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Reiwa
01-17-2025, 12:32 AM
Supposedly Snopes had a mission statement something to the effect of “to demonstrate how unbiased we are, none of our staff are allowed to donate to political causes” or something to that effect

But the first few staff members this guy checked, all donated to Dems. I knew Snopes was biased when they never once mentioned anything about the Jussie Smolette hoax. That was big news back in the day. Had he been a Repub, they’d have been all over it

Where I heard this about the donations is linked below. Now did this have a role to play in FB’s decision? Did they catch wind that Snopes staff was donating to Dems? Who knows:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4I4bl7Ea8

Let's play Jenga

https://i.imgur.com/r8Pobkz.png

https://i.imgur.com/SY5emXx.png

https://i.imgur.com/qAwejYz.png

https://i.imgur.com/WleBFnZ.png

Can you make a narrative from this without the youtube man doing it for you?

Reiwa
01-17-2025, 12:36 AM
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll

NopeNopeNopeNope
01-17-2025, 12:56 AM
Let's play Jenga

https://i.imgur.com/r8Pobkz.png

https://i.imgur.com/SY5emXx.png

https://i.imgur.com/qAwejYz.png

https://i.imgur.com/WleBFnZ.png

Can you make a narrative from this without the youtube man doing it for you?

Lol heck no, I don’t have that kinda time. Was YouTube man wrong? The list pics are blurry on my phone

Reiwa
01-17-2025, 01:02 AM
Lol heck no, I don’t have that kinda time. Was YouTube man wrong? The list pics are blurry on my phone

All that is beside the point anyway.

If Cider were a consistent logician, he'd recognize it as an ad hominem attack that has very little to do with the claims and counterarguments they present.

Discrediting the source is not discrediting the claim.

Reiwa
01-19-2025, 11:57 PM
At least he isn't trading the Uyghurs for fentanyl yet (https://lite.cnn.com/2025/01/19/china/han-zheng-trump-inauguration-intl-hnk/index.html)

Maybe later for a second time.

NopeNopeNopeNope
01-20-2025, 01:20 AM
At least he isn't trading the Uyghurs for fentanyl yet (https://lite.cnn.com/2025/01/19/china/han-zheng-trump-inauguration-intl-hnk/index.html)

Maybe later for a second time.

He’s trying to talk Trump out of his crazy proclamation that he’s going to war with the cartels. As we know China is their supplier of precursor chemicals

I think it’s noble but crazy to say you are going to war with the cartels. It’s like you had two big ASSes attempts in one year and want a bigger target on your back? And what are you going to do? Drone and bomb the living shit out of Mexico? The cartels here run and hide already for self-preservation. Go ahead and root them out but if you want a “war” with the cartels it would have to take place in Mexico

Botten
01-20-2025, 03:15 PM
HeÂ’s trying to talk Trump out of his crazy proclamation that heÂ’s going to war with the cartels. As we know China is their supplier of precursor chemicals

I think it’s noble but crazy to say you are going to war with the cartels. It’s like you had two big ASSes attempts in one year and want a bigger target on your back? And what are you going to do? Drone and bomb the living shit out of Mexico? The cartels here run and hide already for self-preservation. Go ahead and root them out but if you want a “war” with the cartels it would have to take place in Mexico

We all meet our maker in our own way.

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 03:35 PM
He’s trying to talk Trump out of his crazy proclamation that he’s going to war with the cartels. As we know China is their supplier of precursor chemicals

I think it’s noble but crazy to say you are going to war with the cartels. It’s like you had two big ASSes attempts in one year and want a bigger target on your back? And what are you going to do? Drone and bomb the living shit out of Mexico? The cartels here run and hide already for self-preservation. Go ahead and root them out but if you want a “war” with the cartels it would have to take place in Mexico

If going against the cartel is too dangerous for a US president to do because of the danger of the cartel assassinating our president, then we should definitely go after the cartel.

Ekco
01-20-2025, 03:47 PM
the war with cartels is our next Afghanistan, or we can go back to the ME if you prefer instead. but we gotta have one forever war going at all times, it's kinda important for our economy.

Ciderpress
01-20-2025, 04:01 PM
I think the term "war" might be somewhat figurative. I don't think he wants to actually literally bomb mexico. It's like "I'm going to war with gluten!!"

Botten
01-20-2025, 04:04 PM
If going against the cartel is too dangerous for a US president to do because of the danger of the cartel assassinating our president, then we should definitely go after the cartel.

What did the cartels do to Trump?

Those last two attempts on him and the attempt on his X-VP were from his own party.

Wouldn't you agree shovelquest the crazy are not to be trifled with.

Botten
01-20-2025, 04:06 PM
I think the term "war" might be somewhat figurative. I don't think he wants to actually literally bomb mexico. It's like "I'm going to war with gluten!!"

Ah yes, 4 more years of he didn't really mean that he is just giving the wrong message to his extremist in the party that will believe it. Pizzagate 2.0 here we come!

Ciderpress
01-20-2025, 04:07 PM
What did the cartels do to Trump?

Those last two attempts on him and the attempt on his X-VP were from his own party.

Wouldn't you agree shovelquest the crazy are not to be trifled with.

If anyone even tangentially related to trump ever died of a fentanyl od, that's one thing they did to him!

Not that you necessarily need to have known somebody who died of a fentanyl od to understand it's a huge problem and apply maximum pressure to the cartels supplying it.

So much tds clouding people's better judgement about really simple issues, it's kinda stunning.

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 04:09 PM
What did the cartels do to Trump?

Wouldn't you agree shovelquest the crazy are not to be trifled with.

Did you read the post I replied to? I was replying to nopenopenope, not donald trump.

Nopenopenope said he was surprised trump said that, because the cartel is so insane that they might try to kill trump.

I said if that were true, then we need to crush the cartel with the full force of the military.

Why are liberals so illiterate? Don't you have student loans?

Those last two attempts on him.

Yes i agree we shoud use the full force of the military to imprison anyone who donates to Act Blue.

Ah yes, 4 more years of he didn't really mean that he is just giving the wrong message to his extremist in the party that will believe it. Pizzagate 2.0 here we come!

4 years of no wars, and now ww3 to clean up your 4 years of mass wars.

Ciderpress
01-20-2025, 04:09 PM
Ah yes, 4 more years of he didn't really mean that he is just giving the wrong message to his extremist in the party that will believe it. Pizzagate 2.0 here we come!

...... are you literally telling me you don't understand what a figure of speech is? It's just like the stupid "bloodbath" thing. He was speaking to auto workers about how it would be an economic "blood bath" for their industry if he isn't re-elected. IE- a common parlance figure of speech that millions of people have used before.

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 04:12 PM
...... are you literally telling me you don't understand what a figure of speech is? It's just like the stupid "bloodbath" thing. He was speaking to auto workers about how it would be an economic "blood bath" for their industry if he isn't re-elected. IE- a common parlance figure of speech that millions of people have used before.

He thinks we're in a hot war against drugs.

Reiwa
01-20-2025, 04:25 PM
If going against the cartel is too dangerous for a US president to do because of the danger of the cartel assassinating our president, then we should definitely go after the cartel.

I think they'd use a rocket launcher if they did. How do you counter that? :p

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 04:30 PM
I think they'd use a rocket launcher if they did. How do you counter that? :p

After 20 years of trying our best strategy is to evacuate so fast people fall off of airplanes :D

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 04:54 PM
Elon Musk's Inauguration speech:

https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi/clip/GeniusTolerantCakeDansGame-Km70ML9tuN0kJVL_

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Botten
01-20-2025, 04:57 PM
... not donald trump.

... is so insane that they might try to kill trump.

uh huh... :confused:

Don't you have student loans?

The same degree can often be received somewhere else and for a lot cheaper.
This shouldn't be that way, an extended education in the richest country in the world should be free.

If it was free then your boy Elon wouldn't be paying for so many smarter foreigners using H1B visas.

Yes i agree we shoud use the full force of the military to imprison anyone who donates to Act Blue.

A GOP voter for at least 4 years suddenly became equivalent to 15 dollars handout. :rolleyes:

4 years of no wars, and now ww3 to clean up your 4 years of mass wars.

You talking about the Syrian and Afghanistan war that was still going on during his term?

Or the new ones during his last term like:
Anglophone Crisis, Ethiopian conflict, Haiti Gang War or the Philippine Drug war (LoL he praised the nutcase killing his ppl in this one)

Tell me you didn't really drink the orange kool aid he fed you.

What WW3?

Biden admin is over and your orange man is sending mixed messages on possibly even more sanctions on Russia. :)

FAFO

Ekco
01-20-2025, 04:58 PM
I, for one, welcome the new paradigm we find ourselves in
https://i.imgur.com/Y6PkufJ.jpeg

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 05:01 PM
Old republicans talking to new republicans.

At_C4jfxEg0

Botten
01-20-2025, 05:04 PM
He thinks we're in a hot war against drugs.

Because placing them on a list and calling them out isn't?

Or was it the soft invasion talk (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-team-said-debating-much-232551873.html)

Cid taking it to the Nth degree sounds like he fits well with his extreme group targeting their leaders.

Sure sounds like the war on drugs is back on.

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Swish
01-20-2025, 05:07 PM
Drug related deaths aren't going to drop, are they?

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 05:07 PM
...

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Ekco
01-20-2025, 05:11 PM
Old republicans talking to new republicans.

At_C4jfxEg0

never watched Chappie, didn't know they had the chick from Die Antwoord in it. still waiting for that dude who made Chappie to fucking finish the district 9 story, like wtf m8 and for Die Antwoord to make another good song for that matter.

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shovelquest
01-20-2025, 05:15 PM
never watched Chappie, didn't know they had the chick from Die Antwoord in it. still waiting for that dude who made Chappie to fucking finish the district 9 story, like wtf m8 and for Die Antwoord to make another good song for that matter.

Chappie is kind of like, Die Antwoord is like as a group the main characters haha!

Did you see this? This is so awesome, it's like all the conspiracies about retpoids, they even have tinfoil hats. Its so good. Its for that netflix sci-fi anthology show, same director.

I'd take a serious movie about this over a disctrict 9 update, but I would also die for a district 9 update... those guns were so amazing.

I want to see the worlds they needed them for... :eek:

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Reiwa
01-20-2025, 05:24 PM
Haiti Gang War


It's called the war of Kenyan aggression. They had to shutdown Labadee for it.

Ekco
01-20-2025, 05:33 PM
Did you see this? This is so awesome, it's like all the conspiracies about retpoids, they even have tinfoil hats. Its so good. Its for that netflix sci-fi anthology show, same director.

I'd take a serious movie about this over a disctrict 9 update, but I would also die for a district 9 update... those guns were so amazing.

I want to see the worlds they needed them for... :eek:


hadn't seen that trailer yet, that's insanely good. i follow #KlingAI and another one i forgot. on twitter tons of people using that to make trailers. the one you posted looks so good though i think someone spent some money creating that, would be interested to know the exact cost, and models used to produce it. i'm guessing around 500 bucks in tokens or something maybe way more idk

>but I would also die for a district 9 update... those guns were so amazing.
yeah, i think the build up was done so well in district 9 that no matter how good the sequel was there was no way it could meet expectations, maybe now it can with cheaper CGI idk

Botten
01-20-2025, 05:49 PM
<whacky Tom MacDonald in drag. Watch out he may read to kindargadreners>

Ah yes, the irony, Roseanne Barr who admits to abuse of meds before bed.

And Tom MacDonald that dresses and lives like a Liberal.

Ekco
01-20-2025, 05:57 PM
And Tom MacDonald that dresses and lives like a Liberal.

it's almost like pretending to be something you aren't is a business strategy, if he didn't do what he did for branding nobody who know who he was, especially people on a everquest forum. he saw Machine Gun Kelly go after Eminem for the "generic white guy" rapper and after what happened to him this Tom guy said fuuuuuck that.

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 06:04 PM
wtb Rosanne crypto.

