"

e.g. see http://www.whodany.com/poh.html


[Mon Jul 16 19:19:32 2001] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Mon Jul 16 19:19:32 2001] Pain and suffering tries to strike YOU, but misses!
[Mon Jul 16 19:19:32 2001] You died.


and https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thetribunaldotorg/the-life-of-cablerepairman-good-times-t3504.html


[Tue Sep 25 17:41:04 2001] Pain and suffering tries to strike YOU, but misses!
[Tue Sep 25 17:41:04 2001] You died.


Emphasis on "strike" -- not hit or kick. I don't ever remember being kicked or bashed by pain and suffering, and cannot find any log records when searching for live logs that would indicate as much.

However, on p99, it seems to be coded as an invisible warrior class, which not only "hits" instead of "strikes", but is capable of kicking, and likely due to its level, can stun with that kick.

I suspect that pain and suffering shouldn't be capable of kicking or bashing or anything!


[Mon May 10 08:00:56 2021] Pain and suffering kicks YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Mon May 10 08:00:56 2021] Pain and suffering tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Mon May 10 08:00:56 2021] Your song ends.
[Mon May 10 08:00:56 2021] You are stunned!
[Mon May 10 08:00:56 2021] Pain and suffering hits YOU for 37 points of damage.

PabloEdvardo
05-12-2021, 06:12 PM
I don't seem to be able to edit my previous post.

web.archive.org is back up, and the top link had a saved copy, so I'm linking it for posterity:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010813094311/http://www.whodany.com/poh.html

The bottom link wasn't cached by the archive, unfortunately.

PabloEdvardo
05-13-2021, 12:47 AM
and for more context (again I can no longer edit my previous posts, sorry for the 'bump')

this is a big issue because the logs from p99 I posted are from a bard who got stunned by pain and suffering damage while going through the firewall in Plane of Fear -- getting stunned as a bard while kiting is huge and life threatening, it shouldn't be happening from fire damage