Plane Mobs drop chances

[Yinaltin]

so i start my first whine tread cause whats this crap ? i didnt want to wait till kurnak to get necro items in the planes ? i mean c´mon , 5 !!! Boogeyman that have a chance of ? like 10 % to drop items ? whats that ? . only 5 (five) mobs that can drop specific necro gear . how much amygdalan knights are there ? like 30 ? 40 ? . how much clerics of innoruk are in poh ? like 30 ? . ashenboren drakes ? like 20 ? spinechillers ? like 30 ? so whats that crap ? gorgons , kirakiuis ... TONS of em . yeah yeah clerics and melees should get their full plane outfit fast and stuff and its ok but what about druids and necros ? i heared DA did about 30 ! pof raids to get 1 ! necro robe at all ... during my raids we killed 25 boogeyman so far with only 1 ! item dropping...so yeah i know there is a revamp of the planes in kurnak but cant we make the numer of mobs (and drop chances)a lil more equal ?

bug: there are no word drops in the planes right now . please fix this .

[nilbog]

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[Yinaltin]

bug: there are no word drops in the planes right now . please fix this .
should be clear .

the rest : its not fair for one class to get only 5 possible dropchances from 5 mobs in total of a plane raid . we have 2 planes and only 5 mobs(and not types)in total can drop necro specific gear . other classes like wars or clerics or whatever have much more mobs that might possibly drop specific gear for them .
5 boogeyman = unfair
that easy :p

so can we either increase the % dropchances for these 5 boogeyman or can we add some more boogeymans in the plane to make it more fair for necros .

[mitic]

there is like 0 necro planar armor droping. up the ammount of bogeymans or up the drop rate

thats what he is basicly sayin

[mitic]

+ i can confirm the non existant drops for necros rite now

[nilbog]

bug: there are no word drops in the planes right now . please fix this .

Oh hell. We thought it was fixed. Was in the last patch notes but there must have been something left unfinished. I have verified this, and ensured they will drop pending patch.

Okay.. about boogeymen being unfair. There aren't supposed to be many of them. Clearing fearplane shouldn't yield much blighted.

Even if you look on allakhazams, it says things like:

Actually the Boogies drop Necromancer armor. There are typically three of them near the "Boogeyman House," with an occasional 4th or 5th roamer further to the East. Easy to pull if you stay away from their ghoul root.So i guess avout 1 piece every 3raids times 6pieces means i will have to go on about 18 raids to get all the pieces hehe. With this in mind, I looked at the spawn chances for frightfingers. They should both be rare. In response to this, the 2 eastern frightfinger wanderers may now be boogeymen instead. This gives the increased drop % for blighted, and ensures the rarity of frightfingers.

The drop rate % is the same as the rest of the npcs and will not be changing.

[quido]

I saw blighted gloves and robe drop last night in Fear.

[Yinaltin]

thx much nilbog :) lets see if we (necros) can stop crying soon :p

btw @ guido you had 2 !! necrogear drops ? woah . you run an own server ? either that or you just got verrry lucky :p

[Skope]

I think it's the chance of drops that's slightly low in general (with the exception of gear which seems to drop at a normal rate). I haven't seen words dropping in a very long time, and gems seem to drop at a somewhat low rate.

He is right about the ghouls though, which there does seem to be a lack of even if you consider that there weren't many ghouls to begin with.

[Nedala]

Can you also add some gorgons to PoF pls? only very few of them too :(

[Phallax]

I know Runes are dropping cant recall Words tho.
I also dont sit there and look at every item linked, so there may have been Words linked last night while we were in the planes.

[LazyFuj]

this is true, necros do get the shaft when it comes to plane gear.

[Gwence]

SK gear in fear is more scarce than necro, their certainly is not 30 "knights" the majority of the amygladans are warriors which cannot drop sk armor.

Your numbers on hate mobs are way off as well, I'd say max their is 12 clerics when zone is full pop, it may vary 10-15 range. No mob drops their class specific armor all that often, you have good clears and bad clears. The more you do, the more you get.