Ekco
01-20-2025, 06:35 PM
wtb Rosanne crypto.

wtb back stage passes to the Crypto X Inauguration rave / orgy tonight.

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Botten
01-20-2025, 07:02 PM
Vivek Ramaswamy Is Already Out At DOGE (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/vivek-ramaswamy-doge-trump_n_678ec56ee4b0e3f654b3dc21)

The Pharma swindler is out.

Whose next?!

Ciderpress
01-20-2025, 07:13 PM
Haha "alongside billionaire elon musk". I'd call him visionary reusable rocket guy, but okay. They just can't help themselves.

Reiwa
01-20-2025, 07:15 PM
jerkass joe (https://www.fbi.gov/news/speeches/director-wrays-letter-in-opposition-to-leonard-peltiers-application-for-parole)

NopeNopeNopeNope
01-20-2025, 07:18 PM
It just doesn’t make sense to me to declare a “war” against gangs or cartels or whoever

If you are going to do something, just do it. Don’t give them free intel so they can prep better. If you want some praise, say what you did after it’s done. Talk is cheap

Or do it and don’t ever say you did. “Oh I dunno what happened, wasn’t us”. I mean it’s kinda shady, but it’s the smartest way overall IMO to avoid as much retaliation

Botten
01-20-2025, 07:27 PM
jerkass joe (https://www.fbi.gov/news/speeches/director-wrays-letter-in-opposition-to-leonard-peltiers-application-for-parole)

Can I raise you one Germany salute from Elon? (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-draws-outrage-over-201602147.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFEmT_krkZOMVfP4GQ3COhnX7mXm IJDrT5I0IcIw_pYFcneo2CJQCXbW0JGn41tBzqgnbZIn0JqZm_ aAL-3cZeww5HZI6ZdNNLjw59VNWY0IXDyqcUfBEn7zzeguvR8_ReJD r-ItmgwJB4kEhlH3v4L5GlA5S1c10GwsZmhD5ari)

Ekco
01-20-2025, 07:37 PM
is that salute even real? i didn't watch any of the song and dance show today, too busy talking to my AI robot girlfriend about Star Trek episodes.

https://i.imgur.com/Qxv7SVW.png

lulz

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 10:11 PM
is that salute even real? i didn't watch any of the song and dance show today, too busy talking to my AI robot girlfriend about Star Trek episodes.


https://project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3716927&postcount=269

This post has the video without all the clickbait popups.


"did he just zig hei--"

😂

I mean that's one way to gesture that your heart goes out to you. I guess...

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 10:23 PM
Shoutout to trump pardoning 1500 people.

#winning.

"There's murderers that serve less time than they have,"

NopeNopeNopeNope
01-20-2025, 10:30 PM
/salute Jon Fetterman for trying to normalize wearing gym shorts to major political public events

I fucking love gym shorts. They’re comfy. You can move in them if you have to. If you have to piss real bad and don’t want to fumble around with a drawstring just lift one side of the shorts from the bottom and go out from the bottom if you don’t have a microdick. I wear them just about everywhere on my off time

Not as big on hoodies but thank you anyway Mr Fetterman

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 10:34 PM
And normalize hating on progressives LOL

Reiwa
01-20-2025, 10:57 PM
And normalize hating on progressives LOL

Ultimately Manchinism was the true international.

Botten
01-20-2025, 11:02 PM
Shoutout to trump pardoning 1500 people.

#winning.

"There's murderers that serve less time than they have,"

The party can place another notch in its belt against law and order.


And speaking of at least 4 murders caused by them. (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/who-died-in-capitol-building-attack.html)

Ah yes the party in power is 'progressively' getting more fascist thanks to Elon and the Orange egg man.

Is America better yet? :confused:

Trexller
01-20-2025, 11:18 PM
Is America better yet? :confused:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCrr-f0W4AAfqaY?format=jpg&name=large

Ekco
01-20-2025, 11:20 PM
the prodigal son returns

Lune
01-20-2025, 11:21 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCrr-f0W4AAfqaY?format=jpg&name=large

https://i.imgur.com/x4omMef.gif

shovelquest
01-20-2025, 11:31 PM
https://i.imgur.com/x4omMef.gif

I genuinely think we averted ww3 not saying trump wont kill us in a different way.

Swish
01-21-2025, 12:45 AM
https://project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3716927&postcount=269

This post has the video without all the clickbait popups.


"did he just zig hei--"

😂

I mean that's one way to gesture that your heart goes out to you. I guess...

Surely he was just saying Qapla ?

https://youtu.be/YceE15VQYHE?si=8C5EgF8rgVt_QyTP&t=47

Ciderpress
01-21-2025, 07:16 PM
I'm calling it now guys: in 4 years there will be another election. The losing side will insist the sky is falling and the winning side will insist it's the second coming. This is the american way.

shovelquest
01-23-2025, 01:59 AM
Putins totally real demands to end the war in ukraine:

I want anthony fauci, a brand new tesla, 14 white baboons, Australia (except Queensland), two comely lasses of virtue true, a pig (every month), ...

https://i.imgur.com/hvtZpR8.png

Ekco
01-23-2025, 07:38 AM
Is America better yet? :confused:

https://i.imgur.com/kWQscrd.png

idk but Thursday is off to a pretty funny start. Neolibs taking CNN back it seems

Ciderpress
01-23-2025, 02:23 PM
The only cable news outlet with any integrity is cspan, cause they have next to no hosts, or analysis, or opinion. They're just like "Hey there's a congressional hearing today, we're gonna televise the entire thing from start to finish uninterrupted and you make of it what you will." The only shows they have with hosts are like nerdy book review shows.

So much better than literally every other network which is just barely above jerry springer in terms of journalistic integrity.

Reiwa
01-23-2025, 02:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/kWQscrd.png

idk but Thursday is off to a pretty funny start. Neolibs taking CNN back it seems

Winner: Jake Tapper (prick, funny)
Loser: Jim Acosta (dumb, boring)

Ekco
01-23-2025, 02:55 PM
The only cable news outlet with any integrity is cspan, cause they have next to no hosts
Brian Lamb is the GOAT and the Wash Journal hosts are good. i had to stop watching years ago though the callers sound like people who would call in to Art Bell's Coast to Coast AM now and they don't hang up on them until they say something real crazy.

calling in and calling some general dude a war criminal in the early 00s when i still thought politics mattered was fun. good public service Cspan is.

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shovelquest
01-23-2025, 02:55 PM
Melina: 😍

https://i.imgur.com/eqGrCHG.gif

Ekco
01-23-2025, 02:58 PM
Winner: Jake Tapper (prick, funny)
Loser: Jim Acosta (dumb, boring)

since WWE writers are obviously writing the scripts for reality now, Tucker should go back to CNN and bring Crossfire back from the dead, and that stupid bow tie of his.

shovelquest
01-23-2025, 03:00 PM
Tucker should go back to CNN and bring Crossfire back from the dead, and that stupid bow tie of his.

First broadcast.

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Ekco
01-23-2025, 03:03 PM
WUnNPUSyqUM

The voters, the people of this country. get exactly the government they deserve.

shovelquest
01-23-2025, 06:36 PM
get exactly the government they deserve.

New goverment:

JFK files released.

Cold war era, pentagon ruled, fascist global police, warmongering, old goverment:

https://i.imgur.com/el6sOqd.png

Ekco
01-24-2025, 01:21 AM
New goverment:

JFK files released.

Cold war era, pentagon ruled, fascist global police, warmongering, old goverment:

https://i.imgur.com/el6sOqd.png

https://i.imgur.com/CbOpUhr.jpeg

Duik
01-24-2025, 05:56 AM
Good luck with all that you all done voted for.

Reiwa
01-25-2025, 04:25 PM
"Gulf of America" redirects here. For the gulf in Russia formerly known as the Gulf of America, see Nakhodka Bay.

shovelquest
01-25-2025, 05:14 PM
😂😂😂 She's had it up to here.

https://i.imgur.com/1DnwMmv.png

Ciderpress
01-25-2025, 05:46 PM
Good luck with all that you all done voted for.

It will objectively be better, if only due to decreased incompetence, which is not the same thing as competence.

Though I dunno I think I'm gonna wait for something bad to actually happen before I start yelling the sky is falling, which is a very unpopular take over here. If you're even somewhat centrist everyone on both sides hates you bc tribalism et al

Ekco
01-25-2025, 05:59 PM
If you're even somewhat centrist everyone on both sides hates you bc tribalism et al

i like the 40,000 feet up perspective it gives you though, neither side sees how insanely alike they are to the other tribe from a outsider point of view or how stupid they look.

like Manufacturing Consent was written nearly 40 years ago, this is the same thing but it's social media instead of mainstream media and social is 10x more effective at it.

call it brain rot or being an NPC or whatever you want, it's straight out of a twilight zone episode though

shovelquest
01-25-2025, 07:07 PM
So far the billionaire guy put hurricane victims on TV so they could 1 after the other out insurance companies for ripping them off.

Freed like a bunch of people that live in trailers.

Released the JFK files.

He even gave half a trillion dollars to his buddy elon's biggest competitors.

Idk bro. The rhetoric is not adding up.

Swish
01-25-2025, 07:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/CbOpUhr.jpeg

One day but not until the last offenders/passengers/etc are dead.

Reiwa
01-25-2025, 07:55 PM
Break bread with the enemy (What?)
No matter how many cats I break bread with, I'll break who you sendin' me (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Consensus_Declaration#Signatories)

shovelquest
01-25-2025, 08:22 PM
When they took the microphone from the LA mayor.

It makes me laugh so hard every time.

Trexller
01-25-2025, 10:49 PM
When they took the microphone from the LA mayor.

It makes me laugh so hard every time.

Somebody had to

nice to see sane adults in charge again

Swish
01-25-2025, 10:50 PM
She's cooked, when is the next election for a potential new LA mayor?

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 12:05 AM
Idk but the guy she ran against was on bill Maher a couple weeks ago and he had the backing of the fire dept lol

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 12:25 AM
She's probably a bad mayor but furthering his political career by the fortunate circumstance of a city burning down is bad too

send post

Swish
01-26-2025, 12:34 AM
Idk but the guy she ran against was on bill Maher a couple weeks ago and he had the backing of the fire dept lol

No chance in hell she gets in again then. If only this could happen to the London mayor who is at least as bad as her.

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 12:55 AM
No chance in hell she gets in again then. If only this could happen to the London mayor who is at least as bad as her.

Oi mate. 'Av yew got a probloim wit' meself?

https://i.imgur.com/zt3W9jP.png

Ekco
01-26-2025, 01:17 AM
Idk but the guy she ran against was on bill Maher a couple weeks ago and he had the backing of the fire dept lol

he is a republican and Bill's crowd was applauding him. dude had a shit eating grin when bill brought up him running again, dude is gonna win easily

blue team is going to be having a rebuilding phase for awhile, i forget the handegg term cause i don't watch the shit. but i don't think they're going to play offs anytime soon again, its gonna be like reagan/bush all over again but instead of carter having 4 years its biden now.

blue team should be good to go in 16 years with bill Clinton 2.0

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 01:26 AM
he is a republican and Bill's crowd was applauding him. dude had a shit eating grin when bill brought up him running again, dude is gonna win easily

blue team is going to be having a rebuilding phase for awhile, i forget the handegg term cause i don't watch the shit. but i don't think they're going to play offs anytime soon again, its gonna be like reagan/bush all over again but instead of carter having 4 years its biden now.

blue team should be good to go in 16 years with bill Clinton 2.0

It'll be a communist revolution in 2028 if food prices don't come down.

Which they won't, because they can't.

AOC is running. The Pit and the Pendulum is a good poem.

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 01:29 AM
It'll be a communist revolution in 2028 if food prices don't come down.

Haha we'd have an authoritarian Christian empire in 2029 if we did

Ekco
01-26-2025, 01:43 AM
It'll be a communist revolution in 2028 if food prices don't come down.

Which they won't, because they can't.

