Asus Sabertooth Z77 + 3770k: CPU Ratio Locked

[Rogean]

Ran into an odd problem after I moved my PC to clean and then had to reset bios because it wouldn't boot. Since it cleared out my OC settings I went to set them back up and it's refusing to let me set the CPU Ratio above 35. It's acting as if it is a locked CPU when it isn't. I had the multiplier at 46 for 8 months (give or take) and it worked fine.

Video: http://youtu.be/QXA9lrUG5Bc

Guise of the Deceive to anyone that provides a solution.

Here's what I've posted at other forums:

Short version of story: Used to be overclocked, no longer overclocked after a BIOS Reset and my multipler cannot be set above 35.

Long story:

I have a Sabertooth Z77 and a 3770k CPU. Until recently my cpu was overclocked with a 46 multiplier. This worked well for over 8 months.

Last weekend I shut my computer off and moved it to clean the space around it. After placing the computer back and booting up, I was not getting any video. After testing various things, I used the BIOS RESET jumper on the board and was able to get video. I put the jumper back into it's normal position.

Since this reset my bios I lost all my settings. I set back my RAID and decided to work with the overclock later.

I had some time tonight to start messing with it again so I reinstalled Asus Suite 2. I did not have the same options as I remember having with overclockability, so I decided to update my BIOS firmware to latest (1805). After that I still did not see any new options in the software, so I went into the BIOS.

I started messing around with options and realized it's not letting me change my CPU multiplier past 35. I've tried all sorts of combinations.. OC manual, OC XMP, turbo off, etc. I've attempted reverting firmware and no luck.

I made a video of the screen, as I figure this would be the best way for people to see all the settings I have and can see exactly whats going on. As soon as I enter any number above 35 in the CPU Ratio field, it resets it back to 35.

It's acting as if my CPU is locked, but it isn't (3770k).

Here is the video: http://youtu.be/QXA9lrUG5Bc

[Silvanarix]

Reinstall the latest version of the BIOS, and disable speedstep.

[Rogean]

Reinstall the latest version of the BIOS, this is a known issue =X

I've installed probably 4 different versions of the BIOS, still having the issue. Are you saying that it's been confirmed that reinstalling the BIOS until it works is a fix?

[Xclen]

I had this problem one time with a server computer. After many hours of forum searching and other various things, i found out I had to reseat my processor. I popped open my case, cleaned off the heat shield while i was in there, slapped in some new paste and placed it back down. Boot up comp and bam, it would allow me to change the ratio. I have NO idea why this was happening. But this fixed it.

[tommydgun]

yeah i was going to say the same thing. even though you reset bios i would check to make sure you have the most recent (compatible) bios to your processor. manufacturers sometimes set your computer to an old bios that actually isnt compatible with your mobo / cpu combination. check the compatibility for your mobo and processor combination and flash those bios. there are great standard instructions online for flashing bios

[Rogean]

yeah i was going to say the same thing. even though you reset bios i would check to make sure you have the most recent (compatible) bios to your processor. manufacturers sometimes set your computer to an old bios that actually isnt compatible with your mobo / cpu combination. check the compatibility for your mobo and processor combination and flash those bios. there are great standard instructions online for flashing bios

The BIOS worked for 8 months with the cpu ratio changed.. why would it suddenly not be compatible anymore? I don't think that's the case.

[Rogean]

I had this problem one time with a server computer. After many hours of forum searching and other various things, i found out I had to reseat my processor. I popped open my case, cleaned off the heat shield while i was in there, slapped in some new paste and placed it back down. Boot up comp and bam, it would allow me to change the ratio. I have NO idea why this was happening. But this fixed it.

I'd be really hesitant to do that and risk bending any pins and stuff. Those things can be a pita to come out sometimes.

[fezzik]

Have you changed the voltages at all? Is it locked with default settings? I would recommend reseating RAM and the processor...the temp sensor could be off. Take a can of air to the heatsink/fan and processor slot on mobo with the cpu removed.

[Xclen]

They are alot more resilient than ya think, and it should just easily come right up, and then gently slides right back in.. its scary if ya have never done it.. once ya do it once.. ya will toss them around like its nothing.

[Xclen]

oh and ps.. if this happened after ya cleaned out the comp.. sounds like i might be right cause you might have made it come loose when moving comp around.