[dojo420]

i do not know where we are at on the patch-timescale but i found the following:
May 16, 2000 10:00 am
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***Patch Day***

*General Changes*
- Increased the number of frightfingers in the Plane of Fear.
Previously only 3 frightfingers would pop per respawn.

source: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2000-1.html

i think that change happened here already though it should be closer to kunark. maybe those new frightfingers were boogeymen before?

regarding words: haven't seen high level words drop of allizewsaur in a long time (about the same time as the words stopped dropping in planes).

[dali_lb]

Can't see the big problem ... yes it sucks to be a necro .. oh wait .. your the most powerfull class in game ...

Really. This is the way it always was on live too .. too few boogiemen, and tons of necroes before you have whined about it to Sony :eek:

It was the same way with pally drops. for each single pally armor that dropped, 2 or 3 SK's and Rogues got a full set of armor.

This was how it was on live classic, and P99 emulates live classic, so live with it ;)

[mitic]

Can't see the big problem ... yes it sucks to be a necro .. oh wait .. your the most powerfull class in game ...

Really. This is the way it always was on live too .. too few boogiemen, and tons of necroes before you have whined about it to Sony :eek:

It was the same way with pally drops. for each single pally armor that dropped, 2 or 3 SK's and Rogues got a full set of armor.

This was how it was on live classic, and P99 emulates live classic, so live with it ;)

i take you havent raided the planes on P99 yet. we have had several clears with like 0 necro drops but already fully decked out clerics

[Uaellaen]

It was the same way with pally drops. for each single pally armor that dropped, 2 or 3 SK's and Rogues got a full set of armor.

LOL most of our SKs looted full pally sets already, since they dont get theyr armor ;) its all luck based and random ...

[guineapig]

SK gear in fear is more scarce than necro, their certainly is not 30 "knights" the majority of the amygladans are warriors which cannot drop sk armor.

Can't agree with this either. Our SK's generally get geared within their first few raids.

But that being said, random is just that. I've been on raids with 3 armor drops worth mentioning and ones with 15.

[dali_lb]

The thing with pallies vs SK's and Rogues, was from Live.
Pally armor drops only from ... i hope i remember right .. "MALE"
fiends, wich always made funny commands ... and i remember farming
so many times to get full pally set, while on each farm trip SK's and Rogues got replaced because they got all their pieces. I'm not saying it is this way on P99 but there are still a whole lot more octapus men than male Fiends in Fear, so it isn't just random, if the drop % is the same for each mob, wich i believe it is, lot more SK armor will drop than pallies. Its the same with necro stuff. I agree with that necro drop ratio is sucky. Mainly because there is so few boogiemen spawns compared to other mob types. If the drop ratio is borked too its gotta be bad.

[Brut]

Can't agree with this either. Our SK's generally get geared within their first few raids.

What! Tons of fear raiding and I still lack bracer + bp. Pretty much only SK of ours with a nearly full set, others have a couple random pieces.
We've had raids where we clear whole plane and 0 umbrals drop off the amygs, just 1 piece came out of a blob.

On the other hand, one of our rogues had a full set of pally gear in bank, and I almost got my pally set completed too.

I srsly have long since suspected some code hidden in there that counts classes present when mobs die, then calculates a chance according to how many there are of them. Ie. 3 SKs = 1 SK drop... 0 PALs = 3 PAL drops.

[Phallax]

Its all about luck, Ive seen raids where TONS of armor drops and some where maybe 1-2 the whole raid. Also there arent that many golems in hate but Im not complaining thats just how it is, think i only recall 6-7 on Live. But the 1 thing abotu golems I hate here is theyre to big! a spite golem was barely taller than a human on live, like the ones in CT zone

[Mleh]

Can't agree with this either. Our SK's generally get geared within their first few raids.

But that being said, random is just that. I've been on raids with 3 armor drops worth mentioning and ones with 15.

Umbral is actually seemingly rare now, I got 1 piece per raid till i got 2 pieces 1 raid, havent seen any last 4 raids.

[Aadill]

I've got more Thorny Vine from Hate than I have from Fear.