AOC is running. The Pit and the Pendulum is a good poem.

idk, i think literally the opposite is gonna happen, the economy is going to do great and they are basically going to create a whole new generation of "fuck you got mine" boomers because things like having a 14 year old girl with fetal alcohol syndrome as your spokesperson for saving the planet is cringe AF fr fr as the kids say.

the system saw the trend line back during like Obama's first term and the '08 housing crisis and saw they had to auto balance the teams or the system is fucked within a decade, they we're behind schedule and did a lab leak to get the ball in the end zone.

thanks for attending my schizo ted talk

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 01:45 AM
HA6mksFu2vc

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 01:47 AM
idk, i think literally the opposite is gonna happen, the economy is going to do great and they are basically going to create a whole new generation of "fuck you got mine" boomers because things like having a 14 year old girl with fetal alcohol syndrome as your spokesperson for saving the planet is cringe AF fr fr as the kids say.

the system saw the trend line back during like Obama's first term and the '08 housing crisis and saw they had to auto balance the teams or the system is fucked within a decade, they we're behind schedule and did a lab leak to get the ball in the end zone.

thanks for attending my schizo ted talk

I don't doubt investments will do extremely well, but deflation is absolutely not in the cards this side of revolution. Our current system simply does not allow for it.

A lot of people will accept that wager. (bad thing)

Ekco
01-26-2025, 01:50 AM
if the lockdowns didn't break magic money theory, literally nothing can. people can stack gold and silver all they want.

the machine is gonna keep marchin the fuck on, and deregulating literally everything is gonna rise all boats in the short term massively.

red team is going to do a dance and spike the ball at the midterms

Ekco
01-26-2025, 01:52 AM
also, literally everyone should consider crypto now because the chances this dude doesn't get rid of cap gains tax on them is near zero.

and i fucking hate crypto, made my wallet today =(

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 01:53 AM
You will all kneel before the crypto bro pentillionares.

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 01:55 AM
if the lockdowns didn't break magic money theory, literally nothing can. people can stack gold and silver all they want.

the machine is gonna keep marchin the fuck on, and deregulating literally everything is gonna rise all boats in the short term massively.

red team is going to do a dance and spike the ball at the midterms

I've heard tales of the 'permanent conservative majority (https://theweek.com/articles/442287/myth-permanent-majority)'.

But that was in the 1990s. And the early 2000s.

Ekco
01-26-2025, 01:57 AM
look, we're gonna make moon bases and the god emperor is going to be newt Gingrich

he was right all along.

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 01:57 AM
What is a permanent conservative?

Is it this?

https://i.imgur.com/lkZcfw6.jpeg

Ekco
01-26-2025, 02:02 AM
What is a permanent conservative?

Is it this?

https://i.imgur.com/lkZcfw6.jpeg

whats the thing where everyone converts to Christianity? it's that. happens after/during tribulations?

Deus vult

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 02:03 AM
What is a permanent conservative?

Is it this?

https://i.imgur.com/lkZcfw6.jpeg

When you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 02:11 AM
I've heard tales of the 'permanent conservative majority (https://theweek.com/articles/442287/myth-permanent-majority)'.

But that was in the 1990s. And the early 2000s.

Editors note: This also exists for the blue team on a grander scale.

Ekco
01-26-2025, 09:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/V09zaZo.jpeg

in other breaking news, water is wet.

i don't disagree with them not telling the public though, i just think anyone that didn't instantly realize that is retarded.

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 02:52 PM
We didn't say it was a lab leak for 1 reason. Trump said CHINA with a strong accent for a couple years prior.

Botten
01-26-2025, 05:41 PM
We didn't say it was a lab leak for 1 reason. Trump said CHINA with a strong accent for a couple years prior.

Trump campaign and MAGA self researchers can think what they want.

Chinese embassy have their information (https://www.yahoo.com/news/cia-believes-covid-likely-originated-204134661.html)

Separately Scientists have theirs (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03026-9)

Repeated historical similar viruses say otherwise
SARS-CoV-2 shares about 79.6% and 50% overall genomic similarity with SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV

Furthermore, we show that 2019-nCoV is 96% identical at the whole-genome level to a bat coronavirus. (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2012-7)

You going to call SARS-CoV also a lab leak :rolleyes:

Hell, I need to find the paper but I believe the horseshoe bats in China and Laos collected for consumption at wet markets often have a SARS-CoV-2 virus with a genome that is similar.

Even Clinical, epidemiological and phylogenetic clues point to a coronavirus that caused the Russian influenza pandemic at end of the 1800s, that killed millions, as occurred in Covid-19, with its flu-like symptoms. (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8813723/)

Lets related this to a virus jumping from animal to human now:
We see bird flu jumping from birds to humans now. That is probably from a lab too right? :rolleyes:

But I get it hunch from the Trump admin CIA has met the MAGA itch best.

Ekco
01-26-2025, 05:54 PM
Trump campaign and MAGA self researchers can think what they want.

Chinese embassy have their information (https://www.yahoo.com/news/cia-believes-covid-likely-originated-204134661.html)

Separately Scientists have theirs (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03026-9)

Repeated historical similar viruses say otherwise
SARS-CoV-2 shares about 79.6% and 50% overall genomic similarity with SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV

Furthermore, we show that 2019-nCoV is 96% identical at the whole-genome level to a bat coronavirus. (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2012-7)

You going to call SARS-CoV also a lab leak :rolleyes:

Hell, I need to find the paper but I believe the horseshoe bats in China and Laos collected for consumption at wet markets often have a SARS-CoV-2 virus with a genome that is similar.

Even Clinical, epidemiological and phylogenetic clues point to a coronavirus that caused the Russian influenza pandemic at end of the 1800s, that killed millions, as occurred in Covid-19, with its flu-like symptoms. (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8813723/)

Lets related this to a virus jumping from animal to human now:
We see bird flu jumping from birds to humans now. That is probably from a lab too right? :rolleyes:

But I get it hunch from the Trump admin CIA has met the MAGA itch best.

occam's razor pwns all of that. team red and team blue players are literally incapable to objectively looking at the siutation and the timeline if you even remember it

it started with the first videos floating around of people just falling over in china that only places like 4chan were talking about for like 1.5 months so from the jump it was being censored, WHO isn't a unbiased immune to influence organization and 100% of everyone involved understands the logic and need to not start a global panic

that was literally the only thing they did do right, was lying about the orgins and lying about paper masks being effective to keep the drool cups from losing their minds and killing eachother at the grocery store

everything else they failed at as far managing the situation

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 06:05 PM
occam's razor pwns all of that. team red and team blue players are literally incapable to objectively looking at the siutation and the timeline if you even remember it

it started with the first videos floating around of people just falling over in china that only places like 4chan were talking about for like 1.5 months so from the jump it was being censored, WHO isn't a unbiased immune to influence organization and 100% of everyone involved understands the logic and need to not start a global panic

that was literally the only thing they did do right, was lying about the orgins and lying about paper masks being effective to keep the drool cups from losing their minds and killing eachother at the grocery store

everything else they failed at as far managing the situation

Would a coronavirus go in a BSL-4 lab that typically deals with hemorrhagic fevers?

Occam's laser.

Ekco
01-26-2025, 06:19 PM
there's so many other threats currently i'm not even gonna worry about kung flu 5 years later and who was right and who was wrong.

i'm waiting for more internet cable attacks in Europe to happen

S6RzFCyZbQ4

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 06:32 PM
there's so many other threats currently i'm not even gonna worry about kung flu 5 years later and who was right and who was wrong.

i'm waiting for more internet cable attacks in Europe to happen

S6RzFCyZbQ4

I'm a big fan of tactical retreats myself. :p

Ekco
01-26-2025, 06:59 PM
I'm a big fan of tactical retreats myself. :p

weapon grade ones i would assume would, yes. lol.

like where's your logical footing on this, do you think there isn't a bio weapons arms race going on thats decades old at this point? that ethnic bio-weapons don't exist? the same logic that caused the west to research the no no weapons in ww2 and the cold war still apply today, champ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 07:03 PM
i'm waiting for more internet cable attacks in Europe to happen.

Actually russia cut their own cable and blew up their own piplines and covid was designed by god.

https://i.imgur.com/dqx965d.png

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 07:03 PM
weapon grade ones i would assume would, yes. lol.

like where's your logical footing on this, do you think there isn't a bio weapons arms race going on thats decades old at this point? that ethnic bio-weapons don't exist? the same logic that caused the west to research the no no weapons in ww2 and the cold war still apply today, champ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon

Oh my, no. The time for debate has passed. :p

Ekco
01-26-2025, 07:39 PM
Oh my, no. The time for debate has passed. :p

i see. war is just high level debate club anyway
https://c.tenor.com/js3-V5Lqiw8AAAAd/tenor.gif

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 10:28 PM
The desire to squash the Wuhan lab theory was rooted in anti racism.

So we were like, "oh they eat living bats and drink swamp water" instead of "they are very capable scientists."

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 10:44 PM
The desire to squash the Wuhan lab theory was rooted in anti racism. Fears of racist backlash against china, who at the we were still holding out hope for The Martian book's depiction of a US & China utopia.

So we were like, "oh they eat living bats and drink swamp water" instead of "they are very capable scientists."

Folktale.

There's a virology lab in your nearest city at the university.

That there is a lab nearby is not evidence of anything.

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 10:46 PM
If a virus came from my city it would certainly be more believable than a homeless man bit someone and everyone became zombies because of climate change.

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 10:47 PM
If a virus came from my city it would certainly be more believable than a homeless man bit someone and everyone became zombies because of climate change.

That sounds like rabies. Do you have rabies?

That's the second case on this forum. Off Topic is an incubator.

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 10:57 PM
"you think it came from a bat eating wet market? Or a high tech lab leak?"

"wuhan? Def bat eating wet market, no way a lab"

the wet market:

https://i.imgur.com/rxLvIZZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/MhZI6kx.png

https://i.imgur.com/lNjtqb1.png

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 11:10 PM
"you think it came from a bat eating wet market? Or a high tech lab leak?"

"wuhan? Def bat eating wet market, no way a lab"

the wet market:

https://i.imgur.com/rxLvIZZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/MhZI6kx.png

https://i.imgur.com/lNjtqb1.png

"You don't believe the Chinese propaganda?"

"How about some Chinese propaganda images? Checkmate."

shovelquest
01-26-2025, 11:11 PM
Even china would want to keep it secret if they did covid look at how many people they'd have killed if it was as bad as we thought it was when the democrats told us to ruin our lives to save them.

FvN4rm5sdsk

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 11:30 PM
Actually russia cut their own cable and blew up their own piplines and covid was designed by god.

https://i.imgur.com/dqx965d.png

I think we're in agreement it was clearly the Ukes? :(

Reiwa
01-26-2025, 11:33 PM
Cocaine land bends the knee (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-pauses-colombia-tariffs-sanctions-plan-after-agreement-2025-01-27/)

I guess they thought he was just fucking around.

Reiwa
01-27-2025, 12:55 AM
Cocaine manifesto

Trump, I don’t like traveling to the U.S. much, it’s a bit boring, but I confess there are worthy things. I like to go to the Black neighborhoods of Washington. There, I saw a whole fight in the capital of the U.S. between Blacks and Latinos, with barricades, which seemed to me like nonsense, because they should unite.

I confess that I like Walt Whitman, Paul Simon, Noam Chomsky, and Miller.

I confess that Sacco and Vanzetti, who have my blood, in the history of the U.S., are memorable and I follow them. They were murdered for being labor leaders with the electric chair by the fascists who are inside the U.S. just as they are in my country.

I don’t like your oil, Trump, you are going to end the human species with greed. Maybe one day, along with a drink of whisky—which I accept despite my gastritis—we can talk frankly about this, but it’s difficult because you consider me an inferior race, and I am not, nor is any Colombian.

