When will something be done about intentional trains?

[chtulu]

Obviously there are no harsh repercussions or people wouldn't be making low level alts to harass people in groups.

Allurah, a low level character, was training Lord's group for a few hours. While this person was training she would whisper people telling them to not "fuck with DA".

People like this have no place in any form of society. I hope actions like these are taken seriously.

[Rogean]

Even if there were, whats to prevent someone from continueing to create level 1 characters and training people?

I'm open to suggestions.

[rioisk]

People get butthurt all the time in MMORPGS. I've seen a bunch of this in my time. However, when something is systematically wrong with a game you tend to see repeat offenses over and over and over and over because people are THAT angry.

Figure it out.

[chtulu]

*shrug* i don't know.

I'm assuming it would be easy to check their IP addresses and what not. See who shares the similar ID's that are recorded when they are logged in and delete both their main account and whatever accounts they use to train.

It would at least be a deterrence for people with high level characters to make a new account for the sake for grieving.

At least, that's how it was handled in SoD and a few other private emulator games i've played.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

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[chtulu]

sure, IP's can be changed with a proxy, but their are DNS and other identifiable features with their routers or whatever else they want to be hiding behind.

I'd like to bet 10 dollars that the people with the mind set of harassing people in such a primitive manner don't have the knowledge to go to lengths securing their anonymity anyways.

[Rogean]

And that's where the vast majority of you are wrong and when you scream fix it for something you are so ignorant about and then get angry at us for something you don't understand.

First, people do change IP Addresses to train. Other than that, there is no way to link someone to their main account.

Now lets say someone did train someone else with the same IP Address. How do we actually prove it was them and not someone else living in the same house/apartment/campus? Would you like to be banned for something a roommate did?

The biggest disadvantage to this server being free is that we have no control over people simply making new accounts to grief with.

Then theres also proving that the train occured. You guys think this server is any worse than live? I still play live, and I can tell you, people get trained ALL the time. There is absolutely NO WAY for eqlive gm's to prove it other than catching someone in the act, or getting a /report of said person admitting to it, which we can't accept even on this server because /report's can be fabricated (Both on here AND on live.. why EQLive trusts them blindly is nothing short of stupidity on their part. I can incriminate someone on live just by faking a /report for something they never said.)

[chtulu]

Who cares if they are in the same house using the same router/ip address?

I'm pretty sure if a perma ban on someone's account was threatened, the other person would be more then happen to give his buddy in.

[chtulu]

Well, if absolutely nothing can be done, then I guess vigilante justice is the only other alternative!

[Rogean]

There is no threatening. There's banning or not banning. We either have the proof to ban someone or we don't. A Train on the same IP Address is currently not something we'll ban all accounts matched to that IP For.

Which also brings up something else, oh boy fun! Guilds share account information all over. How would you feel for being banned because a friend of yours had logged into your account only once before... and then trained someone with a new account they made on the same IP?

That would not fly well with the community.