Low level magician research problem

[Sorrik]

Trying to research Minor Summoning: Water, a level 16 spell, fails with the message, "You cannot combine these items in this container type!"

From the game resource thread info, I think this should be working:
http://nomadorbit.com/img/research_bug_1.png

I also get the same problem when attempting to do practice research to get Practice Rune Azla:
http://nomadorbit.com/img/research_bug_2.png

My character may just be bugged. I have the research skill at 27, which I understand to not be possible at level 16.

[Aaron]

I have the research skill at 27, which I understand to not be possible at level 16.

Research skills are uncapped.

[siinge]

research is pretty broke here to raise skills, its better to just use skills + plat to raise it. From 150-190 its about 1,000 plat. Even with maxed you still fail alot here, Gm said it was 5% chance to fail but you ll fail more often than not. So just dump plat into reseach to avoid skilling it. Its broken and over all not worth it.

Time is money friend.

[Neuman]

Mage research has worked okay for me so far (level 29). One thing I noticed was that the spell "Summoning: Earth" had a trivial of 255 while it's probably supposed to be around 60.
http://www.project1999.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59&stc=1&d=1268092568

[Wenai]

Changed Spell: Summoning: Earth to be trivial at 60 instead of 255.

Can someone get me the trivial values for the:

Level 16 Water Pet.
Level 16 Air Pet.
Level 16 Fire Pet.

None of these appear to be in the tradeskills db. They will have to be added once I get the trivial values. I know there was a good site a while ago with a great classic research guide (xymarra?) but I can't seem to find it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021123082155/www.geocities.com/xymarra/

That is all I can find but it doesn't have any of the research info. Gah.

[Goobles]

Answer is 55.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=9051

[Wenai]

Answer is 55.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=9051
I thought they had revamped the entire research system. Is that trivial value still accurate to the classic version?

[Sorrik]

From eqtraders.com, dated 2003-05-20:

http://www.eqtraders.com/articles/article_page.php?article=g91&menustr=040095000000

Per spell rank trivials, but for wizard research:

Trivials for Wizard Research spells:

Level 16 Spells - Trivial at 26.
Level 20 Spells - Trivial at 46.
Level 24 Spells - Trivial at 71.
Level 29 Spells - Trivial at 96.
Level 34 Spells - Trivial at 120.
Level 39 Spells - Trivial at 140.
Level 44 Spells - Trivial at 166.
Level 49 Spells - Trivial at 184.


Admittedly not for magicians, but quite close to known mage research trivials from here:
http://www.magecompendium.com/research-library.html

[Sorrik]

Well, looks like the research combine may have failed because I didn't include a parchment and quill.

On the other hand, I wasn't able to find parchment or quills on the vendor Mekoma Buma in West Freeport.

[Atennu]

Parchment and quill are NOT on the server

[gprater]

"a piece of parchment " is and a quill is..but apparently according the other posters its the wrong quill..i farmed this morning for practice research materials to find out it would not combine.

[Ropethunder]

I don't think practice runes are implemented right now.