So if you are looking for a stubborn person, that’s me, period. You can try to stage a coup with your economic power and arrogance, like you did with Allende. But I will die by my law, I withstood torture, and I resist you. I don’t want slave owners on Colombia’s side, we already had many and we freed ourselves. Who I want to be on Colombia’s side are lovers of freedom. If you can’t join me, I will go elsewhere. Colombia is the heart of the world, and you didn’t understand it. This is the land of the yellow butterflies, the beauty of Remedios, but also of Colonel Aureliano Buendía, one of whom I am, perhaps the last.

You will kill me, but I will survive in my town, which came before yours, in the Americas. We are peoples of the winds, the mountains, the Caribbean Sea, and freedom.

You don’t like our freedom, fine. I do not shake hands with white slave owners. I shake the hands of libertarian whites, heirs of Lincoln, and of the Black and white rural boys from the U.S., in front of whose graves I cried and prayed on a battlefield, which I reached after walking through the mountains of Tuscany and after saving myself from COVID.

They are the US, and before them, I kneel, before no one else.

Overthrow me president, and the Americas and humanity will respond.

Colombia, now stop looking to the north, look to the world, our blood comes from the blood of the Caliphate of Córdoba, the civilization of that time, from the Roman Latins of the Mediterranean, the civilization of that time, who founded the republic, democracy in Athens; our blood carries the resistant Black people who were turned into slaves by you. In Colombia lies the first free territory of the Americas, before Washington, of all the Americas, I take refuge there in their African songs.

My land is of the goldsmiths that existed in the time of the Egyptian pharaohs, and of the first artists in the world in Chiribiquete.

You will never dominate us. The warrior who rode our lands, shouting freedom, and who is called Bolívar, opposes you.

Our peoples are somewhat fearful, somewhat shy, they are naive and kind, lovers, but they will know how to win back the Panama Canal, which you took from us with violence. Two hundred heroes from all over Latin America lie in Bocas del Toro, now Panama, before Colombia, whom you murdered.

I raise a flag, and as Gaitán said, even if I am alone, it will remain raised with Latin American dignity, which is the dignity of America, which your great-grandfather didn’t know, but mine did, Mr. President, immigrant in the US.

Your blockade does not scare me because Colombia, in addition to being the country of beauty, is the heart of the world. I know you love beauty as I do, don’t disrespect it, and it will offer you its sweetness.

COLOMBIA FROM NOW ON FACES THE WHOLE WORLD, WITH OPEN ARMS, WE ARE BUILDERS OF FREEDOM, LIFE, AND HUMANITY.

I have been informed that you impose a 50% tariff on the fruit of our human labor to enter the US, I will do the same.

Let our people plant corn, which was discovered in Colombia, and feed the world.

shovelquest
01-27-2025, 01:19 AM
Overthrow 🤣

Reiwa
01-27-2025, 01:39 AM
It would be a great cathartic moment for the nation to continually embarass South American nations as they attempt to refuse our flights.

Except Argentina. I think they will play ball. Let's check back in a week.

shovelquest
01-27-2025, 01:47 AM
man im rednoted this place is way better than us wtf even their games are like totally nuts.

SfPcWs2pOS0

Reiwa
01-27-2025, 01:51 AM
man im rednoted this place is way better than us wtf even their games are like totally nuts.

SfPcWs2pOS0

That looks amazing.

Do I have to join the party to play it?

Trexller
01-27-2025, 04:33 AM
lying about paper masks being effective to keep the drool cups from losing their minds and killing eachother at the grocery store

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/aa/c4/f9aac460bbb2bc9e1e33c2bbeec7ac13.gif

Ekco
01-27-2025, 04:46 AM
"You don't believe the Chinese propaganda?"

"How about some Chinese propaganda images? Checkmate."

when you consume both sides propaganda it kinda evens out and as someone into the blade runner dystopian athestic, i'd rather live in Chongqing than Akihabara in japan.

fuckin place looks AI generated
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Chongqing_Nightscape.jpg/800px-Chongqing_Nightscape.jpg

3IGTiFuDjTI

shovelquest
01-27-2025, 12:38 PM
Nice pictures of china are propaganda.

Meanwhile...

VISIT THE BEUTIFUL US COAST

https://i.imgur.com/No0vTr5.png

shovelquest
01-27-2025, 06:17 PM
:o

https://i.imgur.com/cniCyCJ.png

(buy nvidia at the dip tho)

Ekco
01-27-2025, 06:20 PM
someone hacked/DDos deepseek a couple hours ago also lol

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/deepseek-limits-registrations-due-cyber-attack-2025-01-27/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/27/deepseek-cyberattack-ai

shovelquest
01-27-2025, 06:23 PM
someone

https://i.imgur.com/e4adLhh.png

Ekco
01-27-2025, 06:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xgEj93s.png

saw another funny tweet from someone saying Nvida might be forced to pivot to making affordable GPUs for gamers now

Duik
01-27-2025, 09:36 PM
Luckily you all have billions of dollars pouring into A.I from the TechBros In Chief to compete against the < 6 million china needed.

Lolocaust.

shovelquest
01-27-2025, 11:46 PM
Luckily you all have billions of dollars pouring into A.I from the TechBros In Chief to compete against the < 6 million china needed.

Lolocaust.

Thankfully Biden bailed out the silicon valley banks amiright?!?

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 12:54 AM
Thankfully Biden bailed out the silicon valley banks amiright?!?

California gets a bailout every year. A lot of states do.

We should really not be doing this dual sovereign crap.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 01:10 AM
California gets a bailout every year. A lot of states do.

We should really not be doing this dual sovereign crap.

https://i.imgur.com/J7opEcC.png

stop trying to convince me the status quo is good when all of this is it.

*motions at everything

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 01:36 AM
https://i.imgur.com/J7opEcC.png

stop trying to convince me the status quo is good when all of this is it.

*motions at everything

It's a corollary to the notion that some set of states bail out or carry another set of states.

We are all Americans.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 01:44 AM
It's a corollary to the notion that some set of states bail out or carry another set of states.

We are all Americans.

this had nothing to do with states, or California, this was a private bank with private investors and the fear of them defaulting and causing (the above (https://project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3717947&postcount=371)) was enough to have the white house write a check for 20 billion dollars to help those that the $250k insurance wasn't enough to cover their loss. It was a shameful mask off moment for the billionaire oligarch democrats (who have more billionaire than republicans let alone MAGA has in their corner).

This has nothing to do wtih states or whatever mumbjo jumbo you're trying to handwave and (as Duik always puts it) shill for the billionares.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 01:49 AM
this had nothing to do with states, or California, this was a private bank with private investors and the fear of them defaulting and causing (the above (https://project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3717947&postcount=371)) was enough to have the white house write a check for 20 billion dollars to help those that the $250k insurance wasn't enough to cover their loss. It was a shameful mask off moment for the billionaire oligarch democrats (who have more billionaire than republicans let alone MAGA has in their corner).

This has nothing to do wtih states or whatever mumbjo jumbo you're trying to handwave and (as Duik always puts it) shill for the billionares.

I like to shill for the billionaires. They get too much flack from people who are very dumb.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 01:55 AM
well there are good billionaires and bad ones and those are the bad ones and they basically just got their political donations returned to them with interest care of USGOV.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 02:06 AM
well there are good billionaires and bad ones and those are the bad ones and they basically just got their political donations returned to them with interest care of USGOV.

NASA costs 15 billion and nobody makes any money from it.

Lune
01-28-2025, 02:57 AM
well there are good billionaires and bad ones and those are the bad ones and they basically just got their political donations returned to them with interest care of USGOV.

The mere status of being a billionaire is unethical. Such a concentration of wealth only occurs through the aggregate suffering and exploitation of masses of people who sell their labor to survive. Additionally, such wealth affords far too much concentration of power in one actor. There isn't a fortune in Earth's history that wasn't accumulated through anticompetitive practices or skullduggery of some kind, dating back to the first douchebag who bribed the island king for exclusive rights to all the coconut trees.

Even with billionaires who are dedicated to giving away all their wealth-- fortunes made on the backs of labor is directed at the pet interests and whimsy of one person, rather than the wants and needs of the body politic.

Every miserable maggoty ducat in excess of $1billion in realized or unrealized wealth and income should be taxed at 100% and used to pay union dues. Maybe give them a big marble neon scoreboard in Washington DC where they get their name etched among the Winners of Capitalism with a fountain people can throw coins in

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 03:09 AM
The mere status of being a billionaire is unethical. Such a concentration of wealth only occurs through the aggregate suffering and exploitation of masses of people who sell their labor to survive. Additionally, such wealth affords far too much concentration of power in one actor. There isn't a fortune in Earth's history that wasn't accumulated through anticompetitive practices or skullduggery of some kind, dating back to the first douchebag who bribed the island king for exclusive rights to all the coconut trees.

Even with billionaires who are dedicated to giving away all their wealth-- fortunes made on the backs of labor is directed at the pet interests and whimsy of one person, rather than the wants and needs of the body politic.

Every miserable maggoty ducat in excess of $1billion in realized or unrealized wealth and income should be taxed at 100% and used to pay union dues. Maybe give them a big marble neon scoreboard in Washington DC where they get their name etched among the Winners of Capitalism with a fountain people can throw coins in

I get that you're retarded, but the notion that the value of labor is being stolen hasn't existed as a legitimate idea in economic philosophy for a very long time and for good reason.

And even if it was, the current way would still be better overall.

Lune
01-28-2025, 03:15 AM
I get that you're retarded, but the notion that the value of labor is being stolen hasn't existed as a legitimate idea in economic philosophy for a very long time and for good reason.

And even if it was, the current way would still be better overall.

Meditate on the fact that early attempts to unionize and bargain collectively were met with literal military force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain), and the fact that Western oligarchies across the world continue to import millions of economic migrants in order to depress the cost and value of labor--in spite of widespread, grassroots public outcry that has now destabilized the world's largest economy-- and then come back and tell me the value of labor isn't being stolen.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 03:16 AM
Meditate on the fact that early attempts to unionize and bargain collectively were met with literal military force, and the fact that Western oligarchies across the world continue to import millions of economic migrants in order to depress the cost and value of labor--in spite of widespread, grassroots public outcry that has now destabilized the world's largest economy-- and then come back and tell me the value of labor isn't being stolen.

No meditation needed. I'm always at full manna from Heaven.

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Lune
01-28-2025, 03:18 AM
Economics is not a science.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 03:18 AM
We conquered bread a long time ago.

And then we conquered the lack of employment opportunities.

Our biggest problem now is the inverse - too much work and too few workers.

Thanks Obama.

Duik
01-28-2025, 03:20 AM
Thankfully Biden bailed out the silicon valley banks amiright?!?

I dont care either way. You all carry on about both sides da same what do I care.

Although Silicone Valley Banks sounds like an 80's chick rock band lineup.

Botten
01-28-2025, 11:00 AM
It is amazing how much the Orange team is lapping up Tariffs as to the fix of costs for everything.

Tariffs if enacted is just a messy resulting tax on the American people. Especially on energy, coffee, car parts and computer technology to exporting countries.

Causing too much world turmoil will just cause Japan, China and the UK to sell off their US debt making us look like chumps as our economy crashes and burns.

Furthermore the Orange rump is creating a separate External Revenue Service to collect tariffs on imports to further fool his uneducated voters.

He only cares about filling 'that coffer' as further excuses to pull a reverse Robinhood in tax reliefs to the rich.

The Orange menace's mismanagement of Covid bankrupted us to the tune of 16 Trillion and he is setting it up again.

1dJ6rIggrFc

Ekco
01-28-2025, 11:09 AM
that's a whole bunch of word salad to cope with the fact they are more likely than not to crush in the midterms also.

like you mother cuckers never heard of “If you're explaining, you're losing.” and that dude literally had dementia when he opined that shit.

take your own full blown panic advice before the election and stop being "werid"

Ekco
01-28-2025, 11:12 AM
nobody wants to talk about how NATO is gonna get their ass kicked over Taiwan within the next 2 years?

make sure to buy a new gfx card before we lose access to where 90% of them come from lol

https://i.imgur.com/MzEzo81.png


lol. i assumed China would be the one fucking us on that, not ourselves. good job democrats

Ekco
01-28-2025, 11:20 AM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:fo4jc4crbozk36teck4dqcst/bafkreibk3cuy5v2uv5b6d7rz6nrnpqdnhdtco7mckutvvitq5 ny5vg32a4@jpeg

"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it." - Admiral Josh Painter

i hate the human race so god damn much it's insane.

