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Teddie1056
04-18-2012, 12:39 PM
Can we stop using the "Pixels" line. If there were no pixels I wouldn't play, it would just be a chat room. I enjoy my "pixels" and it is a silly insult.

Listen, I am not all that upset about the VP blockage. Hell I am not even that upset about the raid mob blockage. It's the animosity that gets to me. I try to be respectful to anyone I see because I am not a douche. If you are gonna dominate us in the raid scene, at least do it with decency.

Like this weekend, I was playing in my college's intramural softball playoffs. We ended up losing 30-2 to a team that would beat us 99 times out of 100, and they did the whole good game + high five line at the end. But in the end I enjoyed that game a lot more than the team that beat us 7-5 in the regular season that were complete dicks about it.

Let VD test out what we can do against one of these raid mobs, and don't kill them just to spite us. There is no reason to step on our throat until the guild disbands.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 12:40 PM
Your analogy never made sense, comparing a single player game to an mmo is just asinine. Eq wqs always a competition for raid mobs, until instancing, and are in now way comparable to fungi king, lol

Your second paragraph is opinion not reality, we actually want people to compete against

i'd rape the shit out of anyone going for fungi king against me.

http://troll.me/images/ronpaulrofl/come-at-me-bro-fucking-tinfoil-hat-motherfucker-thumb.jpg

Autotune
04-18-2012, 12:56 PM
does Ron Weasley know you're all up on his woman, stealin?

long hair, don't care.

Xadion
04-18-2012, 12:59 PM
Your analogy never made sense, comparing a single player game to an mmo is just asinine. Eq wqs always a competition for raid mobs, until instancing, and are in now way comparable to fungi king, lol

Your second paragraph is opinion not reality, we actually want people to compete against

Yes thank you Alarti, I had a few things typed out...but I just could not get a comparison of a console offline game to a MMORPG...and if it was just a troll or what?

Look now, we all play EQ for his or her own reasons- EQ made a big change in the life of gamers- ultima, the realm - none of them spurred the "MMO" game into life more so than EQ. Alot of what people love/loved about EQ is that it became its own world- each server their own community and it had life beyond the 'code of the game' - any game that can garner the 'human' aspect and become in any way part of a persons life outside the time that the screen is on and the controller/keyboard is in hand is a succsess.


I just typed and deleted a good 3 paragraphs of me rambleling on...

this is pointless, back to work I go.

falkun
04-18-2012, 01:14 PM
Your analogy never made sense, comparing a single player game to an mmo is just asinine. Eq wqs always a competition for raid mobs, until instancing, and are in now way comparable to fungi king, lol

Your second paragraph is opinion not reality, we actually want people to compete against

I have already explained how splorf's second paragraph is accurate, specifically this quote:
they want to keep the bar to entry as high as possible
My argument here:
TMO claims anyone can walk into VP, but the two guilds who started in VP had:
1) a forced rotation which allowed you to obtain initial pixels without training and/or other nonsense which is legal in VP
2) a chance to hone PVE raid tactics before adding the PVP aspects (not being forced to master both at the same time)
3) a chance to set up CoH/track bots without PVP
4) a chance to explore pathing, pulling, other zone mechanics in a controlled environment (without the PVP)

Basically, VP was a PVE zone between the two guilds, and now TMO wants to claim anyone can enter and compete within it as a PVP zone, without admitting the obvious advantage they have/had.

To directly respond to your quote:
we actually want people to compete against
The barrier for competition is to the point where its high enough that it doesn't look like anyone is going to bother to compete. Do I care that I'm not in VP? Eh, I'd like to see it. Do I think its worth the effort to get into VP? Not in the slightest. Right now, TMO is "the house". The odds are stacked in the house's favor, and anyone playing to beat the house is delusional.
TMO can "want" people to compete all day long, but TMO cannot compel people to compete. If no one wants to step up to the plate, then if TMO truly "wants" people to compete, TMO needs to lower the barrier for entry. I'm not saying TMO should or TMO has to, but I am saying no one wants to play the current odds TMO is offering. It also appears the "Endangered Species" mobs TMO are offering are an attempt to lower the barrier for entry, obviously as long as its not VD attempting to scale that barrier. Again, it is TMO's right to contest mobs and perfectly within TMO's rights to aid Taken on Talendor to combat VD, but it is also VD's right to contest Talendor and any other raid target VD would like to contest (except Ragefire, who VD is under a binding agreement on kill order).

Besides VD, I do not believe another guild has any VP keys (or at least zero Trak kills, so the keys they do have are MQs and/or purchased toons). Assuming it takes 30 keyed players to contend with the PVE and PVP aspects of VP, and that Trak drops 3 keys per death (round number, I honestly think its more like 2.2-2.5) and that Trak spawns every 3 days (which should be accurate on average), then it will take about a month for another guild to be ready to enter VP, and that's if they win every Trak that month (which I am assuming TMO would contest, with great early success according to how TMO fared against TR earlier in the game, making this unrealistic). I'm sure TMO faced a similar timeline against TR, and it looks like you guys came out on top, congratulations! I don't know if I have the heart for that, and it doesn't look like any of the other guilds do either. None of the other guilds on this server deem VP worthy of the effort your guild has put into getting there, so that is why you get VP pixels and the rest of us do not. You've earned it through carpal tunnel, socks, and hotpockets and it is yours to do with as you please. If you want to market your competition, you have to sell it to your audience; its economics, not philosophy.

While I'm at it, let's clear something else up...
When VP opened there was no agreement between TMO and TR. It was Train-a-palooza '11. It was after both guilds showed they were basically equal, but wasting each others time, that an agreement was temporarily established.

Veeshan's Peak will be released the same night the PvP Server goes live. This will be some time in early November. Keep an eye out for that announcement.

How it will work will be as follows. Any raid guild with sufficient force (Which I guess is only 2 of you right now, but things can always change) will need to be at the entrance to VP at a time and date to be specified. All guilds present will /random and will pick from the 6 mobs in order until all are chosen. They will then have until a second time that will be specified, most likely 24 hours, to kill their chosen mobs before they become free FTE.

Any guild that choses to raid VP on the night of opening will forfeit all other raid mobs for 48 hours. This is to encourage other smaller guilds a chance to experience raid encounters without them being slain minutes after spawning.

That initial rotation lasted for 3 spawn rotations, voluntarily between TR & TMO for rounds 2 & 3, before the chaos you describe broke loose.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 01:28 PM
Incoherant babbling..

Anyways, Gorenaire is back up on the endangered species list next. Look forward to it!

Gore again???

confirmed TMO lame as shit, why not Trak, Inny, or CT? You know, something actually worthwhile.

Danyelle
04-18-2012, 01:34 PM
Gore again???

confirmed TMO lame as shit, why not Trak, Inny, or CT? You know, something actually worthwhile.

You just handed me $500 again???

confirmed this guy is lame as shit, why not $1,000, $5,000, or $1,000,000? you know, enough to buy something better than a Volvo.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 01:39 PM
you consider gore to be analogous with someone handing you 500 bucks?

Are you high?

Gore = someone whipping out there penis and giving you the opportunity to suck

In fact all of these retarded threads pretty much equate to that scenario - the groupies of this server are just too fucking idiotic to realize it.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 01:43 PM
Gore again???

confirmed TMO lame as shit, why not Trak, Inny, or CT? You know, something actually worthwhile.

