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Gmal
12-18-2011, 01:47 PM
So after revamp we are noticing 5% regen per tick. Is this as designed? Doesnt seem right. Thats 1600 hp regen per tick.

nilbog
12-18-2011, 01:51 PM
It's a slight increase from previous patch based on reports that regen was slightly too low.

If it is too much, it can be slightly scaled back. Need more feedback though.

Overall, the VP dragons should be harder now. Dragon charm now works, and some LOS fixes should make them more intelligent.

Brinkman
12-18-2011, 01:52 PM
VP dragon regen was definatally wrong pre-patch. At 5% now, it seems closer to right than before the patch ( which was very low )

quido
12-18-2011, 02:00 PM
I know they're supposed to regen a lot, but 1600 (or so) a tic seems a bit high. According to my records, the upgraded level 70 version of Hoshkar regens 1350 a tic (and hits for like 2k).

Autotune
12-18-2011, 05:11 PM
they were definitely more fun to kill :)

Rusl
12-18-2011, 05:22 PM
^ Very true, made the fights a lot more interesting, dragons don't just fall over anymore.

Autotune
12-18-2011, 05:26 PM
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:37 2011] You lose control of yourself!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:37 2011] You have been charmed.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:38 2011] Hoshkar pet bites Bate for 75 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:38 2011] Hoshkar pet bites Bate for 27 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:38 2011] You begin casting Deflux.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:38 2011] Tortue feels much better.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:38 2011] Gabantik tries to slice Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:38 2011] Gabantik slices Hoshkar for 48 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:39 2011] Bate regains concentration and continues casting.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:39 2011] Hoshkar pierces Aiaus for 350 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:39 2011] Hoshkar pierces Aiaus for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:39 2011] Xeli begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:39 2011] Necrious begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:40 2011] Xeli regains concentration and continues casting.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:41 2011] Hoshkar pierces Aiaus for 673 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:41 2011] Hoshkar pierces Aiaus for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:41 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:41 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] You begin casting Trucidation.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Jabartik's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Gabantik's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Jibeker's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Jibeker has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Jibeker says 'Sorry to have failed you, oh Great One.'
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Tortue's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Tortue has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Aiaus's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Aiaus has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Aiaus's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:42 2011] Hoshkar tries to kick Jabartik, but Jabartik ripostes!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:43 2011] Jabartik tries to hit Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:43 2011] Hoshkar tries to pierce Jabartik, but Jabartik parries!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:43 2011] Hoshkar tries to pierce Jabartik, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:44 2011] Jabartik tries to hit Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:44 2011] Jabartik tries to hit Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:44 2011] Bate begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:45 2011] Hoshkar pierces Jabartik for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:45 2011] Jabartik has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:45 2011] Jabartik says 'Sorry to have failed you, oh Great One.'
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:45 2011] Hoshkar says 'You will not evade me Tortue!'
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:47 2011] Bate regains concentration and continues casting.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:47 2011] You say to your guild, 'omfg'
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:47 2011] You try to speak but cant move your mouth!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:47 2011] Darkdeath begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:48 2011] You must first select a target for this spell!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:48 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:48 2011] You begin casting Trucidation.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:50 2011] Gabantik kicks Hoshkar for 21 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:50 2011] Hoshkar pierces Jeremy for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:50 2011] Hoshkar pierces Jeremy for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:50 2011] Jeremy has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:52 2011] Hoshkar pet says 'You will not evade me Bate!'
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:54 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:54 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:54 2011] You begin casting Trucidation.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:54 2011] Gabantik says 'As you wish, oh great one.'
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:54 2011] Zagum has left the group.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:54 2011] You are now the leader of your group.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:54 2011] Hoshkar pierces Dosxx for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:54 2011] Dosxx has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:54 2011] Bate begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:55 2011] Froovy's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:55 2011] Drolgurd's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:55 2011] Xenober tries to slash Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:55 2011] Xenober slashes Hoshkar for 13 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:55 2011] Xenober tries to slash Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:55 2011] Xenober tries to slash Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:55 2011] Xenober bashes Hoshkar for 23 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:56 2011] Bate's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:56 2011] Zeelot begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:57 2011] Shekico begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:59 2011] Hoshkar was pierced by thorns.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:59 2011] You say to your guild, 'i got charmed'
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:59 2011] You try to speak but cant move your mouth!