Botten
01-28-2025, 12:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MzEzo81.png


lol. i assumed China would be the one fucking us on that, not ourselves. good job democrats

You can't scapegoat democrats. The Orange man has always made outlandish statements to spook the market.

There is no economic winning in threatening our allies.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 01:13 PM
It is amazing how much the Orange team is lapping up Tariffs as to the fix of costs for everything.

Tariffs if enacted is just a messy resulting tax on the American people. Especially on energy, coffee, car parts and computer technology to exporting countries.

Causing too much world turmoil will just cause Japan, China and the UK to sell off their US debt making us look like chumps as our economy crashes and burns.

Furthermore the Orange rump is creating a separate External Revenue Service to collect tariffs on imports to further fool his uneducated voters.

He only cares about filling 'that coffer' as further excuses to pull a reverse Robinhood in tax reliefs to the rich.

The Orange menace's mismanagement of Covid bankrupted us to the tune of 16 Trillion and he is setting it up again.

1dJ6rIggrFc

Revenue is goin' up - can you say 'tax cuts'!? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ogibWCNKI)

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 01:24 PM
that's a whole bunch of word salad to cope with the fact they are more likely than not to crush in the midterms also.

like you mother cuckers never heard of “If you're explaining, you're losing.” and that dude literally had dementia when he opined that shit.

take your own full blown panic advice before the election and stop being "werid"

Run the table in the tossups and the upper chamber still doesn't flip. Hm.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 01:40 PM
It is amazing how much the Orange team is lapping up Tariffs as to the fix of costs for everything.

Only democrats say that, we clearly say: the reduction in gas price will lower the cost of food.

Not "in 8 days trump will magically transform the economy"

You cry about how tariffs.

But you want more carbon taxes.

Shut. UP!

Ciderpress
01-28-2025, 01:41 PM
Everyone is currently scrambling to showcase why they are the one who truly understands tarrifs, a word they probably first heard like 2 months ago. You see, tarrifs are very bad things that only hurt americans, and trump is either too stupid/evil to understand that, unlike me who is obviously very smart/good.

TLDR: They're a negotiating tactic, and they seem to be working if colombia is any indication.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 01:48 PM
Tariffs if enacted is just a messy resulting tax on the American people.

its. the. exact. same. thing. as. a. carbon. tax.

Except it rewards people that bring jobs to USA.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 01:49 PM
its. the. exact. same. thing. as. a. carbon. tax.

With a carbon tax you get an indulgence. Because you're a good person.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 01:49 PM
You can't scapegoat democrats.

the fuck i can't.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 01:50 PM
With a carbon tax you get an indulgence. Because you're a good person.

:o

https://i.imgur.com/xSqqsdB.png

But... with tariffs you bring jobs back to America, like a good person would want.

https://i.imgur.com/37dkWrp.png

Ekco
01-28-2025, 01:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/agenpfE.png

Botten
01-28-2025, 01:55 PM
Everyone is currently scrambling to showcase why they are the one who truly understands tarrifs, a word they probably first heard like 2 months ago. You see, tarrifs are very bad things that only hurt americans, and trump is either too stupid/evil to understand that, unlike me who is obviously very smart/good.

TLDR: They're a negotiating tactic, and they seem to be working if colombia is any indication.

Tariffs are well understood.

Colombia was a security bluff and not an economic bluff.

Tariffs have failed in the past soy bean farms... &

MckCZ9iLAyI

Except it rewards people that bring jobs to USA.

We don't have the infrastructure to make this change and no one is going to work these jobs that pay too little, while the products still don't compete.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 01:57 PM
We don't have the infrastructure to make this change and no one is going to work these jobs that pay too little, while the products still don't compete.

1. those jobs pay too little because you let slaves do them.
2. min wage would be equal with inflation if you didn't ship jobs overseas.

It. is. racist. to. say. white. people. wont. do. the. jobs. you. make. 3rd. world. people. do.

I don't care about how divine you think we are, we are not above anyone else. And we will do the same jobs anyone else will.

Botten
01-28-2025, 02:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/agenpfE.png

Deepseek's code was released to the public. -.-

If it doesn't meet expectation or was a complete copy of ChatGPT

"They going to know..

Nobodies going to know...

They going to know."

Ciderpress
01-28-2025, 02:01 PM
I'm genuinely curious for botten to pose a hypothetical in which a tariff would be a good thing. I've noticed every other developed country in the world utilizes them in one form or another. Why are they all using such a dumb bad thing?

Ekco
01-28-2025, 02:02 PM
Deepseek's code was released to the public. -.-

If it doesn't meet expectation or was a complete copy of ChatGPT

"They going to know..

Nobodies going to know...

They going to know."

it's just a kung fu joke my guy. don't overthink shit.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 02:02 PM
I'm genuinely curious for botten to pose a hypothetical in which a tariff would be a good thing. I've noticed every other developed country in the world utilizes them in one form or another. Why are they all using such a dumb bad thing?

Try calling it a carbon tax. See how quickly he thinks we should impose more.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 02:04 PM
he's pro EV tariffs, he has to be. can't not comply with the party line on that side.

they might be against them now though considering the dude they put them in place for switched sides cause his gay son won't speak to him.

Botten
01-28-2025, 02:04 PM
1. those jobs pay too little because you let slaves do them.
2. min wage would be equal with inflation if you didn't ship jobs overseas.

It. is. racist. to. say. white. people. wont. do. the. jobs. you. make. 3rd. world. people. do.

I don't care about how divine you think we are, we are not above anyone else. And we will do the same jobs anyone else will.

You just have to start paying a livable wage, and stop trying to convince me the only way to have affordable prices is slavery.

1. Like private prisons?

2. You aren't being practical; you are still anything to own the libs mode. We are too far past this point and no planning has been done to bring back those jobs that no one wants. The orange man just wants these Tariffs to be seen as a collection from foreign countries when it is a collection from us taxpayers. His goal is tax relief for himself and his rich friends.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 02:07 PM
while the products still don't compete.

this part is true though.

Ciderpress
01-28-2025, 02:09 PM
1. Like private prisons?

2. You aren't being practical; you are still anything to own the libs mode. We are too far past this point and no planning has been done to bring back those jobs that no one wants. The orange man just wants these Tariffs to be seen as a collection from foreign countries when it is a collection for us taxpayers. His goal is tax relief for himself and his rich friends.

Yeah he wants to make more money by becoming president and thus making far less money than he was before running for president, twice. That dog doesn't really hunt anymore man. It's right up there with elon musk being just a greedy rich guy even though he intentionally lost like 30bil buying twitter, purely out of principle.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 02:09 PM
The orange man just wants these Tariffs to be seen as a collection from foreign countries when it is a collection from us taxpayers.

It's only a collection from us taxpayers if we buy the treason-goods.

Buy Union, Buy American. 🫡🇺🇸⭐

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 02:09 PM
1. Like private prisons?

2. You aren't being practical; you are still anything to own the libs mode. We are too far past this point and no planning has been done to bring back those jobs that no one wants. The orange man just wants these Tariffs to be seen as a collection from foreign countries when it is a collection from us taxpayers. His goal is tax relief for himself and his rich friends.

There is no such thing as a country incapable of manufacturing goods.

it took 25 years to turn china from a literal 3rd world hell with more mass deaths from starvation than any country in history... to arguably one of the most powerful countries in the world.

I would much rather live through 25 years of doing that to america, than filling the streets with homeless drug addicts and unemployed coders.

We. Need. Jobs.

We are not some divine species that is too good to do labor, so we need people from 3rd world counties to do it.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 02:12 PM
Yeah he wants to make more money by becoming president and thus making far less money than he was before running for president, twice. That dog doesn't really hunt anymore man. It's right up there with elon musk being just a greedy rich guy even though he intentionally lost like 30bil buying twitter, purely out of principle.

that's borderline retarded my dude. even if you believe the tv persona of his financial numbers, being POTUS is going to literally 10, 20x that shit.

dude made millions off fucking sneakers and NFTs alone, how much money do you think a golf course actually makes lol.

word is that silkroad guy is going to pay him like 50 BTC for being pardoned. that's 5 million for signing his name on a document.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 02:15 PM
His goal is tax relief for himself and his rich friends.

he will not give them 1/10th what they got during the biden administration.

They got literally 4 trillion. + a little 20 billion bonus bailout for those that the 250k insurance on their Ai investments would have lost because they SUCKED at investing.

If there were NO taxes, the billionares would get less from the goverment than they got from the biden admin.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 02:16 PM
>BREAKING NEWS: WATCH LIVE: Trump press secretary Karoline Leavitt holds first briefing

the press sec is actually a fuckable woman again, america is healing.

bitch just said the drones over NJ were authorized to be there lol

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 02:21 PM
His goal is tax relief for himself and his rich friends.

That must be why the standard deduction was doubled and the SALT deduction was capped.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 02:22 PM
We have to stop trying to fix the worlds problems, and realize we have our own to take care of.

We act like we're literally divine in this country. Like only our way of life matters. Only we can manage anything.

We are above "working" that is for people of third world countries.

How is this belief system any different than the democrat belief system of the 1700s about manifest destiny and slavery?

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 02:24 PM
>BREAKING NEWS: WATCH LIVE: Trump press secretary Karoline Leavitt holds first briefing

the press sec is actually a fuckable woman again, america is healing.

bitch just said the drones over NJ were authorized to be there lol

Fake blonde check the brows.

Ciderpress
01-28-2025, 02:34 PM
that's borderline retarded my dude. even if you believe the tv persona of his financial numbers, being POTUS is going to literally 10, 20x that shit.

dude made millions off fucking sneakers and NFTs alone, how much money do you think a golf course actually makes lol.

word is that silkroad guy is going to pay him like 50 BTC for being pardoned. that's 5 million for signing his name on a document.

Well then call me skeptical that he's willing to endure an unprecedented risk of assassination not to mentioning the myriad headaches of leading any country, much less the US, all in order to... what, inflate his net worth? Dude could have been living on easy street on an island somewhere in perpetuity like 30 years ago.

Doesn't explain the elon question either. Rich people can still act out of principle, I know that's somehow gauche to even suggest.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 02:38 PM
Fake blonde check the brows.

her shitposting skills are pretty good though.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 02:38 PM
Trump: I want to be remembered for my achievements, not my personal wealth.

The people: He's only in it to enrich himself and his friends!

*immediately gives 500 billion to his best friends biggest competitors

Ciderpress
01-28-2025, 02:41 PM
KJP was/is super hot imo btw. And not only because she's a lesbian and thus unattainable.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 02:46 PM
Trump: I want to be remembered for my achievements, not my personal wealth.

The people: He's only in it to enrich himself and his friends!

*immediately gives 500 billion to his best friends biggest competitors

It's private money lol. Government contributes by agreeing to pretend to not notice their imminent rule-breaking.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 02:46 PM
KJP was/is super hot imo btw. And not only because she's a lesbian and thus unattainable.

https://i.imgur.com/2iFFMLU.png

Ekco
01-28-2025, 02:46 PM
Well then call me skeptical that he's willing to endure an unprecedented risk of assassination not to mentioning the myriad headaches of leading any country, much less the US, all in order to... what, inflate his net worth? Dude could have been living on easy street on an island somewhere in perpetuity like 30 years ago.