Confirmed gwence still mad as shit he couldn't hack it here

kazroth
04-18-2012, 01:43 PM
Gonna agree with Gwence on this one, haha

Autotune
04-18-2012, 01:43 PM
you consider gore to be analogous with someone handing you 500 bucks?

Are you high?

Gore = someone whipping out there penis and giving you the opportunity to suck

In fact all of these retarded threads pretty much equate to that scenario - the groupies of this server are just too fucking idiotic to realize it.

why you care dog?

I suppose if the other guilds are too good for those dragon loots, they can just ignore it and wait for more exciting things that are worth their time.

confirmed Gwence mad as fuck. You so silly.

Silentone
04-18-2012, 01:49 PM
I guess Gore has nothing Gwence needs so he going to throw a temper tantrum. God forbid other people get to experience raiding and some dragon loot.

Lazortag
04-18-2012, 01:54 PM
you consider gore to be analogous with someone handing you 500 bucks?

Are you high?

Gore = someone whipping out there penis and giving you the opportunity to suck

In fact all of these retarded threads pretty much equate to that scenario - the groupies of this server are just too fucking idiotic to realize it.

Danyelle's analogy was good. If someone gives you something they didn't have to, you shouldn't get mad that they didn't give you something better. I for one want to kill Gore because I still need a white scale (although obviously I would prefer Trak or Inny, I have no right to make demands). Stop being childish.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 01:58 PM
I guess Gore has nothing Gwence needs so he going to throw a temper tantrum. God forbid other people get to experience raiding and some dragon loot.

none of the mobs you fellas have access to have anything I need


I'm sooo mad

raymor
04-18-2012, 01:59 PM
I enjoy sharing my memories. Here you can see Sworen tanking a shitload of Fire Giants, some of which Qados and pals trained on us for taking "their" Tranix. Qados launched into a longwinded explanation of why Tranix was actually his and to this I typed my succinct response. Unfortunately Raymore got caught in the crossfire with some /say. Raymore, I'm sorry if you took offense. That "fuck off" was directed at Qados, not to you. Even though I think you and your other half are imbeciles, I did not mean to offend you right then and there. Please accept my apology.
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so this is how jeremy apology to call goodies an me out lol .. again great way to rep your guild lol..i remember when u guys where actively recruiting goodies an me ... that night was enough to show goodies an me we wanted no part in your guild..if we had to act like u there was no way in hell that was gonna happen lol... so now that i know that the fuck off was directed at a guildie instead of me .. that makes it ok i guess (in jeremy's world)

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:00 PM
Danyelle's analogy was good. If someone gives you something they didn't have to, you shouldn't get mad that they didn't give you something better. I for one want to kill Gore because I still need a white scale (although obviously I would prefer Trak or Inny, I have no right to make demands). Stop being childish.

havent logged onto p99 in quite a while but I think I have 8 or so white scales in my bank, you want one?

I guess I could stop being childish long enough to give it to you.

Asher
04-18-2012, 02:03 PM
havent logged onto p99 in quite a while but I think I have 8 or so white scales in my bank, you want one?

I guess I could stop being childish long enough to give it to you.

You would still be childish, but now a slightly kinder child.

Anything TMO is willing to offer to the server is great IMO.

Thanks guys,

Asher

Banditfist
04-18-2012, 02:03 PM
In other news....Vindi down. Eat shit P99

Autotune
04-18-2012, 02:04 PM
havent logged onto p99 in quite a while but I think I have 8 or so white scales in my bank, you want one?

I guess I could stop being childish long enough to give it to you.

oh wow dog, you got 8 white scales, your mother must be so proud.

How's EQmac treating you? Soo good you already forgot about how ungreen the grass is on p99 huh?

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:06 PM
You would still be childish, but now a slightly kinder child.

Anything TMO is willing to offer to the server is great IMO.

Thanks guys,

Asher

confirmed groupie

make sure you don't spill any of that hot lovin that's flowing into your mouth

Autotune
04-18-2012, 02:07 PM
In other news....Vindi down. Eat shit P99

see, this guy right here. He so happy on EQmac, he had to come here and talk about how he killed something on rotation with no competition while drinking his A+ tea.

Congrats dog, you killed something that has been killed before on a server that doesn't like to bump heads. Must feel great doing something so easy.

I killed an orc at orc2 like 30days ago, it was great.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 02:07 PM
In other news....Vindi down. Eat shit P99

I killed him in like 2000 or early 2001, though congrats on your kill!

Asher
04-18-2012, 02:10 PM
confirmed groupie

make sure you don't spill any of that hot lovin that's flowing into your mouth

As someone who is casual and has no interest in the hardcore environment of TMO I am content with scraps, yes.

If I wanted to lose my family, job and social life for EQ I would join TMO or start my own guild.

Asher

Asher
04-18-2012, 02:12 PM
confirmed groupie

make sure you don't spill any of that hot lovin that's flowing into your mouth

Oh, and I come from EQMac. Your kind will become ostracized quick.

Good luck fitting in.

Asher

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:14 PM
see, this guy right here. He so happy on EQmac, he had to come here and talk about how he killed something on rotation with no competition while drinking his A+ tea.

Congrats dog, you killed something that has been killed before on a server that doesn't like to bump heads. Must feel great doing something so easy.

I killed an orc at orc2 like 30days ago, it was great.

it's obvious you're the one who's mad here, I can understand it though, ib one step ahead yet again. You ran us off all the way to better raid content on a server that is vastly MORE classic than p99, thanks guys.

Our shadow is a nice fit for you to be honest, you shouldnt be mad.

baub
04-18-2012, 02:17 PM
I killed him in like 2000 or early 2001, though congrats on your kill!

and you'll kill him again sometime in 2013 no doubt!

Tiggles
04-18-2012, 02:21 PM
havent logged onto p99 in quite a while but I think I have 8 or so white scales in my bank, you want one?

I guess I could stop being childish long enough to give it to you.

8 scales?

Your gonna get in trouble if you dont hand that into the guild RMT pile.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 02:23 PM
it's obvious you're the one who's mad here, I can understand it though, ib one step ahead yet again. You ran us off all the way to better raid content on a server that is vastly MORE classic than p99, thanks guys.

Our shadow is a nice fit for you to be honest, you shouldnt be mad.

yeah, i'm so mad to not play with a very select few of IB that actually plays on that. Sadly, most of the badass IB people i know, don't even play with you guys. It's mostly the IB people that only got carried or didn't do much. You have probably 1-4 real players, the rest of you just fill holes and continue to be carried (yet this time it's not such a hassle as there isn't competition).

I am mad, I miss the good IB people. Have fun considering yourself "IB" when, in fact, you're even less IB on EQmac than you were at the end of IB on P99.

I'm pretty sure TMO is past IB's shadow as well, if you haven't noticed, the shadow TMO casts is leaps and bounds larger than IB's or any other guild's that has ever been on p99. You can easily tell too, that's why "IB" members from EQmac regularly come back and talk shit, they know.

Have fun being delusional, I know what the real players from IB think of EQmac (lol).

Lazortag
04-18-2012, 02:25 PM
havent logged onto p99 in quite a while but I think I have 8 or so white scales in my bank, you want one?

I guess I could stop being childish long enough to give it to you.

