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kalzin
08-01-2011, 01:40 PM
Items bolded are geared towards incorrect or not-available items/updates...

July-Dec 2000
Stand Out Occurrences:
- NPCs stop saying "hit by non-melee for XX points" (July 19)
- Wurmslayer becomes a one-hand slasher (Aug. 9) Sorry guys, it was origonally 2hs
- Epic quests are introduced (Sept. 19)
- Players are now able to exceed 200 in one tradeskill (Sept. 19)
- Corpses of NPCs 55th level or higher get 30-minute decay timers (Sept. 28)
- Pauses are added to socials, /camp command added (Sept. 28)
- Velious goes live (Dec. 6)
- NPCs gain RAMPAGE and FLURRY abilities (Velious Release)

Jan-June 2000
Stand Out Occurrences:
- Plane of Sky is introduced (Jan.)
- Casters respawn with no mana after being killed by a player (Feb. 3)Players spawn now with no mana reguardless of PK or NPC death...
- City of Paineel is introduced (Feb. 17)
- Erudites can now be Shadowknights (Feb. 17)
- Rogues get the Evade ability (Feb. 17)
- Deity-specific items are introduced (Apr. 10)are these in yet?
- Kerra Ridge and Splitpaw are revamped to higher level (Apr. 10)
- Kunark goes live with a new level cap of 60 (Apr. 21)
- Newbie guards get buffed to their current levels (May)
- The Hole is introduced (June 22)
- Lady Vox and Lord Nagafen are no longer attackable by players over 52nd level

nilbog
08-04-2011, 07:02 PM
- Wurmslayer becomes a one-hand slasher (Aug. 9) Sorry guys, it was origonally 2hs

It doesn't say that. The patch indicates wurmslayer becoming a 1hs. It could have been a 1hand blunt. In this case, it was piercing. :P


- Casters respawn with no mana after being killed by a player (Feb. 3)Players spawn now with no mana reguardless of PK or NPC death...


Are you suggesting that since pvp kills yielded no mana, that pve should yield mana? Need specifics, but this patch doesn't say that.


- Deity-specific items are introduced (Apr. 10)are these in yet?


Which ones?

Feachie
08-04-2011, 07:25 PM
Are you suggesting that since pvp kills yielded no mana, that pve should yield mana? Need specifics, but this patch doesn't say that.

patch doesn't say it but it implies that a death by an npc is treated differently.

Rais
08-04-2011, 07:46 PM
The no mana from pvp duels was caused by a guy named Raistin flying though levels. He had a stern talking to from some GMs about it.

Lady D rocked tho!

NPC deaths was different and not treated as duel deaths. On here tho as a caster, you don't respawn with full mana.

kalzin
08-05-2011, 12:06 AM
I do appologize, apparently it was 2hs, piercing, and landed finally on 1hs... I'll post the db reference but im pretty sure gordon may be correct.

Official_EverQuest_Forums [ 11:14 AM EDT ] - Ogamok
Gordon had the following to say here on the Official Everquest Message Boards


What we *really* need is a "polearm" skill. We really don't like the idea of paladins wielding daggers or rapiers, but really wouldn't have a problem with them using lances and polearms. Unfortunately, new skills aren't technically feasible at this time.

In any case, the change from 2HS to piercing was a mistake, and it's been switched to 1HS to go live with the next patch.

-Gordon

pulled from a meta-search using LawTSI's LAW50 EDD function and
http://web.archive.org/web/20000622023021/http://boards-cgi.station.sony.com/everquest/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro&BypassCookie=true

kalzin
08-05-2011, 12:59 AM
well this isn't much but heres the db entries...
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m557/Tim_Arbuckle/EQPro99/SDMCws.jpg

Bardalicious
08-05-2011, 02:41 AM
It certainly would appear those database entries indicate 3 separate changes. Starting as 2A (2-h slash?), going to 1C (1-h pierce?) then finally 1A (1-h slash?).

kalzin
08-05-2011, 08:44 AM
I believe that to be the case, however the "erroneous change" is what has me confused... i see the statement saying it was a mistake to change it from
2hs to pierce ( i believe this was on the test server). But it could have very-well been a pierceing weapon in the game... if so tho wouldn't it be 2h piercing... what was the Messenger of the Queen? I feel that the items may had gotten switched on the test server and then corrected.

Bardalicious
08-06-2011, 01:05 AM
I believe that to be the case, however the "erroneous change" is what has me confused... i see the statement saying it was a mistake to change it from
2hs to pierce ( i believe this was on the test server). But it could have very-well been a pierceing weapon in the game... if so tho wouldn't it be 2h piercing... what was the Messenger of the Queen? I feel that the items may had gotten switched on the test server and then corrected.

Wurmslayer was most certainly never 2hp. Were there even 2hp weapons in the game prior to Velious? Gordon's post about needing a "polearm" skill, aka 2 handed piercing, would indicate that it hadn't existed at that point.