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:59 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:59 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:34:59 2011] You begin casting Deflux.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:00 2011] Athel begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:00 2011] Hoshkar was pierced by thorns.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:00 2011] Melx begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:02 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:02 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:03 2011] You begin casting Deflux.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:03 2011] Xenober tries to slash Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:03 2011] Xenober slashes Hoshkar for 13 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:03 2011] Xenober tries to slash Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:03 2011] Xenober tries to slash Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:04 2011] Hoshkar pierces Xeli for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:04 2011] Xeli's skin freezes.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:04 2011] Hoshkar pierces Xeli for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:06 2011] Hoshkar pierces Xeli for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:06 2011] Xeli has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:06 2011] You try to cast a spell on Xeliscorpse, but they are protected.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:06 2011] You begin casting Trucidation.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:07 2011] Athel begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:09 2011] Xasten's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:09 2011] Melx's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:09 2011] Hoshkar pierces Xasten for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:09 2011] Xasten has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:11 2011] Hoshkar pierces Melx for 643 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:11 2011] Hoshkar was pierced by thorns.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:11 2011] Hoshkar tries to pierce Melx, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:11 2011] Xenober tries to slash Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:11 2011] Xenober slashes Hoshkar for 46 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:12 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:12 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:12 2011] You begin casting Deflux.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:13 2011] Xenober tries to kick Hoshkar, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:14 2011] Athel begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:15 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:15 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:16 2011] You begin casting Trucidation.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:17 2011] Hoshkar pierces Froovy for 186 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:17 2011] Hoshkar pierces Froovy for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:17 2011] Froovy begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:17 2011] Hoshkar tries to kick Froovy, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:18 2011] You say to your guild, 'hosh is trying to make me trucidation someone lol'
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:18 2011] You try to speak but cant move your mouth!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:18 2011] Athel feels much better.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:19 2011] Hoshkar pierces Froovy for 704 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:19 2011] Froovy's skin freezes.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:19 2011] Hoshkar pierces Froovy for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:19 2011] Froovy has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:21 2011] Hoshkar pierces Athel for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:21 2011] Hoshkar tries to pierce Athel, but misses!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:21 2011] Zeelot's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:22 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:22 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:22 2011] You begin casting Trucidation.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:24 2011] Drolgurd's song ends abruptly.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:26 2011] Shekico's spell fizzles!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:26 2011] Shekico begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:28 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:28 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:28 2011] You begin casting Trucidation.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:28 2011] Hoshkar begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:33 2011] Hoshkar begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:34 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:34 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:34 2011] You begin casting Deflux.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:37 2011] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:37 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:37 2011] You begin casting Deflux.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:40 2011] You have been healed for 264 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:40 2011] Stealin beams a smile at Necrious
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:40 2011] Stealin says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:40 2011] Necrious staggers.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:41 2011] You begin casting Trucidation.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:44 2011] Zeelot's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:44 2011] Shekico's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:44 2011] Necrious's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:44 2011] Darkdeath's body begins to rot.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:44 2011] Darkdeath has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:47 2011] You have been healed for 880 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:47 2011] Stealin beams a smile at Necrious
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:47 2011] Stealin says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:47 2011] Necrious seems drained.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:48 2011] Hoshkar pierces Shekico for 521 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:48 2011] Hoshkar pierces Shekico for 521 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:48 2011] Shekico has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:49 2011] Zeelot begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:50 2011] Hoshkar pierces Necrious for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:50 2011] Hoshkar pierces Necrious for 704 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:50 2011] Necrious has been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:51 2011] Zeelot regains concentration and continues casting.
[Sun Dec 18 11:35:51 2011] Zeelot dies.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:02 2011] Tortue tells the guild, 'hoshkar piercing !'
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:04 2011] You are no longer charmed.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:04 2011] You have control of yourself again.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:05 2011] You say to your guild, 'i'm charmed still lol'
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:06 2011] Hoshkar pierces YOU for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:06 2011] Hoshkar pierces YOU for 490 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:06 2011] Hoshkar kicks YOU for 191 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:06 2011] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:07 2011] You haven't recovered yet...
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:07 2011] You begin casting Feign Death.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:07 2011] Hoshkar pierces YOU for 765 points of damage.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:07 2011] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:07 2011] You have been slain by Hoshkar!
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:07 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:07 2011] You have lost experience.
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:09 2011] Jeremy tells the guild, 'time to roll a joint'
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:11 2011] Returning to Dreadlands, please wait...
[Sun Dec 18 11:36:11 2011] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...