Sure, give it to me. Or we can duel for it. Either one results in me getting a white scale.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 02:28 PM
giegue for bard botb? anyone gonna challenge?

i'll log in and kill him on stealin.

Asher
04-18-2012, 02:28 PM
giegue for bard botb? anyone gonna challenge?

Bard BotB is kinda like watching old people hump no?

Asher

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 02:33 PM
it's obvious you're the one who's mad here, I can understand it though, ib one step ahead yet again. You ran us off all the way to better raid content on a server that is vastly MORE classic than p99, thanks guys.

Our shadow is a nice fit for you to be honest, you shouldnt be mad.

Lol so delusional!

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:34 PM
I know it's difficult for you to be intelligent, but your words make no sense. IB killed every kunark mob BEFORE you, they killed them MORE than you, and we did it better than you..

we dominated when there was actually something to dominate

now whether you want to admit it or not you're on a server with no competition that no one cares about, and clinging to some shred of hope one day you'll get to see velious.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 02:37 PM
I know it's difficult for you to be intelligent, but your words make no sense. IB killed every kunark mob BEFORE you, they killed them MORE than you, and we did it better than you..

we dominated when there was actually something to dominate

now whether you want to admit it or not you're on a server with no competition that no one cares about, and clinging to some shred of hope one day you'll get to see velious.

nah dog, we killed the 3 hardest kunark dragons before IB did.

Hoshkarr, Nexona, Druushk <== tmo server firsts.

We also killed IB in VP while killing Phara Dar.

you didn't dominate shit when it came down to it, you got stomped like bugs.

IB had a head start, TMO caught up and IB fled after getting owned. (plain and simple)

Edit:
Unless you're going to say "IB dominated when we had a gear lead on everyone else and none were capable of killing things we were" or "it doesn't count then because our members stopped playing when it got hard and had to compete"

Bitch please. Get real or get lost.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 02:39 PM
I know it's difficult for you to be intelligent, but your words make no sense. IB killed every kunark mob BEFORE you, they killed them MORE than you, and we did it better than you..

we dominated when there was actually something to dominate

now whether you want to admit it or not you're on a server with no competition that no one cares about, and clinging to some shred of hope one day you'll get to see velious.

Ib dominated the server...until they couldn't anymore, TMO set a new standard and you couldn't keep up, and then you fled to eqmac. Sorry brosef you can't alter server history with your lies :) even if you believe them!

Lazortag
04-18-2012, 02:40 PM
i'll log in and kill him on stealin.

Come at me bro.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 02:41 PM
nah dog, we killed the 3 hardest kunark dragons before IB did.

Hoshkarr, Nexona, Druushk <== tmo server firsts.

We also killed IB in VP while killing Phara Dar.

you didn't dominate shit when it came down to it, you got stomped like bugs.

IB had a head start, TMO caught up and IB fled after getting owned. (plain and simple)

Edit:
Unless you're going to say "IB dominated when we had a gear lead on everyone else and none were capable of killing things we were" or "it doesn't count then because our members stopped playing when it got hard and had to compete"

Bitch please. Get real or get lost.

Lol u said it better than me

Fazlazen
04-18-2012, 02:42 PM
I know it's difficult for you to be intelligent, but your words make no sense. IB killed every kunark mob BEFORE you, they killed them MORE than you, and we did it better than you..

we dominated when there was actually something to dominate

now whether you want to admit it or not you're on a server with no competition that no one cares about, and clinging to some shred of hope one day you'll get to see velious.


and then we drove you off the server...

Oh, and if you go to the server first thread created by IB, for IB, I'm sure you'll realise that TMO actually killed Nexona and Hoshkar first (the 2 toughest Dragons in Kunark) and DA killed EoV and HoV (the 2 toughest mobs in Classic) before you.

Who's the best !?!

Did all of IB buy their macs yet ? I hear there is an upcoming patch to get rid of PC players.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:44 PM
way to get those 3 kills first after you were allocated them in a roll off

ib got PD (only one that matters obv)

I'm actually laughing right now that you think you're good because of a round robin pick off that rogean enforced

I can see that is the ONLY way your shitty guild can get server firsts, is handouts. Definitely something you all should feel proud of.

Fazlazen
04-18-2012, 02:46 PM
way to get those 3 kills first after you were allocated them in a roll off

ib got PD (only one that matters obv)

I'm actually laughing right now that you think you're good because of a round robin pick off that rogean enforced

I can see that is the ONLY way your shitty guild can get server firsts, is handouts. Definitely something you all should feel proud of.

How's eq mac treating you ?

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:46 PM
Not too mention if VP was opened when it should have been (aka first day of kunark release) IB would've notched all the dragons

so I guess more handouts for you

Teddie1056
04-18-2012, 02:47 PM
Pfff, VD killed HoV and EoV!

DA was just there to watch I swear!

Hagglebaron
04-18-2012, 02:48 PM
it's obvious you're the one who's mad here, I can understand it though, ib one step ahead yet again. You ran us off all the way to better raid content on a server that is vastly MORE classic than p99, thanks guys.

Our shadow is a nice fit for you to be honest, you shouldnt be mad.

Why are you still spending your time squabbling with people here?

Fazlazen
04-18-2012, 02:50 PM
Pfff, VD killed HoV and EoV!

DA was just there to watch I swear!

RESPECT ;)

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:50 PM
and then we drove you off the server...

Oh, and if you go to the server first thread created by IB, for IB, I'm sure you'll realise that TMO actually killed Nexona and Hoshkar first (the 2 toughest Dragons in Kunark) and DA killed EoV and HoV (the 2 toughest mobs in Classic) before you.

Who's the best !?!

Did all of IB buy their macs yet ? I hear there is an upcoming patch to get rid of PC players.

It was DA +VD bro, are you dumb, or just new? Probably both.. Who killed everything up to EoV 4 months before DA + friends could even consider going for him?

Ya that pc fix was "suppose" to happen a month and a half ago.. I'm still logging in from a pc.

Paumad
04-18-2012, 02:50 PM
Why are you still spending your time squabbling with people here?
Because he's a nobody on EQmac, and a troll on here. P99 forums still confirmed better entertainment.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 02:51 PM
way to get those 3 kills first after you were allocated them in a roll off

ib got PD (only one that matters obv)

I'm actually laughing right now that you think you're good because of a round robin pick off that rogean enforced

I can see that is the ONLY way your shitty guild can get server firsts, is handouts. Definitely something you all should feel proud of.

we'd have rolled over you that first night too, you should probably be happy that Rogean/nilbog wanted to see the dragons and not hours of training.

IB got how many PDs? pretty sure TMO ended up getting more because we rocked you and made you submit.

TMO killed IB in vp first (and a second time) <<<< only one that matters obv.

I think it's funny you can't even remotely respond to that.

Hagglebaron
04-18-2012, 02:51 PM
I know it's difficult for you to be intelligent, but your words make no sense. IB killed every kunark mob BEFORE you, they killed them MORE than you, and we did it better than you..

we dominated when there was actually something to dominate

now whether you want to admit it or not you're on a server with no competition that no one cares about, and clinging to some shred of hope one day you'll get to see velious.

I believe their were a number of Kunark raid mobs killed first by DA and TMO, including VP named dragons and VS

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:52 PM
Why are you still spending your time squabbling with people here?

cuz I'm at work, bored, and can't log into eq lol

and tmo is hella bad, fun to mess with them.