As for the erroneous change what he is saying is that it definitely originated as a 2hs weapon and was accidentally changed to 1 handed piercing instead of 1 handed slashing as they had intended. The 1 handed slash change was implemented pending the next patch. The only thing that can really be argued is whether it was ever a piercing weapon on Live before it went from 2-hs to 1-hs.

nilbog
08-06-2011, 08:43 AM
Wurmslayer was most certainly never 2hp. Were there even 2hp weapons in the game prior to Velious? Gordon's post about needing a "polearm" skill, aka 2 handed piercing, would indicate that it hadn't existed at that point.

As for the erroneous change what he is saying is that it definitely originated as a 2hs weapon and was accidentally changed to 1 handed piercing instead of 1 handed slashing as they had intended. The 1 handed slash change was implemented pending the next patch. The only thing that can really be argued is whether it was ever a piercing weapon on Live before it went from 2-hs to 1-hs.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u48/jefrogers/Wurmslayer.jpg
http://web.archive.org/web/20000611045515/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/

It wasn't labeled as 2hp; it just said 'piercing'. Curious as to how long it was 2hs before becoming piercing.

I only remember piercing, then 1hs, so that's anecdotal failure on my part I guess. Only used the weapon briefly due to it being an incredible stamina killer.

Since paladins didn't have piercing skill, did Wurmslayer use slashing skill? That's what I recall, but I can't remember if I got skill ups.

Bardalicious
08-06-2011, 01:10 PM
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u48/jefrogers/Wurmslayer.jpg
http://web.archive.org/web/20000611045515/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/

It wasn't labeled as 2hp; it just said 'piercing'. Curious as to how long it was 2hs before becoming piercing.

I only remember piercing, then 1hs, so that's anecdotal failure on my part I guess. Only used the weapon briefly due to it being an incredible stamina killer.

Since paladins didn't have piercing skill, did Wurmslayer use slashing skill? That's what I recall, but I can't remember if I got skill ups.

Is it a 1 handed piercing weapon on P99 then?

As for the timeline, kalzin, I don't suppose that database has an entry that contains date modified or something similar?

Rexnor
08-06-2011, 05:34 PM
As far as i can remember it was Priercing first

kalzin
08-06-2011, 05:40 PM
My appologies for the first post, was using my brother's computer so i had him edit it with his memory on the item. As for further review of the database entrie you are correct that it was piercing then changed to 1hs. when running the query $=ILv the 2hs version shows up as Null, whereas the 1hs and piercing versions show True and False respectivley. Meaning the 2hs version was on the test server.

I am learning this console still so bare with me.:o

Addendum: I have learned that since this is the Velious database I can pull forward loot that was SUPPOSED to go to the sleeper in the event that it was ever possible to kill it... such items include: "Robe of Eternal Destruction" "Robe of Primordial Evolution" "Sharded Blade of Kerafyrm" etc... It would appear however that the SOE devs became upset that someone managed to defeat the sleeper before the event was finished, and also by using a glitch. thus these items never went into her loot table :(

Adendum secunda: I don't believe there is a date modified field as all items in the database were left... you can add but you can't delete or edit items except for the ILv (Is live) field and/or by adding a / before the name, in the case of multiple changes I have noticed // and even /// items... I assume these were used to coment the items that did exist at one point but were removed from the game (maybe to notate their previous decisions to remove them so they were not accidentally re-added)

Also, I tried running a search for * con* | echo (**) but it lags for a very long time then responds with the following:
*## Error the search request Fails, too many results!

i also tried alphabetical search: A* con* |Echo (**)
with the same results... even tried results that would return less than 100 results... after toying with it it would appear that I can only search for a maximum of 20-30 entries before it crashes... and even then it limits it by session (a session is defined by 1-hour limitation)...

Demetrium
08-10-2011, 10:12 AM
Wurmslayer was most certainly never 2hp. Were there even 2hp weapons in the game prior to Velious? Gordon's post about needing a "polearm" skill, aka 2 handed piercing, would indicate that it hadn't existed at that point.

As for the erroneous change what he is saying is that it definitely originated as a 2hs weapon and was accidentally changed to 1 handed piercing instead of 1 handed slashing as they had intended. The 1 handed slash change was implemented pending the next patch. The only thing that can really be argued is whether it was ever a piercing weapon on Live before it went from 2-hs to 1-hs.

I have no proof, but this is correct from what I remember. It was 2HS > 1HP > 1HS in that order. Then it went from being PRI/SEC/RNG to PRI only.

Also, I'm pretty sure Tantor's Tusk from Velious was the first 2HP in the game. It also might have been labled as just "piercing" but took both hands --- ZAM has it listed as a 2HP though.

maximum
01-17-2012, 10:01 PM
1H Slashing By: Anonymous
Posted @ Tue, Oct 17th 7:17 PM Score: Default[2.00]
Greetings, from what I understand the weapon is now 1H Slashing, Not peircing, if I am wrong correct me but I'm pretty sure this bad boy slashes now.

http://web.archive.org/web/200012081350/http://eqdb.allakhazam.com/quest.html?quest=411&mid=97182540025855

So, that looks like October, 2000 to me.