Doesn't explain the elon question either. Rich people can still act out of principle, I know that's somehow gauche to even suggest.

your basically asking me to explain to you the same incentives that cause people to become rich and successful in the first place, somehow don't apply to also wanting power and being the main character on planet fucking earth.

the notion you think any of these personality archetypes could ever be happy in obscurity on a island somewhere indicates you have no fucking concept of what motivates these people.

after like 50 million it doesn't do anything for your ego, it's why all these dudes are so active in the space race and other shit. but the scoreboard past 100 million is boring to them. even yesterday where the Oracle guy lost like 8 billion and zuckerberg went up 4, neither of them actually felt anything from that on a emotional level.

money doesn't buy happiness, power apparently at least makes you feel something.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 02:49 PM
your basically asking me to explain to you the same incentives that cause people to become rich and successful in the first place, somehow don't apply to also wanting power and being the main character on planet fucking earth.

So MLK, ghandi, Obama, Jesus, and a wealthy people are the same: greedy and just want power.

Got it!

Ciderpress
01-28-2025, 02:51 PM
your basically asking me to explain to you the same incentives that cause people to become rich and successful in the first place, somehow don't apply to also wanting power and being the main character on planet fucking earth.

the notion you think any of these personality archetypes could ever be happy in obscurity on a island somewhere indicates you have no fucking concept of what motivates these people.

after like 50 million it doesn't do anything for your ego, it's why all these dudes are so active in the space race and other shit. but the scoreboard past 100 million is boring to them. even yesterday where the Oracle guy lost like 8 billion and zuckerberg went up 4, neither of them actually felt anything from that on a emotional level.

money doesn't buy happiness, power apparently at least makes you feel something.

Well, we are both accusing one another of having the power of mind-reading. I am not a multi-billionaire, and I assume you aren't either. So all you or I can really do is speculate about the content of these people's minds and hearts. And if the purely cynical take is correct, it seems to me it would apply to every single public servant ever. I'm sure firefighters want to be thought of as some kind of relevant main character also.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 02:53 PM
50 million it doesn't do anything for your ego,

This is such bullshit.

You know who says this? People who haven't made 1 million let alone 50.

No... I live a life of luxury. I sleep in a big bed. watch netflix. Eat great food.

Do you catch me not complaining about my shit life? No.

Do you see me going, youj know what, I can downsize from 5 rooms to 3, so i can help more people. No.

So why do you think that if you had 6 rooms or 60, it's any different?

If I was a billionare, I would be as accustomed to that way of life, as I am accustomed to my curreent way of life, that about half the world would be as far from as I am from a billionare.

So no, there is no "at a certain point its enough"... it's not, those people are just living their lives the way you are, and they are above you economically, as you are above others, as those others are above others etc.. and nobody, is sacrificing their way of life for the people below them, except religious figures.

And Donald Trump.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 02:55 PM
So MLK, ghandi, Obama, Jesus, and a wealthy people are the same: greedy and just want power.

Got it!



Obama was a anti gay marriage neolib who went up like 2 tax brackets from hope & change bumper stickers. fucked over poor people with ACA by forcing them to pay a tax while already being fucked over by student loans because big pharma cut a deal with him and the democrats to deep six the public option.

MLK got shot by a racist, so not much power there, espcially when you consider the left isn't even pro a colorblind society anymore so you could literally argue he died for nothing.

ghandi - idk i'm not indian

Jesus - i'm not even sure he existed.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 02:58 PM
So no, there is no "at a certain point its enough"... it's not,

is it, and your denying science by claiming otherwise. also every rich fuck will tell you the money doesn't mean shit after awhile.

once your past having to worry about groceries and bills and how much shit costs. your relationship with money changes instantly and most of them have an external crisis about the thing that actually matters. time. and how much of it they have left.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 03:03 PM
I agree wealth caps would be better for society.

I’m just saying a billionaire perceives his wealth the same way you perceive yours.

And to half the world you’re a billionaire, and that’s the proof I’m right because you could downsize to help someone.

Expecting someone you perceive to be a billionaire to give up their wealth is ignoring the fact that you don’t so why expect them?

At least MAGA chuds are willing to take the tariff hit to bring jobs home… notice the group that isn’t…

Ekco
01-28-2025, 03:06 PM
Well, we are both accusing one another of having the power of mind-reading. I am not a multi-billionaire, and I assume you aren't either. So all you or I can really do is speculate about the content of these people's minds and hearts. And if the purely cynical take is correct, it seems to me it would apply to every single public servant ever. I'm sure firefighters want to be thought of as some kind of relevant main character also.

there is literally hundreds of books and psychological studies on this exact subject going back
decades.

this is some literal common knowledge shit, even by American common core standards

According to psychology, while money can contribute to happiness by providing access to basic needs and security, research suggests that beyond a certain point, simply having more money does not necessarily lead to significantly greater happiness

Certainly, here are several research papers and books that explore the relationship between money and happiness:

Research Papers:

"Income and emotional well-being: Evidence for well-being plateauing around $200,000 per year" (2023) by Mikkel Bennedsen. This study investigates whether emotional well-being increases with income or reaches a plateau at a certain threshold, finding evidence of a plateau around $200,000 per year.
ARXIV

"Money Does Not Always Buy Happiness, but Are Richer People Happier?" (2022). This research examines whether individuals with higher incomes experience greater happiness in their daily activities, noting that some prior studies found no relationship between income and daily happiness.
PMC

"Does more money correlate with greater happiness?" (2023) by researchers from Penn and Princeton. This study reconciles previous contradictory results, finding a steady association between larger incomes and greater happiness for most people, but a rise and plateau for an unhappy minority.
PENN TODAY

"Money and happiness: A consideration of history and psychological science" (2023). This paper discusses evidence that wealth is more strongly associated with life satisfaction than household income and explores the relationship between wealth, its sources, and the well-being it can provide.
PMC

"If Money Doesn't Make You Happy Then You Probably Aren't Spending It Right" (2010). This paper suggests that while money can buy happiness, it does so less effectively than most people think, and offers insights into how to spend money in ways that enhance happiness.
HARVARD SCHOLAR

Books:

"The Psychology of Money: Timeless lessons on wealth, greed, and happiness" by Morgan Housel. This book offers insights into the psychological aspects of wealth and provides lessons on how to manage money effectively.
AMAZON.COM

"Happy Money: The Science of Happier Spending" by Elizabeth Dunn and Michael Norton. This book explores how individuals can use their money to increase happiness, emphasizing the importance of spending on experiences and others.

"The Art of Money: A Life-Changing Guide to Financial Happiness" by Bari Tessler. This guide leads readers through a journey to transform their relationship with money, combining emotional and practical financial education.
AMAZON.COM

"Happy Money: The Japanese Art of Making Peace with Your Money" by Ken Honda. This book delves into developing a positive relationship with money, focusing on the concept of "happy money" and how to achieve financial peace.

"You're a Badass at Making Money" by Jen Sincero. This book combines personal anecdotes and practical advice to help readers overcome financial obstacles and develop a healthier relationship with money.

apparently the studies done in the last 3 years are taking the other side of issue, idk but still that one study showing 200k is insane and since i'm not gonna read any of this shit anyway im gonna assume the recent papers are contrarian on purpose for the solo goal of getting people to read their boring fucking paper

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 03:08 PM
Money doesn’t buy happiness, but being poor is suffering.

Like for example, when a rich guy jumps out the window because he lost all his money it’s not because he’s sad. It’s because he knows that he’s going to suffer greaty and compared to his old life he’d rather be dead.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 03:11 PM
I’m just saying a billionaire perceives his wealth the same way you perceive yours.


in a numbers go up "that's good" way yeah, going from zero to millionaire is way easier though and your happiness per dollar earned is going to effect you way more than when you get past a billion your interest switches to weird shit like buying politicians and and colonizing mars

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 03:12 PM
Actualy to put it more honestly....

I think it's more because he was living a life of compeition, and judgment, and upon losing everything knows that he lost the competition, and the judgement of his peers is so great that he'd rather be dead.

Sounds fucking happy to me, ffs. No thanks.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 03:14 PM
in a numbers go up "that's good" way yeah, going from zero to millionaire is way easier though and your happiness per dollar earned is going to effect you way more than when you get past a billion your interest switches to weird shit like buying politicians and and colonizing mars

It was as difficult for me to make my meager living as it would be for me to become a billionaire.

I got here mostly by luck, and timing, and risking everything I had.

If I had started with 10 million and made the exact same choices, I'd be a billionaire.

Buying your first home for a poor person is just as difficult as a rich person going from millionare to billionare.

NopeNopeNopeNope
01-28-2025, 03:18 PM
If we are operating from the assumption that we are prioritizing deportations based on past criminal activity, going from the top down most serious offenses….

…then it is completely understandable that their home countries won’t want to accept them

U.S.A.: “Hey guys we have a serial rapist gang member who’s here illegally, we’re sending them back ok?”

Home country: “Nah we’re good on rapist gang members. But thanks anyway!”


I mean why WOULDN’T it play out like that every time???

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 03:25 PM
If we are operating from the assumption that we are prioritizing deportations based on past criminal activity, going from the top down most serious offenses….

…then it is completely understandable that their home countries won’t want to accept them

U.S.A.: “Hey guys we have a serial rapist gang member who’s here illegally, we’re sending them back ok?”

Home country: “Nah we’re good on rapist gang members. But thanks anyway!”

I mean why WOULDN’T it play out like that every time???

Well, we can bus them to Kansas.

https://i.imgur.com/nLuZsbh.png

Ekco
01-28-2025, 03:26 PM
It was as difficult for me to make my meager living as it would be for me to become a billionaire.


it's all chance and the system self corrects in 3 generations usually. only family that did it smart is the one with that crazy trust fund setup

most powerful families end up like that dude who works at CNN losing 99% of their wealth and 100% of their power

The proverb “shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations” is a translation of a Scottish proverb and other similar sayings from around the world. It's often attributed to Andrew Carnegie, a Scottish-born American industrialist, but it doesn't appear in his writings.

Ciderpress
01-28-2025, 03:31 PM
If we are operating from the assumption that we are prioritizing deportations based on past criminal activity, going from the top down most serious offenses….

…then it is completely understandable that their home countries won’t want to accept them

U.S.A.: “Hey guys we have a serial rapist gang member who’s here illegally, we’re sending them back ok?”

Home country: “Nah we’re good on rapist gang members. But thanks anyway!”


I mean why WOULDN’T it play out like that every time???

Honestly I could respect that argument coming from the country having their criminals returned if they said what you just said. Instead it's like "no we will not accept these people who we totally think are great because it's really YOU who are the bad guy trying to protect your own people from our criminals." or some horseshit sophistry like that.

Once they start saying "nah we don't want our own horrible criminals back" in something like those words, I'll be on their side.

Ciderpress
01-28-2025, 03:49 PM
Such is the state of the modern mind with regard to western civilization; total incoherence. "You've never done anything good, and we've never done anything bad, and that's why everyone wants to live in your country instead of ours."

Por que?

Botten
01-28-2025, 03:49 PM
Trump: I want to be remembered for my achievements, not my personal wealth.

The people: He's only in it to enrich himself and his friends!

*immediately gives 500 billion to his best friends biggest competitors

Are you kidding the Orange man was on track to be put in jail and or bankrupt per Jack Smith and NYC trial. He HAD to run for presidency.

Even Elon himself said he was done for if the Orange man didn't win.

And Elon is addicted to twitter there are all kinds of videos on it even before he purchased the company. And Elon was pretty much made to purchase it due to his shenanigans.

Orange man's parties action are to stay in charge and to make him and his rich friend money in any means they can get away with.

The Orange man will make congress and senate obsolete regardless of party affiliation if he has the chance.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 04:07 PM
Orange man's parties action are to stay in charge and to make him and his rich friend money in any means they can get away with.

Sam Altman was literally campaigning against donald trump and is trumps best friends most dangerous competition.

Not only did trump give Altman more than he has given elon, ever, every dollar he gives to Altman, takes money away from elon.

On top of that, Biden wrote a check for 16 trillion dollars directly to multi millionaires and billionaires that donated to his campaign.

You're whole narrative is delusional and fake let alone inconsistent.

