View Full Version : Game Mechanics: Weapon Skill-Ups bugged?
Slave
05-14-2012, 12:07 AM
(Amelinda - i screwed up merging posts :( this was the original Original OP:)
Coming back to EQ from a long time, now, I may just be retarded but I'm level 5 and my 1HB is still at (2) and hasn't skilled up once.. I put the 1 training point in it at the beginning, what's going on here?
Quite a few people seem to have experienced extremely slow skill-ups for weapon skills.
I can post some logs if desired.
Slave:
Others have mentioned extremely slow combat skill-ups lately, I wonder if it is a bug.
Wudan
05-14-2012, 02:08 AM
Coming back to EQ from a long time, now, I may just be retarded but I'm level 5 and my 1HB is still at (2) and hasn't skilled up once.. I put the 1 training point in it at the beginning, what's going on here? :confused:
looks like bug to me
bizzum
05-14-2012, 02:18 AM
I leveled my 2HS up 100ish points in a 2 hour period the other day, was slow, but not that slow.
Phased
05-14-2012, 03:09 AM
They're not too bad depending on what your dexterity skill is.
nymphloa
05-14-2012, 03:23 AM
They're not too bad depending on what your dexterity skill is.
My Ogre warrior has over 150 dex unbuffed, he is level 23 now and his defense skill is like 20 points off max, his weapons skills suck as well and I am struggling to keep them up. I started working on 2hs myself and that went up like 7 points in a 2 hour period.
So I doubt this issue is based on Dex...I was starting to think it was int based.
Peace,
colleekitty
05-14-2012, 03:42 AM
I was wondering the same thing myself. Bought my level 20 monk a Wu's Quivering Staff yesterday and headed to lake of ill omen. My husband's druid healed me as I killed mobs ranging from dark blue to yellow. I got 1 skill up out of 50-something mobs.
Thought I was having a streak of bad luck, but if others are having the same problem there might be a problem.
LiQuid
05-14-2012, 04:28 AM
I've been having a heck of a time getting my 2hb skill up too, but I assumed it was just cause I was playing a stupid ogre...
CrowsNest
05-14-2012, 04:29 AM
Havin same problem aswell
Galvatar
05-14-2012, 04:49 AM
Now that you mention it, it does seem like my alts take awhile to raise their weapon skills. I don't play a lot of melee, so I just assumed it was normal.
Because the game hates us, you see.
ArumTP
05-14-2012, 04:58 AM
Playing my 17 paladin in oasis full group, continuous pulls, ran from dark blues to yellows. I was maxing my weapon skills every orange bubble, but on the other hand other skills such as bash/taunt I was raising to max by the 3rd pull into level. Other non-activated melee skills were also raising much quicker, maybe half the orange bubble before those would max.
Caridry
05-14-2012, 09:28 AM
Going to have to agree, skillups taking a painful amount of time going up.
batkiller
05-14-2012, 10:23 AM
I noticed one or two other things I thought might be bugs too. For example I died the other night and respawned with no mana.
Destan
05-14-2012, 12:22 PM
I can also confirm that skill-ups are rarer than lottery winnings right now. Trying to keep 1hb and 2hb at max is impossible, I have both hovering around half of what they could be. I still need to add piercing into the mix, but am having a hell of a time just keeping up with the other two...
Nirgon
05-14-2012, 12:26 PM
Smack things while lfg
Trying to keep 1hb and 2hb at max is impossible
Leveling in Everquest is impossible (inb4 at this current xp rate lol).
bilbobaggins
05-14-2012, 12:29 PM
same issue as all of the above posters on my warrior. i typically can only keep one weapon skill close to the max as i level up. and during a hell level i can sometimes get a second weapon skill close to caught up.
this is limited to weapon skills though. the other combat skills like offense, defense, dual weild, etc.. all seem to skill up fairly quickly. it is just the weapon skills that take an absurd amount of time to go up.
Phased
05-14-2012, 12:43 PM
My Ogre warrior has over 150 dex unbuffed, he is level 23 now and his defense skill is like 20 points off max, his weapons skills suck as well and I am struggling to keep them up. I started working on 2hs myself and that went up like 7 points in a 2 hour period.
So I doubt this issue is based on Dex...I was starting to think it was int based.
Peace,
My ogre warrior is 19 and has 1HB and 1HS capped, 2HB is 50 and that took about an hour.