Fazlazen
04-18-2012, 02:54 PM
It was DA +VD bro, are you dumb, or just new? Probably both.. Who killed everything up to EoV 4 months before DA + friends could even consider going for him?

Ya that pc fix was "suppose" to happen a month and a half ago.. I'm still logging in from a pc.

why so personal ?

so you killed Bee Queen 4 months before we killed EoV ? lol... and dont forget that your friends from Darkwind helped you too on your Bee Queen kill.

PS: I am dumb and new, bro.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:55 PM
no one helped us kill anything in sky, and bee is not the last boss before EoV

..jesus

Silentone
04-18-2012, 02:57 PM
cuz I'm at work, bored, and can't log into eq lol

and tmo is hella bad, fun to mess with them.

IB, known beggers of the EQmac community, straight from their boards. They had to issue an appology to the community and say the wouldnt beg anymore.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 02:57 PM
we'd have rolled over you that first night too, you should probably be happy that Rogean/nilbog wanted to see the dragons and not hours of training.

IB got how many PDs? pretty sure TMO ended up getting more because we rocked you and made you submit.

TMO killed IB in vp first (and a second time) <<<< only one that matters obv.

I think it's funny you can't even remotely respond to that.

What do you want me to respond to? That TMO is better at exploiting and training??

OK you're right, you guys are the kings in those categories

Fazlazen
04-18-2012, 02:58 PM
I was driven off the server, yet TMO is hella bad

..jesus

SotS one big meanie. Sorry, champ.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 03:00 PM
editing my words, now I know for sure you're mad.

Fazlazen
04-18-2012, 03:00 PM
What do you want me to respond to? That TMO is better at exploiting and training??

OK you're right, you guys are the kings in those categories

How many suspensions have you served, Gwence ?

Gwence
04-18-2012, 03:01 PM
3 - non related to TMO

try again

Fazlazen
04-18-2012, 03:02 PM
3 - non related to TMO

try again

but what were you suspended for, Gwence ?

You can leave this one unanswered, if you like.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 03:04 PM
What do you want me to respond to? That TMO is better at exploiting and training??

OK you're right, you guys are the kings in those categories

exploit what? the fact IB was all talk?

Obviously we are more skilled at EQ than IB (training) thank you for admitting the 1st in a long list of misconceptions you've been preaching.

It's quite obvious who exploited the majority of their VP dragon kills. Wiping to said dragons over and over until they bugged out and could kill them, because their shitbag coat-tail riding guild members wouldn't log in and assist.

So, as I've said, when it came down to it and TMO and IB competed on an equal level, your members (IB) started jumping ship because you were getting rocked. That is why you ended up joining with VD and TMO continued to own IB.

The only time IB likes anything to count, is when no one really competed against them because the other guilds lacked the needed members/levels/gear required to do it. However, when TMO and DA joined up and started rocking, IB cried and their shit members started duckin out? Wonder why that was? I seen some of them come back to get their epics too over members that stuck it out? It's no surprise IB died and had to bow out to EQmac where it's safer.

Splorf22
04-18-2012, 03:05 PM
Your second paragraph is opinion not reality, we actually want people to compete against

No, you want people to beat. Because when you beat another guild to a raid mob you feel good. You are still crowing about kicking IB off the server, and hey, I have to say that wasn't easy. Your dedication to this game inspires equal parts awe and pity in me.

Your analogy never made sense, comparing a single player game to an mmo is just asinine. Eq wqs always a competition for raid mobs, until instancing, and are in now way comparable to fungi king, lol

No, it isn't. Somehow all of TMO is under this huge collective delusion that EQ is a competitive game. I suspect this is because you guys are good at this strange, perverted competitive version of EQ that you have created, and we all like things we are good at.

EQ is a cooperative online MMO. Verant envisioned the game as an epic version of Dungeons and Dragons. The point of DnD is to make friends, chat, and adventure together. Not the other guys playing DnD in the room next door. In fact Verant went out of their way to disable PVP, after watching Ultima online.

I keep trying to sledgehammer this idea into your collective brains: 90% of the people on this server are here to play this version of EQ - the epic online DND EQ. Make some friends, chat, adventure in a dungeon, get a few shinies, kill a dragon eventually. Now I'm sure that when you play constantly you'll eventually get bored with this and think its easy. Verant agreed with you, which is why they kept launching expansions every 6 months :D But most of the server is not bored with this because they've never had a chance to do it.

My suggestion: go find a competitive game to play, like basketball.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 03:06 PM
1 was misunderstanding in hate with VD over maestro
2- I kept training DA naggy tracker Bushido or something who was just begging for it sitting in the entrance to the lair like a dummy
3- Uthgaard bias

I've trained before, but I'm not as good at it as TMO, I think that's clear. Also I was engaged with a guild that was actually worth my time.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 03:09 PM
Im going to lunch, make sure you at least try to come up with some coherant thoughts stealin dragons by the time I get back.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 03:11 PM
Im going to lunch, make sure you at least try to come up with some coherant thoughts stealin dragons by the time I get back.

no.

Harrison
04-18-2012, 03:14 PM
Lol stealin thinks training and exploiting in VP is competition...

baub
04-18-2012, 03:17 PM
exploit what? the fact IB was all talk?

Obviously we are more skilled at EQ than IB

Put your money where your mouth is! Remember a while back when the idea was floated around to do Trakanon with X amount of people? Here is the log of our first kill:

[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] Players on EverQuest:
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] ---------------------------
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Ketchupmonster <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Sorcerer] Demps (Dark Elf) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Hateme <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Monday <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Dianamel <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Warlord] Naukan (Barbarian) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Virtuoso] Feminem (Wood Elf) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Kolevii <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Xzerion <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Fjora <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Wilshire
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Rellapse <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Chaosweaver <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Gwense <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Zarkaz <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Wharhogg <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Gwence <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Harkor <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Mcnecro <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] There are 19 players in Old Sebilis.

Bolded names are bots.

Each of these characters less geared than yours on 99. No CoTH to get shroomed back into the fray. Trak actually does all his abilities.

I'm sure you have virtually no competition so setting something up wouldn't be too hard.

fischsemmel
04-18-2012, 03:21 PM
90% of the people on this server are here to play this version of EQ - the epic online DND EQ. Make some friends, chat, adventure in a dungeon, get a few shinies, kill a dragon eventually.

Making some friends, chatting, hackin' and slashin' in a dungeon, and eventually getting to kill a dragon (albeit one on an endangered list) is exactly what is going on on the server right now.

So...

?

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 03:22 PM
Not too mention if VP was opened when it should have been (aka first day of kunark release) IB would've notched all the dragons

so I guess more handouts for you

If you want to play what if, if we weren't forced to give you vp dragons, we would have trained your faces off and gotten all the vp server firsts

kazroth
04-18-2012, 03:24 PM
If you want to play what if, if we weren't forced to give you vp dragons, we would have trained your faces off and gotten all the vp server firsts

Alarti, noooo! Please tell me these aren't your true colors. The ONE person in TMO I had respect for! /cry

Autotune
04-18-2012, 03:26 PM
Lol stealin thinks training and exploiting in VP is competition...

