With no GM authority, these raid talks are worse than useless

[HeallunRumblebelly]

First off I'd like to thank Rogean for thinking of the possibility that there may be a problem with the current raid scene on Project 1999. The raid situation for those who were not involved prior to this announcement was a situation of repeated FTEs (where the FTE shouts added to discern FTE were nearly pointless), fraps and GM arbitration on every kill where the top two guilds decided to attend. The CSR staff decided that this was too much work on an unpaid team and wanted the community to come up with something that would be amenable to all (or most) raiding parties.

And this is where we are now.

Many ideas have been proposed in the multitude of threads recently on server chat ranging from removal of variance, adding a grace window for other guilds to compete, points systems, timed repops and rotations. Some of these ideas would seem to involve even more CSR involvement than the current raid rules which is antithetical to the reasons that new raid rules are being brainstormed upon in the first place. Each person and guild has their own inputs and goals. The biggest issue we have is that server chat is not a proper framework for discussion of this type. I'm all for keeping these things transparent, but when no one has any bargaining power, or even worse, any enforcement capability, the words are meaningless.

Regardless of what is chosen for new raid rules, a proper summit needs to be held once again with people who would be interested in seeing raid rules changed. In P99's current structure this would mean guild representatives as it's the only organization structure we have to organize P99's vast playerbase. I would just like to re-iterate that if after the end of such talks if the rules are not binding with definite consequence, then the whole of the talks would be pointless and we'd rather not have a repeat of what we've had in the past. Rogean (maybe Nilbog? fuzzy on this) had said in the past that there would never be a GM enforced rotation, but here we are discussing what is essentially what type of rotation (or mercy rules) the server would like to put in place. Without these rules, we simply have what we had before, which the CSR staff has decided to be unacceptable.

I guess my question is, how long are 100 randoms going to jerk it on the forums before something actually gets done about these raid rule changes? The guild representatives aren't sitting at the table discussing right now--they're flinging feces across the room. Without structure and binding agreements, the talks mean nothing.