my entire log while charmed. I was actually laughing pretty hard at Hosh spamming my 1500lifetap. Sadly he pathed thru the wall and took me with him before charm dropped and he raped me.

Uthgaard
12-18-2011, 05:39 PM
LOL. So you were the necro that got charmed?

Lazortag
12-18-2011, 05:53 PM
I just noticed an interesting bug from that log. Well maybe it's not a bug, but Stealin was only doing 80% damage (reduced pvp damage) with his lifetaps. Since he was actually an NPC's pet, shouldn't he have been counted as an NPC, and therefore done full damage?

Autotune
12-18-2011, 06:00 PM
LOL. So you were the necro that got charmed?

yeah, I actually got charmed as I was trying to FD around a corner. I figured I was not in line of sight and safe from his AE, I had no clue that I could still be charmed tho and he got me right as I started to FD. Soon as I was charmed I guess I was summoned under him(?) not sure exactly with my camera bouncing all over. Then he continued to cast Trucidation and deflux on people who were always out of LOS. I think I only got necrious as he laid FD but got hit by an AE.

Seemed he tried to cast nonstop on people that weren't in LOS, for whatever reason. It was hard for me to tell being charmed and my screen bouncing exactly where the people were.

If i wasn't laughing so hard i'd probably have caught the charm break quicker.

Uthgaard
12-18-2011, 06:02 PM
Since charm is intentionally not in place for pvp, a charmed player doing reduced damage is solely a pve consideration. Good find on the bug.

Autotune
12-18-2011, 09:45 PM
after thinking back about how the dragons were and the difficulty of them going down. I think they are fine. They are probably way more powerful than they were in classic, but so are the guilds in comparison to the guilds in classic.

I think the experience as a whole is closer to what it would of been like.

A+

Changing the charm mechanic so charmed people aren't getting the pvp nerfed dmg as well would be epic. I want to insta gib people :)

Migs351
12-19-2011, 10:32 AM
after thinking back about how the dragons were and the difficulty of them going down. I think they are fine. They are probably way more powerful than they were in classic, but so are the guilds in comparison to the guilds in classic.

I think the experience as a whole is closer to what it would of been like.

A+

Changing the charm mechanic so charmed people aren't getting the pvp nerfed dmg as well would be epic. I want to insta gib people :)

I would think since their goal in the design of this server is to make it as classic as possible, they would want to make them less powerful IF that's the way they originally were in Classic. I guess that's just me.

Autotune
12-19-2011, 10:56 AM
I would think since their goal in the design of this server is to make it as classic as possible, they would want to make them less powerful IF that's the way they originally were in Classic. I guess that's just me.

Depends, are they striving to recreate the server strictly classic as possible or are they striving to recreate the feel and experience that classic brought.

Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward

this is from the home page and could literally mean either or both.

Trax
12-27-2011, 11:06 AM
The regen is too high for classic VP, however it's manageable.

Motec
12-28-2011, 08:01 AM
Regen was way high, makes it fun.

Reikerx
12-29-2011, 01:53 PM
If you think VP dragon regen is bad, try Naggy/Vox with level 40-50s and scrap gear on Red99.

Szeth
12-29-2011, 02:56 PM
When they changed VP dragons to have all their abilities... some of them slipped over the other dragons as well.

Possible that Nag and Vox have gained some hp regen recently.