[tommydgun]

just because a bios version doesnt support your processor doesnt mean your computer cant work for 8 months... my roommate had this issue where his computer was working fine and then all of the sudden was crashing constantly and we found that the entire time his bios did not support his cpu. its a simple check to see if they are compatible you dont have to flash the bios first but at least make sure. his mobo was also ASUS

[Slynker]

Did you set the mode to Standard and NOT Turbo? Then go to OC setting

[Stalahoy]

im on the hunt

[Furme]

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=713186

This guy seems to have the same problem

but he managed to fix it, check it out.. might help.

[Rogean]

Did you set the mode to Standard and NOT Turbo? Then go to OC setting

Watch the video

[Xer0]

I've read in some places there is an OC utility you can use, have you used tried that?

[Thulack]

They are alot more resilient than ya think, and it should just easily come right up, and then gently slides right back in.. its scary if ya have never done it.. once ya do it once.. ya will toss them around like its nothing.

^^

If your able to recreate EQ from 1999 your able to take out and put back in your CPU. Just don't sneeze :). As X said the pins are stronger then you think. Ive had to bend a few pins back in place on occasion i just use a flathead screwdriver to line it back up in place with the pins next to it.

[fezzik]

Also, run MEMTEST86 and make sure you don't have any bad ram...it could fudge with the bios. http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topic/246994-guide-to-using-memtest86/

[tommydgun]

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&m=SABERTOOTH%20Z77&hashedid=wMYmwl5uuG2ml3jJ

since BIOS 0801

[Sargonax]

Try using the + or - key on your keypad to move the values, i tried entering numbers directly into my bios and it just reset to the default value.

[Rogean]

Try using the + or - key on your keypad to move the values, i tried entering numbers directly into my bios and it just reset to the default value.

Maxes out at 35.

[Rogean]

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=713186

This guy seems to have the same problem

but he managed to fix it, check it out.. might help.

Read that thread earlier. Multiple people had the issue actually. None of their solutions have worked.

[Slynker]

Shits and giggles Ro.. you did physically move the unit.. So before we fuck the BIOS more.. start reseating MEM/Cards etc first.. I wouldn't fully reseat the Fan/CPU, just check to make sure it's still snug, you know machines get buggy as hell is a gnat sneezes around them at times.. Clear NV-Ram (again), Boot and check for POST .. No sense in over shooting basic shit..

[Riftstone]

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1039296628

[Rogean]

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&m=SABERTOOTH%20Z77&hashedid=wMYmwl5uuG2ml3jJ

since BIOS 0801

801 is the first bios that the board was created with.

[Rogean]

Shits and giggles Ro.. you did physically move the unit.. So before we fuck the BIOS more.. start reseating MEM/Cards etc first.. I wouldn't fully reseat the Fan/CPU, just check to make sure it's still snug, you know machines get buggy as hell is a gnat sneezes around them at times.. Clear NV-Ram (again), Boot and check for POST .. No sense in over shooting basic shit..

Before I actually hard reset cmos (battery removal), can you confirm that ONBOARD intel raid controllers won't be affected? The motherboard holds my raid 0 for my SSD's. If that goes I'd be fuuuuucked.

[Rogean]

Before I actually hard reset cmos (battery removal), can you confirm that ONBOARD intel raid controllers won't be affected? The motherboard holds my raid 0 for my SSD's. If that goes I'd be fuuuuucked.

I'm pretty sure it would be fine actually...

[Silvanarix]

It seems that most other people ran into this issue after a heat related issue. I highly suggest reseating your processor.

I have read through alot of forums now, reseat the PRC, its quite simple. If you want to take other steps before that, then flash your BIOS from outside of the OS.

Another thing you can try is shutting down the computer, removing the power cord and holding down the power button for 10-15seconds to drain all remaining power from the PC(flea power), then turn it back on and try again.

[cimarron]

Here is a great guide that i think if you follow will fix your problem.

http://www.mediafire.com/?l34d6j6c4wqfx69

-Cimarron

[Rogean]

Actually removing the battery would just accomplish what I did in the first place, which was using the cmos reset jumpers. I might just try that again though.

[Sargonax]

I have a z77 myself altho a different bios version, I notice when I change my 'turbo mode' and the ' intel speedboost' tabs to disabled, and then increase the cpu ratio manually, the bios automaticly changes the speedboost and turbo modes to enabled.

Perhaps try leaving them enabled instead of manually disabling them and then increasing the value.

[Slynker]

Imo.. start physical.. I tend to over TS basic shit and jump into the meat of things.. then start where I should have.. hindsight = a bitch

[Rogean]

I have a z77 myself altho a different bios version, I notice when I change my 'turbo mode' and the ' intel speedboost' tabs to disabled, and then increase the cpu ratio manually, the bios automaticly changes the speedboost and turbo modes to enabled.

