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gildor 05-03-2016 02:25 PM
Worn haste bug
 
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=240857

Quote:
Originally Posted by KorafRN (Post 2260451)
Haste is not working correctly here. As of last patch they converted items from "Effect: haste" to "haste: +xx%", which affects backstab cool down. This means any haste item that is not sharing the same haste type < Haste: +xx% > will NOT affect backstab cool down. Auto-attack damage is unaffected by this.

I think this also effects kick/bash, but I haven't tested it much.

Up until last patch, most items were NOT <haste: +xx%>. Only a handful, not all, of Velious item had that haste type. Which means for year(s) it was broken.
Not seeing this here in the bug forum. Is this a thing? Can a dev confirm?

Erati 05-03-2016 02:36 PM
it should not list the percentage of the items but i mean we have item links too that also shouldnt be here

haste items should only say "Haste"

Cecily 05-03-2016 02:37 PM
And haste "should" also effect skill timers. When they removed % from the items, they removed it's secondary effect.

KorafRN 05-03-2016 02:52 PM
All items that previously said "effect: haste" were converted to show their %haste as of last patch. Check your plane of sky and kunark hastes... All are % now

Nilbog: Corrected an issue with some haste items sharing values.

Erati 05-03-2016 03:47 PM
so what he corrected broke how haste is interacting with skill refresh?

how did it function in classic?

KorafRN 05-03-2016 04:16 PM
they just converted all previous "Effect: Haste" Items to "Effect: +%Haste". Since Epic weapons haste are a different effect name, they still do not affect backstab cooldown.

All the digging I did just showed that haste should affect ability cooldowns, but didn't really differentiate if that was Item and/or spell.

nilbog 05-04-2016 02:02 PM
Prior to the patch, some haste items were sharing values and the system itself was broken for certain items. To change this, we checked each item to verify the haste amount, and updated the item. A side effect of this was you can 'see' the values again. That should be corrected soon.

One way to fix this is to change the str file from:
5848 Haste: %1% to 5848 Effect: Haste

If haste items should affect cooldown timers, this fix had nothing to do with it. The previous method of how haste was applied to items was wrong, and if that was affecting cooldowns, only some haste items would have 'worked'. If you guys find research about it, update this thread or make a new one with specifics.

KorafRN 05-04-2016 04:14 PM
I should have some parses saved that I did on feshchkone(RIP) with different hastes worn. I'll try to post them tonight or sometime soon.

KorafRN 05-04-2016 10:06 PM
" Before you ask, yes, backstab is affected by haste, just like normal melee."
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...6/#post-513678

I spent a few hours trying to search for anything regarding Haste and Backstab delay/timer/haste etc, and this is the only thing i found. Spell haste has effected Backstab delay for the entirety of my stay on p99. It makes more sense that Item Haste would act the same as Spell Haste would.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecily (Post 2260502)
And haste "should" also effect skill timers. When they removed % from the items, they removed it's secondary effect.
This means backstab cooldown was affected years ago when Haste% displayed on items?

Switching <5848 Haste: %1% to 5848 Effect: Haste> must have had an effect other than just visual.



Prepatch Parse logs of backstab time.

VOG + Silver Bracelet of Speed: 5848 Haste: %41%
~5.1sec per backstab round

[Mon Apr 04 22:48:06 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:11 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:11 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:16 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:16 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:21 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:27 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:27 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:32 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:32 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:37 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:37 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:55 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:48:55 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:00 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:06 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:11 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:11 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:16 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:16 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:21 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:26 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:31 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:31 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:37 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:42 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:47 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:47 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:52 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:52 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:57 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:49:57 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:03 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:03 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:08 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:08 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:13 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:18 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:18 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:23 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:23 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:28 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:28 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!




VOG + Renards Belt of Quickness + Gauntlets of Dragon Slaying + Ragebringer (offhand): 5848 Effect: Haste
~6.2sec per Backstab round

[Mon Apr 04 22:50:47 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:53 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:50:53 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:00 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:06 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:13 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:13 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:19 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:19 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:26 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:32 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:32 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:38 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:38 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:45 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:45 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:51 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:51 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:58 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:51:58 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:52:04 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:52:10 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Mon Apr 04 22:52:10 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!


No Spell Haste, No Item Haste:
~7.6sec per Backstab round

[Wed Apr 13 18:05:19 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:05:27 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:05:27 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:05:35 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:05:42 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:05:51 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:05:51 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:05:58 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:05:58 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:06:06 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:06:06 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!


[Wed Apr 13 18:06:19 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:06:19 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:06:26 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:06:34 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:06:34 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:06:42 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!


[Wed Apr 13 18:07:32 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:07:40 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:07:40 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:07:47 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:07:55 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:07:55 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:08:03 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Apr 13 18:08:03 2016] You try to backstab Feshlak ChkOne, but Feshlak ChkOne is INVULNERABLE!

nilbog 05-05-2016 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KorafRN (Post 2263378)
Switching <5848 Haste: %1% to 5848 Effect: Haste> must have had an effect other than just visual.
Let me put this another way.

If the haste from items was affecting cooldowns, it was not intended. Now that the haste on items is actually fixed, evidence should be gathered that item haste should affect cooldowns. That is how to proceed.


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