Training is a tool in EQ, not knowing how to utilize it and defend against it will cause you to lose in a competition that allows it.

IB is the guild that continued to pull VP dragons until they would no longer AE before killing them with low numbers b/c they couldn't kill them otherwise.

Harrison thinks he knows what he is talking about, but doesn't.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 03:29 PM
Put your money where your mouth is! Remember a while back when the idea was floated around to do Trakanon with X amount of people? Here is the log of our first kill:

[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] Players on EverQuest:
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] ---------------------------
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Ketchupmonster <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Sorcerer] Demps (Dark Elf) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Hateme <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Monday <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Dianamel <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Warlord] Naukan (Barbarian) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Virtuoso] Feminem (Wood Elf) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Kolevii <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Xzerion <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Fjora <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Wilshire
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Rellapse <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Chaosweaver <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Gwense <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Zarkaz <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Wharhogg <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Gwence <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Harkor <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Mcnecro <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] There are 19 players in Old Sebilis.

Bolded names are bots.

Each of these characters less geared than yours on 99. No CoTH to get shroomed back into the fray. Trak actually does all his abilities.

I'm sure you have virtually no competition so setting something up wouldn't be too hard.

TMO can do it if they want, I don't log in atm as I don't feel the rush to compete. Killing easy raid targets that have a wide array of abilities (4-5 abilities holy shit) does not excite me at all.

You could kill Trakanon with 1 person and I wouldn't care. Kill Trakanon with 30 people while another 30 try to train you out, both start at the entrance of seb. Then i'll be impressed.

Banditfist
04-18-2012, 03:31 PM
I like how you refer to eqmac AZ no competition server. That is what P99 issue now, so you have the "endangered species" thread to stroke your ego.

5 months into Kumark, TMO's claim to fame was farming hate for armor and winning the race to Frigate for the locket camp. Also, zeelot being the douche he is by getting suspended for killing the vendor who sold the Kunark port spells to try to block everyone. I loved the 1.2 million plat offer for 2 lockets.....and then could not hold the camp.

Thank God gwence brought up the VP cockblock courtesy of it not being ready.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 03:33 PM
I like how you refer to eqmac AZ no competition server. That is what P99 issue now, so you have the "endangered species" thread to stroke your ego.

5 months into Kumark, TMO's claim to fame was farming hate for armor and winning the race to Frigate for the locket camp. Also, zeelot being the douche he is by getting suspended for killing the vendor who sold the Kunark port spells to try to block everyone. I loved the 1.2 million plat offer for 2 lockets.....and then could not hold the camp.

Thank God gwence brought up the VP cockblock courtesy of it not being ready.

you're right, p99 doesn't have competition now, maybe that is why all of you IB people are upset.

You left p99 to get away from the competition and allowed TMO to live where you wanted to with the way you wanted to live.

Sucks to be you, I suppose.

Crazyeye
04-18-2012, 03:33 PM
Where is this metallikus guy that usually coems in and rages with the rest of mad VD members I want to match them wordz to this pretty face again

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7wFdpxLoV1M/S8zh8K_69tI/AAAAAAAAAA4/Yut4POFZcQ4/s1600/all-babies-have-big-mouths-but-not-as-much-as-this-baby.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 03:36 PM
Alarti, noooo! Please tell me these aren't your true colors. The ONE person in TMO I had respect for! /cry

Training is legitimate in VP gm rules!and I was just demonstrating the futility of "what ifs"

baub
04-18-2012, 03:37 PM
TMO can do it if they want, I don't log in atm as I don't feel the rush to compete. Killing easy raid targets that have a wide array of abilities (4-5 abilities holy shit) does not excite me at all.

You could kill Trakanon with 1 person and I wouldn't care. Kill Trakanon with 30 people while another 30 try to train you out, both start at the entrance of seb. Then i'll be impressed.

Confirmed scaredy cat. You were so on-board with the idea when Trakanon was being rotated.

kazroth
04-18-2012, 03:37 PM
Training is legitimate in VP gm rules!

/respect <3

Autotune
04-18-2012, 03:38 PM
Confirmed scaredy cat. You were so on-board with the idea when Trakanon was being rotated.

that was trolling. also, guilds where suspended then too, which is why I was trolling about it.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 03:39 PM
/respect <3

I editied my postt

baub
04-18-2012, 03:41 PM
that was trolling. also, guilds where suspended then too, which is why I was trolling about it.

try it anyways, live a lil. contrary to what others might have said in this thread it was waking up at 4am just to ignore a gore batphone and zerging the shit out of content that drove me away from playing here.

push yourself in game a bit, you might just find that you like it <3

Silentone
04-18-2012, 03:42 PM
Baub confirmed mad, ran and joined a guild that imploded.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 03:44 PM
try it anyways, live a lil. contrary to what others might have said in this thread it was waking up at 4am just to ignore a gore batphone and zerging the shit out of content that drove me away from playing here.

push yourself in game a bit, you might just find that you like it <3

it doesn't excite me, i'm not even the slightest interested in logging in to kill a dragon, regardless of how many help or don't or even which dragon it is.

I'll log on to p99 when it gets exciting for me again, which may be never, who knows.

baub
04-18-2012, 03:49 PM
I'll log on to p99 when it gets exciting for me again, which may be never, who knows.

Well we have something in common there

Paumad
04-18-2012, 04:22 PM
I'll log on to p99 when it gets exciting for me again, which may be never, who knows.
Well we have something in common there

But like, can I have both of your stuffs?

kazroth
04-18-2012, 04:30 PM
that was trolling. also, guilds where suspended then too, which is why I was trolling about it.

Autotune: "I do not troll or counter-troll." Haha, liar :p

Flunklesnarkin
04-18-2012, 04:34 PM
Autotune: "I do not troll or counter-troll." Haha, liar :p

or successful troll if you believe them :o?

kazroth
04-18-2012, 04:38 PM
or successful troll if you believe them :o?

hahaha, you sir, are correct. Altho I never fell for it :eek: :rolleyes:

kazroth
04-18-2012, 04:39 PM
I editied my postt

oh, btw... I wasn't using /respect as an end to my respect for you... I was using it in the case of an emote in-game. Faith in you has been restored :P

Lazortag
04-18-2012, 04:39 PM
havent logged onto p99 in quite a while but I think I have 8 or so white scales in my bank, you want one?

I guess I could stop being childish long enough to give it to you.

Sure, give it to me. Or we can duel for it. Either one results in me getting a white scale.

"Giegue has defeated Gwence in a duel to the death! Gwence has fled like a cowardly dog!"

eadric
04-18-2012, 05:14 PM
EQ is what we the players make of it, and on p99 we've made an ugly clusterfuck of what should be a really special server. I really don't get what is so fun and fulfilling about this idea of "competition" on a 13 year old game. 24/7 raiding, racing, training, FTE rule lawyering... that's your idea of fun competition? There are plenty of games out there that offer real competition in the form of functional PVP. EQ is not one of them, and the idea that the tactics used here are somehow something to be proud of, or enjoyable for anyone involved, is baffling to me.