Trexller
01-28-2025, 04:10 PM
Imagine being so deluded that this is the world that you see

If you ever wondered what created the conditions for the rise of a man like trump, look within.

For it was you who did not demand better from your politicians, it was you who accepted weaponized compassion as a force of good, it was you who failed to ask critical questions about the narratives you are fed. It was you who plugged their ears and eyes, blind and deaf you marched in lockstep with one ideology: Anything but that, regardless of how bad everything else is.

It is you who demands authority of your life, as long as you do not have to be that authority.

You elected potus 47, you just didn't do it at the polling booth. You made everyone else do it on your behalf.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 04:25 PM
Imagine being so deluded that this is the world that you see

If you ever wondered what created the conditions for the rise of a man like trump, look within.

For it was you who did not demand better from your politicians, it was you who accepted weaponized compassion as a force of good, it was you who failed to ask critical questions about the narratives you are fed. It was you who plugged their ears and eyes, blind and deaf you marched in lockstep with one ideology: Anything but that, regardless of how bad everything else is.

It is you who demands authority of your life, as long as you do not have to be that authority.

You elected potus 47, you just didn't do it at the polling booth. You made everyone else do it on your behalf.

Nail on the head.

I didn't vote for anyone in 2016 because I thought the voters should chose who runs for president not the rich non elected officials.

And then in 2024 I voted for him because I just couldn't stand the idea of democrats thinking the current direction of party politics was working.

Good. Im glad democrats can't afford the cost of eggs. We already couldn't. Now get mad. But remember, it's just transitory, bitches!

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 04:28 PM
If we are operating from the assumption that we are prioritizing deportations based on past criminal activity, going from the top down most serious offenses….

…then it is completely understandable that their home countries won’t want to accept them

U.S.A.: “Hey guys we have a serial rapist gang member who’s here illegally, we’re sending them back ok?”

Home country: “Nah we’re good on rapist gang members. But thanks anyway!”


I mean why WOULDN’T it play out like that every time???

Birdie website told me the whole deal in the recent one was about putting leg shackles on them. They got what they wanted from us and MAGA declared victory.

Botten
01-28-2025, 04:30 PM
Sam Altman was literally campaigning against donald trump and is trumps best friends most dangerous competition.

Not only did trump give Altman more than he has given elon, ever, every dollar he gives to Altman, takes money away from elon.

On top of that, Biden wrote a check for 16 trillion dollars directly to multi millionaires and billionaires that donated to his campaign.

You're whole narrative is delusional and fake let alone inconsistent.

No Money from Trump has been given to Sam Altman.

AI "Was" being invested in.

That investment and data centers touted were coming even before the elections.
Trump had nothing to do with it. (https://www.citizen.org/news/biden-plan-to-build-ai-data-centers-could-hike-local-energy-bills/)

And by the way Softbank investment (https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/12/16/trump-softbank-ceo-masayoshi-son-announce-100bn-us-investment) has pulled a fast one on Trump in the past; during his last term.

By the way, with all this AI chaos you better believe $500 billion from investors has changed.

Deepseek just released more free open source graphical additions to their AI.

Botten
01-28-2025, 04:31 PM
Imagine being so deluded that this is the world that you see

If you ever wondered what created the conditions for the rise of a man like trump, look within.

For it was you who did not demand better from your politicians, it was you who accepted weaponized compassion as a force of good, it was you who failed to ask critical questions about the narratives you are fed. It was you who plugged their ears and eyes, blind and deaf you marched in lockstep with one ideology: Anything but that, regardless of how bad everything else is.

It is you who demands authority of your life, as long as you do not have to be that authority.

You elected potus 47, you just didn't do it at the polling booth. You made everyone else do it on your behalf.

Sounding a bit cult like. Not going to lie.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 04:34 PM
No Money from Trump has been given to Sam Altman.

AI "Was" being invested in.

Investing in "your friend" is what you said trump would do, while we see him literally doing that for his friends biggest compeditors.

By the way, with all this AI chaos you better believe $500 billion from investors has changed.

Oh once again the goverment sponsoring the market was a total fucking disaster.

Thanks for proving my point that we need to stop taxing people so the gov can throw money away, again and again and again.

Sounding a bit cult like. Not going to lie.

yes you are in a cult.

On CNN they said, "the capitol building is our temple"

No its not, its tantamount a park with a gazebo on in it.

Botten
01-28-2025, 04:43 PM
Investing in "your friend" is what you said trump would do, while we see him literally doing that for his friends biggest compeditors.

Trump is not doing a thing and the whole AI was setup long before Trump end announced.


yes you are in a cult.


Curious are your meds through Medicare? If so your cult leader is asking for you to make yet again another sacrifice for him.

https://www.fox9.com/news/medicaid-portals-down-senator-federal-funding-freeze

Ekco
01-28-2025, 04:44 PM
what are the political implications of Lex Fridman saying China won in his upcoming podcast.
https://i.imgur.com/D4Zg59X.png


we deserve it. my head cannon is they were pissed about this from 2 years ago

https://i.imgur.com/J1W7Iiq.png

AI and Woman are highlighted because i was looking for the "hottest Chinese woman" ai slop as possible for a "is coffee good for you" joke but found this gem instead.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 04:54 PM
Trump is not doing a thing and the whole AI was setup long before Trump end announced.

The more I hear from you the more I decide to press harder on the vote yes for republican.

GOOD JOB.

Like right now Id say, "fuck it just do Gilead." if it was an option.

I'm looking forward to voting for JD Vance 4 years from now just because it will make you mad.

I don't care if he was a real honest to god fascist dictator. I will still vote for him as long as you suffer with me.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 04:57 PM
Curious what your meds through Medicare? If so your cult leader is asking for you to make yet again another sacrifice for him.

https://www.fox9.com/news/medicaid-portals-down-senator-federal-funding-freeze

My thoughts are Medicare is that it's for the elderly only.

And if you ever spent any time with them, you'd know they don't need to use that portal to go to the hospital or pay medical bills.

They just get a letter after the fact showing how much money they didn't have to spend.

Only people who are not elderly use that portal to get their cut of a program that was intended for the elderly only.

Trexller
01-28-2025, 05:04 PM
Sounding a bit cult like. Not going to lie.

the biggest mistake "the left" can make in the next few years is failing to understand not why harris lost, that's obvious, but not understanding why trump won.

without any actual leadership, they were swallowed by the power vacuum that absence of leadership created.

now instead of leaders who will engage their opposition trying to seek common ground, for the common good of all, you will have a president who rules with a hammer, with only bureaucratic interference to slow him down. The very bureaucratic state he campaigned against.

In trying to stop him, they will prove him right, instead of winning back their voters by proving him wrong.

Then you'll have to deal with Vance 48, and this is a guy with the verbal skills to make you feel good while telling you to go fuck yourself.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:06 PM
I can't believe normies (biden voters) are so stupid they expected his "transitory inflation" to just end literally the DAY he leaves office.

The term transitory inflation is most likely why I voted for trump.

Not that I thought trump would fix it.. but because democrats denied it was real.

Im not going to vote for someone who tries to gaslight me into liking them.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 05:08 PM
the basic problem is they want a utopia which i don't have a problem with on principal but they act like we're living in a star trek post-scarcity society or something where nobody has to pay for it when in reality nestle wants to own all the water and nation states are planning for ww3 over rare earth minerals.

then they act like your a nazi for pointing out the fact reality is a cruel bitch. it's a form of escapism and denial n shit.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:10 PM
the basic problem is they want a utopia which i don't have a problem with on principal but they act like we're living in a star trek post-scarcity society or something where nobody has to pay for it when in reality nestle wants to own all the water and nation states are planning for ww3 over rare earth minerals.

then they act like your a nazi for pointing out the fact reality is a cruel bitch. it's a form of escapism and denial n shit.

https://i.imgur.com/OIaNqdf.gif

NopeNopeNopeNope
01-28-2025, 05:12 PM
I'm looking forward to voting for JD Vance 4 years from now just because it will make you mad.



He does tend to do very well in interviews and debates

But in that last interview where everyone is saying he “destroyed” that reporter, he overused the living shit out of her name to the point where it irritated me just listening to it. There is some who might interpret that as condescension as well

If he tried that shit with me I’d do it right back but worse so he’d understand how ridiculous it sounds:

“Listen JD, we are vetting our immigrants JD. Ok JD? JD, I understand you don’t think the process is effective, JD. But JD JD just because, Mr JD, that you think the process isn’t effective doesn’t mean, JD, that there isn’t a process, JD. JD”

Botten
01-28-2025, 05:14 PM
the biggest mistake "the left" can make in the next few years is failing to understand not why harris lost, that's obvious, but not understanding why trump won.

without any actual leadership, they were swallowed by the power vacuum that absence of leadership created.

now instead of leaders who will engage their opposition trying to seek common ground, for the common good of all, you will have a president who rules with a hammer, with only bureaucratic interference to slow him down. The very bureaucratic state he campaigned against.

In trying to stop him, they will prove him right, instead of winning back their voters by proving him wrong.

Then you'll have to deal with Vance 48, and this is a guy with the verbal skills to make you feel good while telling you to go fuck yourself.

You both make it sound like it was an overall huge win? Each of the controversial states were close.

Even the popular vote was very close.

Orange man's mismanagement recession is on its way to happen again and the same team will try to cheat again.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:15 PM
He does tend to do very well in interviews and debates

He was amazing on face the nation.

https://i.imgur.com/I4CeXZq.png

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shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:16 PM
Even the popular

That's right mo fo!

Orange man's mismanagement recession

I hated trump in 2019, and his V shaped recovery I thought was bulllllshit... but...

https://i.imgur.com/gwwZzJK.png

this isnt even us economy, it wasn't either of them.

The world just wasn't ending like we all thought it was.

Trump was right.

He was fucking right.

I hated him, but he was right.

Trexller
01-28-2025, 05:17 PM
there are factions among both parties that have been trying to sell utopian theory in their exacting attempt to establish dystopian rule

this is exactly the weaponized compassion I mentioned. It has nothing to do with love of fellow man, or climate, or peace. And it definitely did not originate in the homeland.

These people believe that we have already been surpassed and that the future is inevitable, they seek to secure themselves for that future. They see themselves with seats in the Politburo. They think this way because their entire life experience is removed from the reality of most citizens. They live in gilded prisons that they built for themselves, insulated from the reality on the ground that most of us understand quite well.

While they have gained strength in the absence of any real leadership, it shouldn't be cause for concern because nobody likes them, except for them, and even then they will eat each other the moment they sense weakness.

NopeNopeNopeNope
01-28-2025, 05:18 PM
He was amazing on face the nation.

https://i.imgur.com/I4CeXZq.png



That’s the one. If we had a drinking game to drink for every “Margaret” we’d be pretty lit

Overusing someone’s name is what you do when you are talking down to a little kid. I’m a big JD fan but that just came across to me as condescending and annoying. Otherwise he made some good points as usual

Ekco
01-28-2025, 05:18 PM
Even the popular vote was very close.


being a republican and having the popular vote "close" is a bigger self own than i think you realize.

last one to even have a good showing was Reagan after carter iirc or Bush 2nd term due to 9/11 or someshit

Neocon Kamala lost all the battlegrounds except 1 iirc

Trexller
01-28-2025, 05:19 PM
You both make it sound like it was an overall huge win? Each of the controversial states were close.

Even the popular vote was very close.

Orange man's mismanagement recession is on its way to happen again and the same team will try to cheat again.

this is why they won't win 2028, they don't look deep enough to understand why they lost

skim the facts until they agree with your opinion

then move on to the next thing

Botten
01-28-2025, 05:19 PM
I really don't mind JD Vance over the Orange man. At least JD Vance served and at one point spoke about what a traitor is.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 05:21 PM
I really don't mind JD Vance over the Orange man. At least JD Vance served and at one point spoke about what a traitor is.

he'll be the first gay white guy POTUS in the next cycle if he wins also. don't forget that.

other than Lincoln of course

Trexller
01-28-2025, 05:21 PM
I really don't mind JD Vance over the Orange man. At least JD Vance served and at one point spoke about what a traitor is.

