Lvl 35 ENC LFG, or, where can I get some damn exp?

[August]

Hi all,

Hit 35 on my ENC awhile ago and it seems grouping has dried up. I did newb areas / CB til 12, then Unrest, then Mistmoore til 35.

Now, for real exp it seems like my options are:

Solb
Lguk
Paw
Kedge Keep

However, if I do a /who on these zones I see usually <6 people. I try and make groups but I need a tank and a healer, and I can almost never usually find a group.

I am in a guild, but no one seems to play during my hours, or if they do, they are a DPS.

Am I missing zones I shouldn't be overlooking? Even in Overthere I see maybe a singular group.

Will it pick up again? I basically flew to 35 because groups were so plentiful, only to sit on my hands hoping someone will need my enchanter capabilities.

In-game name is Tomtee. If you need an 35 ENC, I'm your man

Tomtee

[eqravenprince]

Kedge Keep entrance will be the best experience in the game for you. Hardest part is getting people to come. Start with a Druid cause they can port everyone else.

[RahlaeRuffian]

You may do well in Frontier Mountains as well...whether it be solo or in a group at the giant fort.

[August]

Both of your replies are fine but both are zones I check. I've never seen more than 4 people in FM and when I do a /who kedge I get 0 players.

I guess what I'm wondering is should I expect it to be a hassle from here on out to get a group? Used to be I could put on LFG when I logged on and get a group invite within a couple of minutes. Now I can sit all night with it on and never get a single message.

[SamwiseRed]

Stay in mm til 40. Castle Ent a good spot

[Splorf22]

Its true 35-50 is the black hole for groups. Solb is probably your best bet, or you could always just stay at MM till 40 or so. You can also find groups in the Dreadlands near the Karnors wall. The XP is mediocre compared to a dungeon but people like it because its hard to die.

The good news is that things pick up at 50+ when you can hit KC.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Grab a second enchanter, and you can AE all of the MM castle. I leveled 29-39 that way.

2 enchanters, 2 wizards (MUST have researched PBAoEs), cleric, and a bard.

[joppykid]

Both of your replies are fine but both are zones I check. I've never seen more than 4 people in FM and when I do a /who kedge I get 0 players.

I guess what I'm wondering is should I expect it to be a hassle from here on out to get a group? Used to be I could put on LFG when I logged on and get a group invite within a couple of minutes. Now I can sit all night with it on and never get a single message.

When people are /role or /anon this isn't always accurate. Be better off sending someone in zone a tell asking how many people are there. Was in FM other night and there was 2 grps at Giant fort. Grouping is still definitely harder in the mid lvls.

[August]

I feel as what I'm saying is not really being understood. I have no desire to go about forming a very specific group.

While I would LOVE to do a PBAOE group, i think this would be even harder than finding a traditional group. I know that there are zones that have monsters my level, and that I could myself form a group (assuming I can find an appropriate level tank/healer) and go there.

I'm speaking to the fact that up thru 35 there were zones were there were active groups ALWAYS that I could join. I was expecting this to extend as I went up to 50 past 35, however I don't see any kind of critical mass of people in any zone.

I guess I have my answer (thanks Splorf). 35-50 sucks ass and there is nothing to do about it.

[SamwiseRed]

August stay in mm til 40. Almost everyone I leveled up with did the at 40 you'll easily get a group in solb. You are trying to go to higher level dungeons too early where half your spells don't land so ofc there won't be many group invites unless they are just looking for a haste/clarity bot

[August]

August stay in mm til 40. Almost everyone I leveled up with did the at 40 you'll easily get a group in solb. You are trying to go to higher level dungeons too early where half your spells don't land so ofc there won't be many group invites unless they are just looking for a haste/clarity bot

I have been hanging around MM the problem is most groups only need 1 chanter. I can occasionally get a group there but there's only 1 spot in MM for a 35 ENC and if it's taken, I'm basically waiting for him/her to leave.

[Yinikren]

Go someplace awesome and solo while you wait. If groups are full or not being made, I don't consider it a wasteful evening to go solo something in CoM or OT or Dreadlands or spectres or something in half a dozen other zones while waiting to see what forms.

[Splorf22]

I have been hanging around MM the problem is most groups only need 1 chanter.