EQ at its best is about cooperation and community, not about stomping on each others throats and being complete douchebags to each other. I know this will sound like a crazy concept to some, but EQ really is more fun if you just relax, work with other guilds rather than against them, and log into a PVP or FPS game when you need to take out your aggression. The raid culture here is so incredibly messed up... it's really much worse than it ever was on live, and that's a damn shame.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 05:26 PM
oh, btw... I wasn't using /respect as an end to my respect for you... I was using it in the case of an emote in-game. Faith in you has been restored :P

You will be the rock upon which I build my church. Kazroth the apostle approach and be annointed

Autotune
04-18-2012, 05:38 PM
EQ is what we the players make of it, and on p99 we've made an ugly clusterfuck of what should be a really special server. I really don't get what is so fun and fulfilling about this idea of "competition" on a 13 year old game. 24/7 raiding, racing, training, FTE rule lawyering... that's your idea of fun competition? There are plenty of games out there that offer real competition in the form of functional PVP. EQ is not one of them, and the idea that the tactics used here are somehow something to be proud of, or enjoyable for anyone involved, is baffling to me.

EQ at its best is about cooperation and community, not about stomping on each others throats and being complete douchebags to each other. I know this will sound like a crazy concept to some, but EQ really is more fun if you just relax, work with other guilds rather than against them, and log into a PVP or FPS game when you need to take out your aggression. The raid culture here is so incredibly messed up... it's really much worse than it ever was on live, and that's a damn shame.

here is a hint. EQ is whatever you want it to be.

P99 is whatever the majority want it to be and to a lesser extent whatever the strongest wants it to be.

Don't want to compete for raid targets in the p99 aspect? don't. Wait it out and see how long till TMO gets bored or quits.

The server can go in many directions atm and honestly, the server is the most peaceful i've ever seen it since i've been here.

Everyone bitching is just doing what they do best, bitch. You want free loot, everyone already knows that, but don't expect the guild that stuck out the war to just roll over for you in an instant because you cried some. To the victor go the spoils, perhaps you should have fought it out to control the p99 world, then you could have turned it over in an instant.

Arteker
04-18-2012, 05:39 PM
Put your money where your mouth is! Remember a while back when the idea was floated around to do Trakanon with X amount of people? Here is the log of our first kill:

[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] Players on EverQuest:
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] ---------------------------
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Ketchupmonster <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Sorcerer] Demps (Dark Elf) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Hateme <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Monday <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Dianamel <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Warlord] Naukan (Barbarian) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [60 Virtuoso] Feminem (Wood Elf) <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Kolevii <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Xzerion <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Fjora <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Wilshire
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Rellapse <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Chaosweaver <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Gwense <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Zarkaz <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Wharhogg <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Gwence <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Harkor <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Mcnecro <The Resistance>
[Wed Apr 4 00:42:27 2012] There are 19 players in Old Sebilis.

Bolded names are bots.

Each of these characters less geared than yours on 99. No CoTH to get shroomed back into the fray. Trak actually does all his abilities.

I'm sure you have virtually no competition so setting something up wouldn't be too hard.

back in pop trakanon was soloed by paladin sks and monks necros , what is ur point.

deneauth
04-18-2012, 05:41 PM
what we should be searching for on this server is healthy competition. would someone please explain to me what that is? in 2 years I have not been able to figure it out.

Velion
04-18-2012, 05:41 PM
EQ is what we the players make of it, and on p99 we've made an ugly clusterfuck of what should be a really special server. I really don't get what is so fun and fulfilling about this idea of "competition" on a 13 year old game. 24/7 raiding, racing, training, FTE rule lawyering... that's your idea of fun competition? There are plenty of games out there that offer real competition in the form of functional PVP. EQ is not one of them, and the idea that the tactics used here are somehow something to be proud of, or enjoyable for anyone involved, is baffling to me.

EQ at its best is about cooperation and community, not about stomping on each others throats and being complete douchebags to each other. I know this will sound like a crazy concept to some, but EQ really is more fun if you just relax, work with other guilds rather than against them, and log into a PVP or FPS game when you need to take out your aggression. The raid culture here is so incredibly messed up... it's really much worse than it ever was on live, and that's a damn shame.

I agree with you 100% but the raiding population here just seems to be split on this issue. I understand many classic EQ raid encounters are not that difficult, so to some the competition and racing is the only real challenge. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that but it's just not my cup of tea and my schedule is not flexible enough to participate anymore. I generally have a 4-5 hour window in the evenings where I could do any sort of raiding and I could go weeks without anything significant spawning in that window.

baub
04-18-2012, 05:43 PM
back in pop trakanon was soloed by paladin sks and monks necros , what is ur point.

we're 60 and wearing banded? idk

Gwence
04-18-2012, 05:48 PM
TMO can do it if they want, I don't log in atm as I don't feel the rush to compete. Killing easy raid targets that have a wide array of abilities (4-5 abilities holy shit) does not excite me at all.

You could kill Trakanon with 1 person and I wouldn't care. Kill Trakanon with 30 people while another 30 try to train you out, both start at the entrance of seb. Then i'll be impressed.

hhaahahaaahahaha - I dont even think you have 19 people in your guild that know there way down to trak, let along have the ability to kill it.

autotune so mad right now

Autotune
04-18-2012, 05:50 PM
hhaahahaaahahaha - I dont even think you have 19 people in your guild that know there way down to trak, let along have the ability to kill it.

autotune so mad right now

lol, you act like it's some magical feat to make it down there. How, IB has low standards.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 05:51 PM
wtb more excuses from autotune

eadric
04-18-2012, 05:54 PM
here is a hint. EQ is whatever you want it to be.

P99 is whatever the majority want it to be and to a lesser extent whatever the strongest wants it to be.

Don't want to compete for raid targets in the p99 aspect? don't. Wait it out and see how long till TMO gets bored or quits.

The server can go in many directions atm and honestly, the server is the most peaceful i've ever seen it since i've been here.

Everyone bitching is just doing what they do best, bitch. You want free loot, everyone already knows that, but don't expect the guild that stuck out the war to just roll over for you in an instant because you cried some. To the victor go the spoils, perhaps you should have fought it out to control the p99 world, then you could have turned it over in an instant.

Pretty much agree with everything you said there, surprisingly - Other than the "you want free loot" statement. To you guys who have "stuck out the war" that has been this server, training and racing and 24/7 raiding is part of the price of getting boss kills and loot. That isn't what it has to be, or what it should be - with the exception of the premier raid dungeon of the expansion - VP, for now, NToV + Sleepers in Velious. If you want to be on top you should expect to have to fight and claw for it, that I agree with.

So many good players have left the server due to the state of the endgame, and the community has really suffered as a result. Community is ultimately what this game should be about, not total domination of all raid targets. This server and this community are a shadow of what they could have been. Certainly I'm not blaming it all on TMO - I've read the history. Just hoping things take a turn for the better in the future. The Ragefire rotation was the first real progress I've seen in my time on the server, so maybe there will be more in the future.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 05:57 PM
hhaahahaaahahaha - I dont even think you have 19 people in your guild that know there way down to trak, let along have the ability to kill it.

autotune so mad right now

Hmm is this poisoning the well, or abusive fallacy?

Either way definitely an adhominem fallacy

kazroth
04-18-2012, 05:57 PM
You will be the rock upon which I build my church. Kazroth the apostle approach and be annointed

New guild with you as the go... I mean helm?

