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10-08-2011, 08:37 AM
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All Hail Macken. Defender of the scoreboards.
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Dear Macken, You have received an infraction at Project 1999. Reason: Insults / Inappropriate Language Outside RNF ------- bigotry ------- This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire. Original Post: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?p=427750 Quote: http://http://boards.straightdope.co...d.php?t=582053 More proof that a leaderboard is needed and that homosexuals have ruined America. All the best, Project 1999 __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by nilbog Server chat is for civil conversation. Personal attacks/generally being confrontational will not be tolerated. Quote: Originally Posted by LG High Priest of Rogean Guineapig don't taze me ----------------------------------------- All the people are saying America and the world is going to hell in a hand basket. And I just point to all the good work that our friend Guineapig is doing down at P99. I mean whats better for America than the down-on-your-knees, sucking-of-the-dong work that Guineapig is doing for the Homo community? | ||
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#2
10-08-2011, 09:12 AM
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From Wikipedia:
Etymology The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie (bigotry) in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite". The exact origin of the word is unknown, but it may have come from the German bei and gott, or the English by God. William Camden wrote that the Normans were first called bigots, when their Duke Rollo, who when receiving Gisla, daughter of King Charles, in marriage, and with her the investiture of the dukedom, refused to kiss the king's foot in token of subjection - unless the king would hold it out for that specific purpose. When being urged to do it by those present, Rollo answered hastily "No, by God", whereupon the King, turning about, called him bigot, which then passed from him to his people.[1] This is quite probably fictional, as Gisla is unknown in Frankish sources. It is true, however, that the French used the term bigot to abuse the Normans.[2] Defender Guinea, It is now apparent that your staff has been using the word bigot to insult and grief those who spread the truth. Please refrain from doing so outside RNF. You intentionally broke the link in the original post outside RNF. Please allow the truth to be set free. This is RNF yes? http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=582053 We need a board. The effemination of America is making us weak. | ||
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#5
10-08-2011, 09:48 AM
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Diogenes the Cynic
BANNED Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 58,797 I think they should keep score as soon as they're old enough to understand it. That doesn't mean you have to place a lot of importance on it, and you should still stress having fun over winning and losing, but taking the score out it takes away from the fun, it doesn't enhance it. The same with the softball games where kids are allowed infinite strikes and whatnot. Sports are about competing. That's what makes them fun. Taking away the competitive aspects ruins it. Kids are not going to be devastated by losing, and they still know who's good and who isn't anyway, so it isn't like ignoring the score conceals anything, and giving them 15 strikes just emabrrasses them more, it doesn't make them feel better. When I was running a couple of sumer day camps in St. Paul, we used to organize little softball and kickball games. Most of the people who worked with me there at the rec centers were women, and they always wanted to not keep score and let the kids swing until they got hits. They even wanted foul balls to be counted as fair. It was ridiculous. I had to put my foot down about. Started running the games by normal rules, kept score and the kids had a lot more fun. When there aren't any rules at all, there isn't any point. At risk of sounding sexist, it seemed to me like there was a fundamental disconnect between the way men and women understood how boys feel about competitive activities. Not all women, obviously. Dont flame me, but a lot of them didn't seem to get that boys liked trying to beat each other. They need competition and crave it on almost a molecular level. They are also not emotionally ruined by losing a fair contest, and for the most part the kids don't take it off the field with them. There are kids who are bullies, and kids who gloat too much about winning, but the other kids know those kids are assholes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sounds like Red99. Also, poor dude obviously got banned/griefed for not sugar coating the truth. | ||
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10-08-2011, 10:35 AM
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gonzomax
Guest Join Date: May 2006 keeping score does not mean the kids will be broken hearted with a loss. If they are young they will just think ,so what. Some kids are competitive and want to win everything. Many of the other catch on later. But it does not scar them for life to lose a game they barely understand how to play. If you play, keep score. | ||
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#8
10-08-2011, 10:41 AM
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Spoons
Charter Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 7,068 Do the kids ever play an unorganized pickup game of any kind? Say, a baseball game in the schoolyard at lunch, or a weekend afternoon football game in the park? What do they do then? As I recall my own childhood, we always kept score in such games. Not that it really mattered--teams would change from day to day as the day's captains would select from the available pool of kids who showed up. But it never occurred to us not to keep score. Certainly in the organized sports I participated in during my childhood, scores were kept. Somebody won and somebody lost. We all wanted to play like the pros we watched on TV did, and that included keeping score. I think we would have refused to play if the adults told us that scores would not be kept, as to us, it would have been pointless. To more directly address the OP's question, I think scores should be kept at any age. But I don't think it should be for any reason related to "fostering the competitiveness that will be needed as an adult." Rather, I think it's because keeping score is a part of the game. If you're not keeping score, you're not playing the game. Good question: What do the organizing adults tell the kids who want to keep score? | ||
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#9
10-08-2011, 10:44 AM
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Peremensoe
Guest Join Date: Apr 2010 If you're not keeping score, you're not really playing a game, you're just having a practice or workout. Scorekeeping should begin the very first time the kids face an opposing team. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by Peremensoe; 10-16-2010 at 02:45 PM. | ||
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#10
10-08-2011, 10:54 AM
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#26 10-16-2010, 07:51 PM
Diogenes the Cynic BANNED Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 58,797 We can already see it. It's part of a coddling culture that's resulting in kids still living in their parents' houses at 30, having a ridiculous sense of entitlement from being rewarded for nothing all their lives and having no preparation for life away from mommy. Not keeping score is how you create misfit, maladapted nerds who dress up like pandas and have "girlfriends" they only ever talk to on the internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by Diogenes the Cynic; 10-16-2010 at 07:51 PM. ---------------------------------- This guy knows some of you personally that are against a leaderboard. | ||
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