But when I got a VoG and shaman dexterity buff and with 232 dex I was getting 1-3 skill ups every mob. Please tell me you're not fighting red con mobs with an Oggok Cleaver.
The first 20 skill ups take longer than the next 80.
choster
05-14-2012, 01:13 PM
Lvl 22 shammy here. I've been trying to get a second weapon skill maxed since I hit level 12... I can keep piercing maxed, 1hb at cap-10, and 2hb at cap-50.
It is partly weapon based as my blunt weapons are trash. Still, I seem to cap piercing within the 1st orange bubble, and then the next 4 bubbles net at most 4 skill ups.
Grimmly Fireforge
05-14-2012, 09:42 PM
Coming back to EQ from a long time, now, I may just be retarded but I'm level 5 and my 1HB is still at (2) and hasn't skilled up once.. I put the 1 training point in it at the beginning, what's going on here? :confused:
See this thread: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74689
Quite a few people seem to have experienced extremely slow skill-ups for weapon skills.
I can post some logs if desired.
Timarian
05-15-2012, 06:19 AM
My Warrior is lvl 6 and his defense and offense are still lvl (13) where as all my other skills are maxed at 30 and 35. I can train them and they just dont seem to be going up.
Whereas my lvl 9 druid has higher defense and offense than my warrior.
Definately some bugs there imo.
It catches up later just fine when the leveling slows down (Don't worry it will).
Also skill up rate is effected by DEX, so if your DEX blows that could explain it being under leveled pre-20.
Shouldn't be an issue after that as long as your putting any effort into keeping it capped.
Maze513
05-15-2012, 07:29 AM
i smell an imposter! /\ =p
Destan
05-15-2012, 10:49 AM
Please take a look at this, something is definitely off. They are going up, just...slowly.
Have to agree on this. Something definetly seems out of whack.
Treats
05-15-2012, 01:28 PM
Skill ups are very slow on EQMac, sounds like this was fixed on P99.
Destan
05-15-2012, 01:49 PM
Skill ups are very slow on EQMac, sounds like this was fixed on P99.
Naa, on live I could easily keep multiple weapons at cap, every level. That was from March '99 onward.
So far here I'm about 18 points below cap on my 1hb (and that's with constant melee), and I haven't even begun to work on my peircing. Either my luck (and many others) is incredibly terrible, or there's a minor issue in determining the chance for a skill-up here. And this is my 1hb from level 1-18, it should be moving along nicely this low yet it's not.
mwatt
05-15-2012, 08:04 PM
I have noticed the same thing. Skill ups are very slow now on some types of skills - weapon skills for sure. To the point that they appear to be stuck for the cap of the current level and will not advance until you reach the next level.
Indeed something has changed and it isn't right. There was a coding change made to skillups or caps in a recent patch (don't remember who/what/when). It is very likely that the change from that recent patch has had this unforseen negative impact.
Weekapaug
05-15-2012, 09:16 PM
I've noticed exceedingly slow weapon skillups on multiple characters. A Rogue, Bard and Shaman, to be specific. Like others have said, you can keep one maxxed but anything beyond that is going to lag.
Defense skillups seem kind of slow too....let a decayed skelly beat on a level 3 toon for about an hour or more the other day before I hit 15 defense. It should be slowish but that's a lot more extreme than anything I ever remember on live, at that level at least. If you let it lag and are trying to catchup at higher levels, it was always rather slow. Painfully slow. But when you are in the level window of the skill level it should be fairly steady capping out. Especially at low levels.
kanras
05-16-2012, 12:55 AM
Lower skill levels will increase somewhat faster, pending update.
Wolfgang
05-16-2012, 12:58 AM
havent had a problem with my lowbie alts but cant complain about faster skills ups. if you arent getting PLed and soloing blues/lb shouldnt be a prob .
Grimmly Fireforge
05-18-2012, 10:17 PM
Lower skill levels will increase somewhat faster, pending update.
Thanks!
Does this mean its changed right now or not until the next patch? Because it's still really bad in-game right now. Sorry for the stupid question. Also.. if the answer is the latter, ETA on the next patch? xD Thank you
Palemoon
05-18-2012, 10:41 PM
Lower skill levels will increase somewhat faster, pending update.
One of the first things I noticed soon after comming to this EMU was how fast weapon skills went up. (think i even made a post about it)
What ive seen since last patch is a lot closer to how I recall it being in classic.
