Being a bard

[Vaelin]

Hey all, lovin the experience here so far, I've had the pleasure of meeting a few wonderful individuals so far.

Cantaa who decked me out in bardly attire when inquiring where the guild was on logging on...lol! and Jeta who gave me some tips about bards in general.

Both of em have said we're broke but manageable. I've read thoroughly the problems with the class and am willing to stick it out I think but wouldn't mind some more input.

Are the problems enough to keep me from quad+ kiting and charm soloing come kunark/velious does anyone think? That might be my overall determining factor because it's a large part of what I'm looking forward to.

Also does anyone know if the issues are completely unable to be resolved or if it's planned to be fixed in time?

I want to be a bard so bad but if it's as bad as some say then I'm not sure it's worth leveling all the way vs complete investment in another class...anyway thanks for putting this together. Love the community so far, can't wait to get in deeper!

Vaelin

[siinge]

bards along with mages are broken

both in a positive way some negatives but the positives make you opd

[mreynert]

Bard > all

...nuff said...

[Jify]

Bard > all

...nuff said...

QFT

[Guitarzan]

quite frankly bards have always been my favorite class as well. hopefully they'll find a fix for the current situation! :D

love the server btw.. great work

[Zordana]

bards along with mages are broken

both in a positive way some negatives but the positives make you opd

whats wrong with mages?

[Flicka]

Not trying to be snarky or anything, just genuinely curious as I've never played a bard or a druid past lvl 10. One thing I've heard multiple times is "I can't quad kite! OH NOOZ!" why exactly is this considered "broken" if nobody else other than with AE's can kill 2+ mobs at a time? I just don't understand it. Or is that it, other casters can ae & hit 4+ mobs but for some reason bard's ae can't? is that the deal?

[Finawin]

Bards can't kite entire zones anymore.

That's their complaint.

[guineapig]

My bard seems fine.
The fact that you don't get the miss a note message just means you need to pay more attention to other things while playing.

Mages are OP on this server, if anything's broken it's the nerf bat when it comes to that class. Not that I advocate nerfs but mages should be thankful they have what they do instead of complaining. Could be a lot worse.

[Crone]

They should be thankful.. Every mage should read this:

http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/magicians.php

TL;DR - It's more beneficial for a mage to pop out mod rods, instead of nuking, even if it's clerics that are nuking.

QQ

[Lonedrahon25]

Please explain to me how mages are so OP? We have the same set of restrictions that goes along with classic as far as i know, maybe the DW pet is about it? But dont complain nerf just because you cant do what a mage can. Lets please not turn this into WoW where everyone screams because so and so is better at killing then i am. QQ

[guineapig]

Please explain to me how mages are so OP? We have the same set of restrictions that goes along with classic as far as i know, maybe the DW pet is about it? But dont complain nerf just because you cant do what a mage can. Lets please not turn this into WoW where everyone screams because so and so is better at killing then i am. QQ

About the only thing that mages can do that I can't is solo level while AFK.
That was recently addressed after 5 months. I know that the enchanter class is more versatile than the mage class. It wasn't my point and I also do not wish to get into that sort of discussion.

And what the hell is QQ? (don't answer, I know what it is. it's simply annoying.)

[Ferok]

They should be thankful.. Every mage should read this:

http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/magicians.php

TL;DR - It's more beneficial for a mage to pop out mod rods, instead of nuking, even if it's clerics that are nuking.

QQ

Interesting read. I feel like I remember reading that way back when.

Funny thing is, they did nerf mod rods. There was a cooldown on the effect so you could only use them so often, and maybe something else. Mages still had to summon them, but the days of burning through a dozen rods per fight per cleric were over.

What's even funnier, is that Mages were essentially reduced to a second rate raid class. Second rate damage, with limited utility (Rods, COH). Having 2-3 on a raid was plenty, even on a 72 man planes raid. Less when they reduced the raid size for GoD.

Classic "be careful what you wish for."

[Lonedrahon25]

So your bone is just that i can put a pet on attack, go run and take a piss, then come back and hope to god that i remembered to flush because im worried about needing to make sure my pet is healed before he gets killed? Do you understand that a mage without a pet is worse off then say a wizard? Mages backbone is the pet, its main focus is on the pet for a reason...Without it, u might as well roll a wizzy for better nukes...

[Trimm]

So your bone is just that i can put a pet on attack, go run and take a piss, then come back and hope to god that i remembered to flush because im worried about needing to make sure my pet is healed before he gets killed? Do you understand that a mage without a pet is worse off then say a wizard? Mages backbone is the pet, its main focus is on the pet for a reason...Without it, u might as well roll a wizzy for better nukes...

I don't think anyone is arguing this. A Mage without a pet should be worst than a Wizard, correct. A Mage's bread and butter is his pet, correct. A Mage can do things a Wiz can't, and vise veras. That's how the game was designed.

What got some people ranting was the statement 'bards along with mages are broken'. This thread was about Bard issues and was derailed in the first post.

[guineapig]

And since we're back on topic now:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jete View Post
Songs not interrupting on the user's end-
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3744
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=410

When a bard song gets interrupted / fizzles, it doesn't stop the cast bar for the Bard.

Fixed, pending update.

Haynar

[Vaelin]

Hey good feed back guys, I'm going to stick it out :)

I'm 6 now, would give anything to find a group but thanks to the twinkage from said individuals it's much easier to level than it would be, I can at least solo yellows...

It'll be easier when I get approved for an IP exemption so me and my bro can both play.

Sounds like its not a big a deal as it seems. I mean ya I've noticed the one bug where interrupts dont register and true if your attentative it's no problem.

Always wanted to play a bard on live. Loved my SK but man, to do it all over again without getting a pre-nerf circlet of shadows is almost impossible lol.

[shinobi wan kenobi]

Please explain to me how mages are so OP? We have the same set of restrictions that goes along with classic as far as i know, maybe the DW pet is about it? But dont complain nerf just because you cant do what a mage can. Lets please not turn this into WoW where everyone screams because so and so is better at killing then i am. QQ

Offtopic, sorry about this:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6056/eq000004.jpg

I basically could have done this on level 29, since all soloing involves for a mage is tossing out a 5 point nuke and occasionally healing the pet.

[yaaaflow]

You heal your pet while you are soloing? I'd rethink your strategy brew.

[Lonedrahon25]

But people dont understand thats what a mage is FOR. Thats like having a wizard and dumbing down his nukes...Because hes able to WTF quad kite like a desert madman! Like WTF are you serious?