Arteker
04-18-2012, 05:59 PM
hhaahahaaahahaha - I dont even think you have 19 people in your guild that know there way down to trak, let along have the ability to kill it.

autotune so mad right now

Actualy we did kill it with 21 while main force was in vp dealin with ur former allys, u know, those you backstabbed .

Arteker
04-18-2012, 06:00 PM
2 of them where a 58 rogue and a 57 paladin.

Maze513
04-18-2012, 06:04 PM
Gratz Taken!

Gwence
04-18-2012, 06:04 PM
I absolutely believe you

Autotune
04-18-2012, 06:06 PM
Pretty much agree with everything you said there, surprisingly - Other than the "you want free loot" statement. To you guys who have "stuck out the war" that has been this server, training and racing and 24/7 raiding is part of the price of getting boss kills and loot. That isn't what it has to be, or what it should be - with the exception of the premier raid dungeon of the expansion - VP, for now, NToV + Sleepers in Velious. If you want to be on top you should expect to have to fight and claw for it, that I agree with.

So many good players have left the server due to the state of the endgame, and the community has really suffered as a result. Community is ultimately what this game should be about, not total domination of all raid targets. This server and this community are a shadow of what they could have been. Certainly I'm not blaming it all on TMO - I've read the history. Just hoping things take a turn for the better in the future. The Ragefire rotation was the first real progress I've seen in my time on the server, so maybe there will be more in the future.

I'm not saying it couldn't be better for people the people that want it without competition. I just think expecting the server to flip so soon after and blaming TMO for it is silly and childish. Only a child would expect such change so quickly in their favor without thinking of everything involved. That is how the majority of the server came off after IB was run off.

There is no better time than now to stop crying, forum warrioring and hoping for change to log in and actually do something to shape the server into something you and people with your views want. You (everyone) have no one to blame for the way the server is but yourselves. If you can't figure out how to start change, find someone who can.

Ragefire rotation eh? wonder how that came about? I bet it wasn't all from crying, forum warrioring and hope.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 06:09 PM
I absolutely believe you

The amazing thing is you believe yourself, but no one else does.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 06:10 PM
1256 posts...1256 all of them more useless than the last, not counting the 5k or so more in RnF


delete your account and stop posting forever, it would be a massive step towards purification here, probably the outright cure.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 06:13 PM
The amazing thing is you believe yourself, but no one else does.

By no one else you mean, you and your 5 or 6 other butt buddies?

People that believe me don't post here, they aren't idiots like you and me.

quido
04-18-2012, 06:14 PM
Gwence likes bugs.

Autotune
04-18-2012, 06:14 PM
1256 posts...1256 all of them more useless than the last, not counting the 5k or so more in RnF


delete your account and stop posting forever, it would be a massive step towards purification here, probably the outright cure.

sorry I guess I ignored you, apologies.

How goes being a shit guild on EQmac again? I do love hearing that story.

Gwence
04-18-2012, 06:18 PM
you responded to me in record time yet again, I wouldn't call that ignoring

you're so mad right now, I think we should stop I don't want you taking your anger out on your dog or something.

muttonchops
04-18-2012, 06:31 PM
EQ is what we the players make of it, and on p99 we've made an ugly clusterfuck of what should be a really special server. I really don't get what is so fun and fulfilling about this idea of "competition" on a 13 year old game. 24/7 raiding, racing, training, FTE rule lawyering... that's your idea of fun competition? There are plenty of games out there that offer real competition in the form of functional PVP. EQ is not one of them, and the idea that the tactics used here are somehow something to be proud of, or enjoyable for anyone involved, is baffling to me.

EQ at its best is about cooperation and community, not about stomping on each others throats and being complete douchebags to each other. I know this will sound like a crazy concept to some, but EQ really is more fun if you just relax, work with other guilds rather than against them, and log into a PVP or FPS game when you need to take out your aggression.

Well said. Thankfully the asshatery seems mostly self-contained to big ticket items/mobs. It's a shame for those who want to experience other parts of EQ, but so be it. Competition is all well and good, but at some point a sport stops being a sport when you have to continuously stop the game and review each play with both sides arguing and cheating and taking cheap shots. If I wanted that, I'd just watch reruns of Jerry Springer. Camaraderie is much better imo.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 06:46 PM
By no one else you mean, you and your 5 or 6 other butt buddies?

People that believe me don't post here, they aren't idiots like you and me.

No I mean everyone here.
People that believe me don't post here lol so you subscribe to unattainable proof and followers?
*There are at least 2 logical fallacies here 25 pts for 2 correct identifies

Lazortag
04-18-2012, 07:46 PM
So when does Gore's window open? I remember her dying not too long ago but I forgot to write down the TOD.

Paumad
04-18-2012, 07:57 PM
8:25pm today

Splorf22
04-18-2012, 08:11 PM
EQ is what we the players make of it, and on p99 we've made an ugly clusterfuck of what should be a really special server. I really don't get what is so fun and fulfilling about this idea of "competition" on a 13 year old game. 24/7 raiding, racing, training, FTE rule lawyering... that's your idea of fun competition? There are plenty of games out there that offer real competition in the form of functional PVP. EQ is not one of them, and the idea that the tactics used here are somehow something to be proud of, or enjoyable for anyone involved, is baffling to me.

EQ at its best is about cooperation and community, not about stomping on each others throats and being complete douchebags to each other. I know this will sound like a crazy concept to some, but EQ really is more fun if you just relax, work with other guilds rather than against them, and log into a PVP or FPS game when you need to take out your aggression. The raid culture here is so incredibly messed up... it's really much worse than it ever was on live, and that's a damn shame.

+1. Been trying to say this for a while now, but without a lot of success.

Grozmok
04-18-2012, 08:48 PM
EQ is what we the players make of it, and on p99 we've made an ugly clusterfuck of what should be a really special server. I really don't get what is so fun and fulfilling about this idea of "competition" on a 13 year old game. 24/7 raiding, racing, training, FTE rule lawyering... that's your idea of fun competition? There are plenty of games out there that offer real competition in the form of functional PVP. EQ is not one of them, and the idea that the tactics used here are somehow something to be proud of, or enjoyable for anyone involved, is baffling to me.

EQ at its best is about cooperation and community, not about stomping on each others throats and being complete douchebags to each other. I know this will sound like a crazy concept to some, but EQ really is more fun if you just relax, work with other guilds rather than against them, and log into a PVP or FPS game when you need to take out your aggression. The raid culture here is so incredibly messed up... it's really much worse than it ever was on live, and that's a damn shame.

/signed

Flunklesnarkin
04-18-2012, 08:48 PM
don't a lot of those free guild websites have built in ToD trackers nowadays?


just plug in ToD and variance window and it pops up for members on website when the window opens.

somnia
04-18-2012, 10:26 PM
No I mean everyone here.
People that believe me don't post here lol so you subscribe to unattainable proof and followers?
*There are at least 2 logical fallacies here 25 pts for 2 correct identifies

The freshman philosopher at it again.

Alarti0001
04-18-2012, 10:28 PM
The freshman philosopher at it again.

Sorry i use my rational brain instead of my primitive brain

somnia
04-18-2012, 10:37 PM
Oh?