Not true at all; if you charm you are one of the best dps classes. On the other hand I haven't figured out how to make two bards work really.

[Ephirith]

35-38 MM CE
(If you have a good CE group, or one where most of the players are around 35 or higher, head into dhamp/CY if it's open!)

At 38 you have several options IMO, as an enchanter:
1. Solo Mistmoore to 40 (or group, I guess). To do this safely and effectively you need to know the zone pretty well, and know which spawns/mobs to just leave alone and invis past.

2. Go to SolB and hope for a group. Find a good duo class or a twinked hybrid melee (Paladin, ranger), and duo window. CHARM.

3. Go to Lower Guk and hope for a group. If you've got big balls, charm solo the ass/sup camp like I did.

At 40, Solb and Lguk become easier to solo and you're high enough to function significantly better there in a group. At 40 you can go to City of Mist and stay there until 50. There are places with better xp than City of Mist, but CoM has always been a pretty reliable place for me for several reasons:
-Usually at least one group going at all times.
-No casting mobs means groups almost never wipe
-No casting mobs means efficient killing
-Mobs don't flee
-Mobs are easy to pull in small numbers
-Easy to solo here while lfg

As an enchanter, if you're intrepid enough, you can solo almost anywhere in your level range. You're one of the few classes that is well equipped to handle casting mobs, and you're one of the most desirable classes for a group. Send tells to people in your range, even if they don't have LFG up!

[Kitsy]

You could easily solo in OT. Good open area and you can stay close to zone lines if your pulls go bad.

[shooteneq1]

once 40 CoM is fantastic, as noted above theres always people there, mobs dont flee, mobs are all melee, and its easy and safe to solo there if theres no grouping going on.

[Larethan]

In my experience . . .

Level's 35-40 seems to be the real question for most people that seem to be in despair about finding groups/xp. Also, this question tends to usually come from people who are tired of leveling at Mistmoore from 25-35. They probably think to themselves: "damn, there's got to be something better than this for another 5 levels!" . . .

Nope. In truth, nothing better. It's still Mistmoore until level 40 if you want the best chance to find a group quickly. It's not just about pure xp (even though Mistmoore is pretty high up there in xp), it's also about logistics: population, level-range, zone difficulty, etc etc.

I mean, think about down-time waiting for a group to form at Kedge or HHK etc due to low amounts of people. Also think about buffs from higher-levels that frequent the zone for their various tasks - I can't tell you how many times I've been power-leveled or buffed for free in Mistmoore by random 50+ toon that has some quest to run in the zone. And what about resurrections? What is the likelihood of finding a nearby cleric in a zone like HHK, versus Mistmoore, where clerics frequently stop by because they know that droves of people will always be waiting for a res? And what is the probability that even if you can find a group in a place like Sol A, that said group members will know anything about the zone? I once told a friend who invited me to his level 35 Sol A group: "no thanks, I don't want to die on the first pull because nobody remembers or uses that zone". The guy sent me a tell 20 minutes later: . . . "We all died on the first pull, you were right".

Populated zones like Mistmoore may be an annoying bitch with trains, obnoxious players, new players (not yet weeded out from the brutality of the game), warping and a variety of other irritations. But it is easily still the best zone to group in at 35-40. Take my word for it.


P.S. Forgot to mention that the only camp you should do 35-40 in Mistmoore is Castle Entrance (CE). And do it by pulling from the castle. Do not take group into the castle unless you are prepared to die and have a rogue/cleric to drag your bodies out and resurrect. Also, groups from 40-50 were much easier to find in my leveling experience.

[eqravenprince]

Kedge will definitely have to be a place you form a group, but well worth it. If I had 3 hours to group, I would rather spend an hour forming a group to go to Kedge than go anywhere else and maybe get into a group quicker. Or you can just level at a snail's pace elsewhere.

[eqravenprince]

I guess what I'm wondering is should I expect it to be a hassle from here on out to get a group? Used to be I could put on LFG when I logged on and get a group invite within a couple of minutes. Now I can sit all night with it on and never get a single message.

Hassle, depends on what you define as hassle. So far if all you have done is put your /LFG tag on and gotten groups, then you are quite fortunate. You may have to put in a small amount of effort going forward, but honestly as an Enchanter you are one of the most sought after classes in the game. Shouldn't be too much of an issue. At the very least, there are a ton of people out soloing that would probably love to have an enchanter with them.