Then you'll have to deal with Vance 48, and this is a guy with the verbal skills to make you feel good while telling you to go fuck yourself.

Botten
01-28-2025, 05:21 PM
being a republican and having the popular vote "close" is a bigger self own than i think you realize.

last one to even have a good showing was Reagan after carter iirc or Bush 2nd term due to 9/11 or someshit

Neocon Kamala lost all the battlegrounds except 1 iirc

Like Hilary? I don't like how this nation persevere woman in power.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 05:21 PM
being a republican and having the popular vote "close" is a bigger self own than i think you realize.

last one to even have a good showing was Reagan after carter iirc or Bush 2nd term due to 9/11 or someshit

Neocon Kamala lost all the battlegrounds except 1 iirc

2004 red team won the popular vote. Reagan 80 was the last male majority electorate.

e: I'm wrong. Males 1976. It's been awhile guys. :o

Ekco
01-28-2025, 05:24 PM
there are factions among both parties that have been trying to sell utopian theory in their exacting attempt to establish dystopian rule

this is exactly the weaponized compassion I mentioned. It has nothing to do with love of fellow man, or climate, or peace. And it definitely did not originate in the homeland.

These people believe that we have already been surpassed and that the future is inevitable, they seek to secure themselves for that future. They see themselves with seats in the Politburo. They think this way because their entire life experience is removed from the reality of most citizens. They live in gilded prisons that they built for themselves, insulated from the reality on the ground that most of us understand quite well.

While they have gained strength in the absence of any real leadership, it shouldn't be cause for concern because nobody likes them, except for them, and even then they will eat each other the moment they sense weakness.

makes sense, always got that feeling everytime some rich ceo on CNBC would randomly bring up teaching their kids mandarin

Botten
01-28-2025, 05:25 PM
this is why they won't win 2028, they don't look deep enough to understand why they lost

skim the facts until they agree with your opinion

then move on to the next thing

The pendulum is swinging. His mismanagement is inevitable.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:26 PM
I really don't mind JD Vance over the Orange man. At least JD Vance served and at one point spoke about what a traitor is.

Great, we can do fascism then, glad we agree.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:28 PM
The pendulum is swinging. His mismanagement is inevitable.

Its been 8 days, there is no pendulum swinging.

The only thing we're a little frustrated with is, that he isn't a dictator yet.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 05:30 PM
The pendulum is swinging. His mismanagement is inevitable.

the bar is starting in the negatives for everyone that didn't vote for him or stayed home, the only pendulum swinging going on the near term is blue team losing even more vote share cause i don't see how his policies don't cause a economic boom

the progs and neolibs need to figure out who the top and who the bottom is in their relationship cause this weird hybrid of "playing house" as a political party isn't fucking working anymore. either go actual socialist or actual neolib

i don't even care which way i'm not voting anymore regardless but someone needs to lead

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:30 PM
The only pendulum swinging is democrats suddenly care about grocery prices.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 05:34 PM
The only pendulum swinging is democrats suddenly care about grocery prices.

Farm lady isn't even reported out of committee yet.

But her 'plan' to is put chickens under surveillance. :p

Ekco
01-28-2025, 05:34 PM
you assholes are making me check in on the only two political pundits i can stand, and i made a promise to myself not too consume this professional wrestling bullshit anymore.

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JVL is the GOAT

Trexller
01-28-2025, 05:37 PM
The pendulum is swinging. His mismanagement is inevitable.

This is doubtful, he has a dream team of political managers behind him. Love them or hate them, they know what they are doing, and are not afraid to do it.

Some of them were democrats not all that long ago, and he wouldn't have got my vote, or alot of other votes were it not for them joining the cause.

a stopped clock being right twice a day and all, Joe Rogan made an apt comment recently in response to people calling for a "Leftist Joe Rogan", Rogan answers, "You had me, I was on your side"

counting on trump to fail is too big of a risky variable for the left, not when there is a very good chance that he will succeed.

don't lose the forest for the trees

arvidez
01-28-2025, 05:38 PM
when JD Vance talks i hear mrballen.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:43 PM
Oh look, democrats all of the sudden are worried about violent offenders...

https://i.imgur.com/IK65imq.png

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:51 PM
Here's how we can solve that problem.

Repeat violent offenders are deported, citizen or not!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-foreign-imprisonment-us-criminals-repeat-offenders-rcna189522

LFG! Oh.. you don't really care about violent offenders, and just want to imprison ME? Oh... :(

Ekco
01-28-2025, 05:54 PM
Oh look, democrats all of the sudden are worried about violent offenders...

https://i.imgur.com/IK65imq.png

are neocons democrats now? if you were talking about my post. thats Jeb Bush's communications director and the other guy is a super catholic pro lifer, on Bill Kristols youtube channel, you know the guy from Reagan and Bush seniors administration

whatever is in the water or airwaves is turning progressives and trump supporters, LITERALLY retarded. hopefully RFK can get to the bottom of it

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 05:56 PM
are neocons democrats now? if you were talking about my post. thats Jeb Bush's communications director and the other guy is a super catholic pro lifer, on Bill Kristols youtube channel, you know the guy from Reagan and Bush seniors administration

whatever is in the water or airwaves is turning progressives and trump supporters, LITERALLY retarded. hopefully RFK can get to the bottom of it

The two men in that video are are teeeerrrriiiifififiifiiiiiieeeeed of mostly peaceful protestors being released from gulags.

Whatever they define themselves as, I define them as: hypocrite normies.

I could probably find a clip of them saying sending illegal immigrant charged with child sex crimes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR5rFfy6jxA) back to their home country is fascism.

Trexller
01-28-2025, 06:00 PM
people in general are kind hearted and if you offer them 2 options, one seems nice and the other seems mean, most people will choose the nice option.

you could take advantage of this if you wanted to destabilize a society, by making the nice option the one that also introduces unfavorable elements to that society.

most immigrants don't want anything other then a reliable means to put food on their table, and it shouldn't take 6 years for that to happen.

but it doesn't require millions of cold hearted criminals to screw everything up for everyone else, just a few thousand in the right places.

in refusing to pass any sort of meaningful immigration reform or border security, they created a space for no immigration to become popular. in making going green the answer to everything, they sold something they couldn't hope to deliver.

they still don't understand why, "We don't want it only because that guy does" is a losing campaign platform, but in a world where you have to convince hearts and minds in less than 30 seconds as the voter doomscrolls through their life, it's the only option they had

now they are trying to figure out why people all of a sudden are happy to sit through 3 hour conversations from educated people

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 06:01 PM
people in general are kind hearted and if you offer them 2 options, one seems nice and the other seems mean, most people will choose the nice option.

you could take advantage of this if you wanted to destabilize a society, by making the nice option the one that also introduces unfavorable elements to that society.

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Americans think if you just give a country an American flag they will adopt western culture.

We tried that with Russia, what did it get us? Well it ended the cold war.. but started ww3 25 years later.

Reiwa
01-28-2025, 06:09 PM
wizard does wizard shit (https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-pause-federal-grants-aid-f9948b9996c0ca971f0065fac85737ce)

Ekco
01-28-2025, 06:09 PM
The two men in that video are are teeeerrrriiiifififiifiiiiiieeeeed of mostly peaceful protestors being released from gulags.

Whatever they define themselves as, I define them as: hypocrite normies.

I could probably find a clip of them saying sending illegal immigrant charged with child sex crimes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR5rFfy6jxA) back to their home country is fascism.

the blanket pardon also pardoned the undercover feds, and you eat this shit up with a shovel

that one dude, not the guy with an eyepatch is 100% a fed iirc

source: 4chan.


also the guy that smeared shit on the wall prolly should do some community service. your only okay with it because other retards scream about it constantly. that doesn't make you right, it makes you also retarded.

they have the footage and both sides poured over it, you could easily pardon the ones dems went after to just be dicks about it without also pardoning the dudes beating up cops.

Ekco
01-28-2025, 06:10 PM
wizard does wizard shit (https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-pause-federal-grants-aid-f9948b9996c0ca971f0065fac85737ce)

these judges sure have a lot of power. i see why billionaires buy them now.

Trexller
01-28-2025, 06:15 PM
Americans think if you just give a country an American flag they will adopt western culture.

We tried that with Russia, what did it get us? Well it ended the cold war.. but started ww3 25 years later.

Russia doesn't really want anything more then their own influence in what they feel is their part of the world. They also have an entire leadership class that never took their cold war glasses off. Their messaging to the west can be summed up with little more then, "stay out of our playground"

This is unacceptable to western hegemony. While there is no NATO general who lies awake at night concerned over russian nukes, there are many western bankers who lie awake at night concerned about russian influence in emerging nations. After the baltic states became "westernized" the russian leaders realized that their influence was holding onto nothing, where they can offer gazprom and telegram, the west can offer exxon shell and Meta. Where they can peddle influence in an election, the NSA alone has a greater hacking capability then the rest of the world combined.

Where they have to mobilize their entire country to hold a line in battle, we can send our dusty old gulf war era shit to sunflower farmers.

For as long as russia is beaten down economically, politically and militarily, they will not be able to partner up with anyone in a meaningful way.

As the northern ocean thaws, shipping lanes open, and new areas of resources become available, an entire new world opens up on planet earth. A new world that NATO generals think about at night, a world where little red flags dot their maps.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 06:15 PM
Honestly we use this pyscological warfair on each other and it's so obvious.

Like for example in literally this weeks episode:

1. Pushing the idea that trumpers are mad about egg prices. This is psycological warfair to try to make trumpers mad about egg prices.

2. Elon being the real president, is a very obvious pyhscological tool that the left and media are using to de-stabalize the relationship between trump and elon. They know that trump might get mad at those statements and will lash out against elon as a result. They know they know this, and I they know I know they know this. But they will deny it. But I know they are not that stupid to not know this.

3. A great example is mark cuban trying to convince people on twitter to use psychological warfare:

https://i.imgur.com/JWMmr50.png

My theory is, this is a subconcious self destructguve human behavior, that is just totally out of control since the advent of the post modern erra.

We are so self destructive, we will say that americans are the worst, least free, most awful colonizers on earth, nevermind that we were the first to end race based slavery, the civil rights movment, give individuals freedom, created a market that got more people out of poverty than any system before it..

Ask anyone and they'll all say the same thing, conservative or democrat, that america is a colonizing awful country.

Only a few maga people here actually love this place. The rest think they can fix it.

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 06:16 PM
the blanket pardon also pardoned the undercover feds, and you eat this shit up with a shovel

are you seriously trying to convince me that the FBI had undercover agents that were the violent offenders right now?

Ekco
01-28-2025, 06:18 PM
atleast Cuban is doing something to lower drug prices, unlike an entire political party that stated it as their goal for a decade and a half

don't @ me about insulin, that shit is a red herring from big pharma while they skull fuck you on everything else

shovelquest
01-28-2025, 06:20 PM
atleast Cuban is doing something to lower drug prices, unlike an entire political party that stated it as their goal for a decade and a half

don't @ me about insulin, that shit is a red herring from big pharma while they skull fuck you on everything else

I agree with you that insulin price caps was not a victory, especially since trump is the one that lowered them to the price Biden capped them at. :cool:

Ekco
01-28-2025, 06:21 PM
are you seriously trying to convince me that the FBI had undercover agents that were the violent offenders right now?

holy fuck google Agent provocateur, FBI has been caught starting more riots n bullshit while undercover than any other alphabet soup agency

how fuckin normie are you? the one in Seattle they started by throwing shit threw a starbucks, they started shit at occupy wallstreet also.

literally how they justify their budget, when they aren't catfishing retards into being terrorists that is

Ekco
01-28-2025, 06:22 PM
https://media.tenor.com/iGMC9Qv8aV4AAAAM/simpsons-homer-simpson.gif