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0l8dbWnJ31rnrwsbo2_500.jpg

Maytone
04-19-2012, 12:04 AM
Truth

VD Had a total of 12 people log in to help kill Talendor(after two wipes from tmo/other guild), TMO freaked out and logged in 20+ not counting there lil app guild. Clearly VD is trying to stop the tmo's "endangered species list" at 4AM with 12 people

Alarti0001
04-19-2012, 01:42 AM
Truth

VD Had a total of 12 people log in to help kill Talendor(after two wipes from tmo/other guild), TMO freaked out and logged in 20+ not counting there lil app guild. Clearly VD is trying to stop the tmo's "endangered species list" at 4AM with 12 people

Capslock doesnt make everything you say true

Fists
04-19-2012, 02:55 AM
Lets all reflect back on the release of Kunark, when TMO was the shit bin of the server, tmo break fear yet?

Maze513
04-19-2012, 06:17 AM
so Im confused we going all out RnF on this one still? I love some spicey server chat, Burn It down

maverixdamighty
04-19-2012, 06:41 AM
I just started app'ing TMO so I know whatever I post will probably be discredited off the bat, but I kind of see the guild in a no win situation when it comes to server perception. People complain that they are monopolozing everything so they do something like this and people still find something to complain about. From what I've seen if they wanted to keep every mob dead they most likely would.

Ikonoclastia
04-19-2012, 06:47 AM
I just started app'ing TMO so I know whatever I post will probably be discredited off the bat, but I kind of see the guild in a no win situation when it comes to server perception. People complain that they are monopolozing everything so they do something like this and people still find something to complain about. From what I've seen if they wanted to keep every mob dead they most likely would.
this is true buuiuuut it makes for interestung readin while I take a poo

tekniq
04-19-2012, 10:49 AM
I just started app'ing TMO so I know whatever I post will probably be discredited off the bat, but I kind of see the guild in a no win situation when it comes to server perception. People complain that they are monopolozing everything so they do something like this and people still find something to complain about. From what I've seen if they wanted to keep every mob dead they most likely would.

Pretty sure if <Explorers of Norrath> wanted to,they could dominate the server, but they choose not to.

Velion
04-19-2012, 12:51 PM
Capslock doesnt make everything you say true

....................................

Gwence
04-19-2012, 02:11 PM
alarti is capslock the same as bolded font?

your intelligence is unmatched sir

Alarti0001
04-19-2012, 02:17 PM
alarti is capslock the same as bolded font?

your intelligence is unmatched sir

Man you are stupid. There is three messages in my previous statement see if you can pull your head out of your ass long enough to find one

Lol! I was fishing for someone, but caught you instead. I am glad you are back though its always fun to read you irrational mouth drivel. How is raiding without competition on eqmac, getting a few kills now?

Zeelot
04-19-2012, 03:27 PM
To be honest. TMOs entry to the raid scene was not hardcore. I decided to make TMO a hardcore raiding guild right before kunark release. The only reason I decided this was in response to IB's actions at TMOs first ever nagafen attempt.

At this naggy, an IB member named Olympia aggrod naggy and kited for 40 seconds, TMO engaged and killed it with some IB help(8-12 people) and IB was awarded the kill. This was after numerous tells by kinsawt throughout the day that IB would give TMO and uncontested attempt.

There's something wrong when the #1 guild does this to a brand new up and coming guild on the server.

It was at this point in time that I decided the raid scene needs a new #1 guild and that IB needed to go.

Alarti0001
04-19-2012, 03:36 PM
To be honest. TMOs entry to the raid scene was not hardcore. I decided to make TMO a hardcore raiding guild right before kunark release. The only reason I decided this was in response to IB's actions at TMOs first ever nagafen attempt.

At this naggy, an IB member named Olympia aggrod naggy and kited for 40 seconds, TMO engaged and killed it with some IB help(8-12 people) and IB was awarded the kill. This was after numerous tells by kinsawt throughout the day that IB would.give TMO and uncontested attempt.

There's something wrong when the #1 guild does this to a brand new up and coming guild on the server.

It was at this point in time that I decided the raid scene needs a new #1 guild and that IB needed to go.

Dear Leader

Gwence
04-19-2012, 04:38 PM
Man you are stupid. There is three messages in my previous statement see if you can pull your head out of your ass long enough to find one

Lol! I was fishing for someone, but caught you instead. I am glad you are back though its always fun to read you irrational mouth drivel. How is raiding without competition on eqmac, getting a few kills now?

Your attempts at covering your idiocy fail yet again, then to follow it up you ask a question that I can direct right back at you.

Only difference you're stuck with VP (insert #).

somnia
04-19-2012, 05:47 PM
Man you are stupid. There is three messages in my previous statement see if you can pull your head out of your ass long enough to find one

Lol! I was fishing for someone, but caught you instead. I am glad you are back though its always fun to read you irrational mouth drivel. How is raiding without competition on eqmac, getting a few kills now?

Dang how often do you insult intelligence in your posts? Does somebody in your real life put you down and call you stupid on a daily basis?

Enygma
04-19-2012, 06:02 PM
Your attempts at covering your idiocy fail yet again, then to follow it up you ask a question that I can direct right back at you.

Only difference you're stuck with VP (insert #).

Dear Gwence,

You may be too stupid to realize... you and your guild quit... so why you so mad bro?

Still sore from getting banned for being a Cheating / training fuck head like the rest of IB?

/comfort

Alarti0001
04-19-2012, 06:04 PM
Your attempts at covering your idiocy fail yet again, then to follow it up you ask a question that I can direct right back at you.

Only difference you're stuck with VP (insert #).

Gwence proving he is to inept to compete yet again, however this time its with a deficient mind instead of a deficient guild

Considering you left the server because you couldn't compete, the question doesn't flesh with reality. We were getting the majority of the kills when you left, and now we are getting an even larger majority.

Alarti0001
04-19-2012, 06:07 PM
Dang how often do you insult intelligence in your posts? Does somebody in your real life put you down and call you stupid on a daily basis?


It is the duty of any rational person to point out inconsistencies and illogical thinking. My posts generally are not attacks but are a bits of reason designed to shock reasoning minds into reconsidering their positions. Your pugnacious attacks show that you are too entrenched into you beliefs to consider other thoughts.
So I hope you enjoy the very few you have.

somnia
04-19-2012, 06:11 PM
It is the duty of any rational person to point out inconsistencies and illogical thinking. My posts generally are not attacks but are a bits of reason designed to shock reasoning minds into reconsidering their positions. Your pugnacious attacks show that you are too entrenched into you beliefs to consider other thoughts.
So I hope you enjoy the very few you have.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110817043545/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/d/d1/Oh-he-mad.jpg

Alarti0001
04-19-2012, 06:48 PM
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110817043545/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/d/d1/Oh-he-mad.jpg

Lol....you wish

Enygma
04-19-2012, 07:03 PM
Uh... TMO

Sure, VD is a catalyst for it all, but we are just trying to have fun here. Do you expect us to just never raid again?

that is our expectation... thx for trying/

Grozmok
04-19-2012, 07:16 PM
The drama in this thread is off the charts.

Thanks for that.

Excellio
04-19-2012, 07:28 PM
I retract my earlier entry into this contest and submit instead the previous posts.

Holey
04-21-2012, 01:50 PM
popcorn anyone?

quido
04-21-2012, 01:53 PM
Shut up, Holey.

somnia
04-23-2012, 08:03 AM
<iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/F0WDhfXRJOk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

kingsBlend
07-21-2013, 02:18 AM
bump