Destan
05-19-2012, 05:20 PM
One of the first things I noticed soon after comming to this EMU was how fast weapon skills went up. (think i even made a post about it)
What ive seen since last patch is a lot closer to how I recall it being in classic.
What did you play in classic?
I played a ranger, and could easily have my 1hs, 1hb, and piercing at cap, every level. I would keep spare weapons just for that purpose, then switch back to my primary 1-handers.
I made a new toon just after the last patch, and haven't been able to keep even one weapon skill at max. My 1hb is currently 16 points below cap (89 with a cap of 105), and nothing else is even halfway there. Skill-ups aren't impossible, but something is slightly off. At level 21, meleeing the entire time, I shouldn't be 16 points below the weapon cap on my primary skill. That wasn't classic....
EQsale
05-19-2012, 06:03 PM
It seems to be more then just weapon skill ups being effected,
Ive tried to level up some intruments skillups and the shit wont even move,
What did you play in classic?
I played a ranger, and could easily have my 1hs, 1hb, and piercing at cap, every level. I would keep spare weapons just for that purpose, then switch back to my primary 1-handers.
I made a new toon just after the last patch, and haven't been able to keep even one weapon skill at max. My 1hb is currently 16 points below cap (89 with a cap of 105), and nothing else is even halfway there. Skill-ups aren't impossible, but something is slightly off. At level 21, meleeing the entire time, I shouldn't be 16 points below the weapon cap on my primary skill. That wasn't classic....
QFT
Palemoon
05-19-2012, 07:54 PM
What did you play in classic?
I played a ranger, and could easily have my 1hs, 1hb, and piercing at cap, every level. I would keep spare weapons just for that purpose, then switch back to my primary 1-handers.
I made a new toon just after the last patch, and haven't been able to keep even one weapon skill at max. My 1hb is currently 16 points below cap (89 with a cap of 105), and nothing else is even halfway there. Skill-ups aren't impossible, but something is slightly off. At level 21, meleeing the entire time, I shouldn't be 16 points below the weapon cap on my primary skill. That wasn't classic....
I played a troll SK in 1999.
Skill ups were like "mini levels" , the slow progression of your character in the world. I even recall articles about the game referencing them as part of the "hook" of your character, the slow feeding of rewards and advancement.
Getting skill ups in classic was something you took notice of.
How it was before the last patch, was defiently not classic. Like I said I noticed it right away when I started playing on this emu, and posted about it.
Grimmly Fireforge
05-19-2012, 08:04 PM
I played from shortly before Kunark was released until 2003/4. If anything how was before last patch was 10x closer to how it was on live than it currently is.
Right now is not classic, anyway. It's Kunark. It definitely was nowhere near this excrutiatingly brutal in Kunark, much less classic.
Bohab
05-20-2012, 05:26 PM
Hope the update happens soon. :( Pretty much can't play on this server till then...
Grimmly Fireforge
05-22-2012, 01:56 AM
Hey I was wondering if the update happened yet? So I can start playing again. :-3
Phinger
05-24-2012, 12:41 PM
This is a big hindrance to me. Im a level 4 monk and my 1hb and 2hb skills are both at 3. I can barely kill whites. I wasn't around in classic but this can't be right. All my kick, dodge, dual wield, etc are where they should be (20s).
EQsale
05-28-2012, 11:33 AM
VERY HARD to level a class that needs there weapon skills at max level to acually do damage.
please fix this and dont push it off till amonth+ later your hurting the small PoP we got.
Can you please fix this issue already it's impossible to play on the server as-is until you fix it.. Thank you
Bill Tetley
06-01-2012, 04:09 PM
Any word on applying this patch? It's been over a month since the last patch... This is kind of a big deal and isn't helping the server population. Pleeeeeease apply soon :p
Drone
06-01-2012, 07:54 PM
havent had a problem with my lowbie alts but cant complain about faster skills ups. if you arent getting PLed and soloing blues/lb shouldnt be a prob .
I rerolled a warrior the other day because the one I got to lvl 11 still had 32 Defense. I made sure not to do quest turn-in's or group up, just solo, getting beat on. At level 8 I have 22 Defense. This is no good for a warrior. :confused:
ArumTP
06-01-2012, 11:09 PM
Weapon skill ups effected. Not defense/offense etc. You're just got terrible luck.
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