[Ephirith]

zones like Mistmoore may be an annoying bitch with trains, obnoxious players, new players (not yet weeded out from the brutality of the game), warping and a variety of other irritations. But it is easily still the best zone to group in at 35-40. Take my word for it.

You make an excellent point with the benefits of a zone being familiar. Technically, the best XP I've ever gotten 35-40 was in Kaesora and that was with a non-optimal group. It was insane. But it's out of the way, and we wiped a few times.

The castle isn't a death sentence, you just need either:
1. A puller who knows the castle really well
2. A good enchanter/bard

I've had many successful groups in the castle with no wipes, and it's very rewarding.

Try hard to find a good core of competent people and try out-of-the-way zones. I did it on one of my characters, leveled all over the world with a smart enchanter and druid, and it was the best experience I've ever had leveling.

[Sloshed]

As an enchanter who had those issues I found my fastest exp was finding my charm spell. I could solo faster than I could get exp in any group. I went to Firiona Vie and charmed low level drolvargs and pirates till 40 and then started picking up the higher level dogs. You can then move up to the giant fort in the NE part of the zone and charm those guys till 48 or 49. I could get a level in about 4-5 hours solo and thats with taking a bunch of afk's to do other things.

If you get tired of soloing you are close enough to run to FM and the OT and try to find a group. I also would solo with my lfg tag up and occasionally get a group that way.

[Elements]

Mistmoore is still great until about 40. Head to CE or the pit area and charm solo yourself about a yellow per mana pool. Crazy xp there.

[falkun]

As has been stated many times in this thread - charm.

Solo charming will be faster than grouping.
ENCs stack because they charm for amazing DPS.
Bards don't stack well at all (its really hard Loraen. I've tried, like you, but it fails every time. Thankfully, bards stack well with enc/sham.)

[bigups43]

Hit up HHK guards man. Thats what I did on my chanter. Rocked goblins in HHK then did guards until like 42 or something. Then you can do DL.

[webrunner5]

Try this thread. http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86713

[Swish]

Paineel guards are very undercamped and an excellent choice for enchanters if you enjoy charming.

Assuming you're agnostic...

Stick your erudite illusion on, say "I needz keyz" to one of the guards at the newbie area, get into Paineel...and hunt around for some dark blue con guards (they scale up, you can start in teh 20s I think).

Charm one/attack another, let them go at it... make sure your pet survives with around 10% health. Cancel charm, nuke pet... (usual charm script).

No faction hit on Paineel guards, bank/vendors on site to sell weps and keep your weight down from the FS weps they drop...and the best part is there's rarely a soul in sight.

Great semi-afk camp, great camp generally... don't forget to bind, just in case.

[Barkingturtle]

Charm one/attack another, let them go at it... make sure your pet survives with around 10% health. Cancel charm, nuke pet... (usual charm script).


Kinda.

1.Root a mob.
2.Charm the rooted mob.
3.Haste the pet.
4.Break charm, keep rooted.
5.Charm a mob and force it to crush itself upon the hasted, rooted mob.
6.Break charm when pet's hp get low.
7.Nuke it dead.
8.Reapply root.
9.Repeat from step 5.

That way you avoid having your pet steal experience. Least that's how I do it.

[Nordenwatch]

Kaesora is 110 ZEM, I don't know why there aren't groups in there all the time.

Yes, the cleric mobs are slightly annoying... see your local paladin, cleric, necro, enchanter, bard for stuns.

[Silo69]

go to hhk

find Osargan

Charm him

He backstabs for 175, double attacks for 75...

you wont find a more opd pet your lvl

kill anything in zone but ran flame spinner

lvl 50+ profit?

[August]

While I appreciate everyones comments, I didn't roll an enchanter to solo my way to the top. I liked ENCs because they were sought after in groups. I am aware of my options to charm, however I find charming... exhausting. And totally not what I want to do. I'd much rather play a mage/necro to solo than an enchanter.

Regardless, thanks all. This post gave me some publicity and I've gotten quite a few group invites as of late. Finally broke out of hell-35 as well.

See you guys IN GAME

TOMTEE OUT