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zelld52
08-22-2023, 10:51 AM
Did exclusively Permafrost on my shaman 55-60 shortly after Velious release, before the ZEM shuffle. I remember being level 59 and getting 1% per 4 bears on an Ogre.


I'm level 55 on enchanter, and getting MUCH LESS now. Have done hours here to get a good average and am averaging about 0.4% per bear. (average 4% per 10 bears over 6 hours)

https://wiki.project1999.com/Experience_table

If the above EXP table is accurate, then the ZEM is below 100 for Permafrost now. Low end bear is level 43.

43^2 = 1849.
1849 * 100 = 189400.
189400 / 33M 500k = 0.6%
With a base ZEM of 100, I should be getting 0.6% per bear. Or 6% after 10 bears.


0.4% of 33M is 134352.
134352 / 1849 = 73.

Based on the evidence I've collected (and corroborated with other people who say Permafrost feels very very slow nowadays), the ZEM from Permafrost went from 150 down to 73? (Maybe 75 and was just cut in half).

I know it's old, but I plugged my experimental numbers into Green EXP Calculator (https://www.cs.mun.ca/~dchurchill/html5/p99exp/) and got similar results. I plugged in a level 43 mob, with a 72 ZEM, at level 55 -- and it says approx 240 mobs to ding. That is in line with 0.4% per kill. This web app has always been accurate for solo exp in the past.


So the ZEM was cut in half? It would also be one of (if not the lowest) ZEMs. That seems a little much? Anyone else have other data?

bivouac
08-25-2023, 11:06 PM
I believe your discrepancy is related to the XP chart and not so much Perma's ZEM. Here's a thread about level 55+ exp requirements (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3233226#post3233226) with replies disputing info on the wiki. I found a ZEM of 100+ using your % / kill against the chart linked in the replies.

zelld52
08-26-2023, 06:07 PM
I believe your discrepancy is related to the XP chart and not so much Perma's ZEM. Here's a thread about level 55+ exp requirements (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3233226#post3233226) with replies disputing info on the wiki. I found a ZEM of 100+ using your % / kill against the chart linked in the replies.

Thanks for this! I ran my numbers through these required exp numbers for level 55 and it made much more sense. Still, ZEM got nerfed huge in perma it seems, because with 100 ZEM, it's approx 0.4% per mob. It was well higher than that before the ZEM shuffle, but I thought it was only reduced 15% or so.

Either way, great find, thanks!