Perhaps try leaving them enabled instead of manually disabling them and then increasing the value.

I have.

[Frostshock]

This user had exact same 35 lock problem on this thread: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718113

He said he solved it by updating his bios with the Ami-method found in this thread.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1270792/asus-p8p67-rev3-0-bios-3207-missing-turbo-ratio

[quido]

Sounds like a damaged CPU to me.

[Slave]

Actually removing the battery would just accomplish what I did in the first place, which was using the cmos reset jumpers. I might just try that again though.

From the stupidly limited amount I know, re-batterying should work... are you sure?

[Necrozero]

Saw your post on T's Hardware, I looked up another thread similar to yours. They found out that he had to have Turbo mode enabled in the actual bios. Because when you reset jumpers and set it back to default, the only way for that processor to again exceed 3.5mghz is through turbo, after you use turbo to get it back to 43/45 on a clean boot, you are supposed to then be able to manually set it back to 35-45.

Link here.
Unclewebb's response.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/281399-29-3770k-reverting-5ghz-voltage

[ymw]

Sounds like a damaged CPU to me.

Starting to sound similar. I'd double check everything at a physical level - make sure the cooling is running well, things are securely in place, reapply the thermal paste, etc. The chips and the sockets are resilient. Don't curb stomp the board or use any gentle twisting motions to get it out, but fine otherwise.

Sucks it's not working - that's some really nice equipment to not work well.

[Slynker]

Have always preferred a "boot to" flash over any "in OS" flash.. maybe I'm just old like that.. but it could be any number of little things causing it to wig a bit..

[Frostshock]

Here is another guy same issue: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=713186

here is him fixing it.

Success!!!!!!

I come home and clear BIOS with jumper again and start from scratch. Since I never even seen past 3.5ghz I am just working to see 3.9, it's normal boost. All I did was disable HT. Hyperthreading. I rebooted and bingo while windows 7 finishes loading the Intel Boost Monitor comes up and I see 3.9! Holy crap. So I go back to bios and do a simple Manual to 103 base clock, and 41 boost on all core. I boot up and I running at 4220 mhz stable to light use. Using prime95 temps get to 90c pretty quick. Will lay off til new cooler comes in! I rebooted and run iGPU to 1250 and set RAM to 1648mhz. Rebooted and ran Performance test 64. Highest score I ever had was about 5400, now its over 9500! Nice 40 percent increase in that one...... All volts left alone for now.

Thanks again, now I got to eat this sucker....

[Rogean]

This user had exact same 35 lock problem on this thread: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718113

He said he solved it by updating his bios with the Ami-method found in this thread.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1270792/asus-p8p67-rev3-0-bios-3207-missing-turbo-ratio

This man has won. Problem resolved.

Thanks all!

[ymw]

Glad you got your shit working.

Hopefully along the way you stumbled on a good BIOS in your changes - 1504 seems to be a fan favorite.

-Yankor

[Necrozero]

Grats man

[Frostshock]

This man has won. Problem resolved.

Thanks all!

good to hear.. can't wait to be a DE shaman!

[ymw]

good to hear.. can't wait to be a DE shaman!

As a gnomish wizard, I will admit I was channeling some Skee-Lo. I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was... Grats on your sweet mask! ;)

[Slynker]

Nice work Frost +1

[Xclen]

Lol well since we have you hear, can you look in petition section at my issue Rogean! Preeze

[Ephirith]

Lol well since we have you hear, can you look in petition section at my issue Rogean! Preeze

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[ymw]

Rogean is Kenny Loggins?

[Peatree]

Ran into an odd problem after I moved my PC to clean and then had to reset bios because it wouldn't boot. Since it cleared out my OC settings I went to set them back up and it's refusing to let me set the CPU Ratio above 35. It's acting as if it is a locked CPU when it isn't. I had the multiplier at 46 for 8 months (give or take) and it worked fine.

Video: http://youtu.be/QXA9lrUG5Bc

Guise of the Deceive to anyone that provides a solution.

Here's what I've posted at other forums:

Easy fix w/ 3 steps.

1. Buy a new one.
2. Sell the old one on eBay.
3. Spend time saved working on it power leveling my toon.

Glad to be of service and again , thanks for all you do! :D

[Nirgon]

I have this server that needs a patch, I'm wondering if anyone in this thread can assist

[Slave]

Rogean is Kenny Loggins?

Looks more like Kenny Rogers here.