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Old 12-14-2012, 12:53 PM
Safon Safon is offline
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Default Enchanter animations, when are they preferred over charmed mobs?

Enchanters have always impressed me with the havoc they can cause with charmed mobs, and it occurs to me I haven't even seen an animation in ages.

What are they for? They can be called off like charmed mobs can nor do they have the hp/dps
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:11 PM
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Can be used in some fights where charming isnt possible but an AoE will gain agro (certain fights in sky, etc).

Might have some other pro uses, but they are fairly useless
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:15 PM
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They can also provide a touch of dps on dragon encounters where aoe is present.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:09 AM
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You can use the animation in exp groups when you don't feel like maintaining a charm pet, or when your healer is derpy. The invis ring from loio is handy if your pet ever gets feared for the insta pet dismiss.

You can also plevel on lower level content with animations, dismissing pets before the intended xp recipient slays the mob. This works best in areas with casters so you can maintain mana with theft of thought.

When camping the crypt caretaker at Kunark launch I found using the 55 pet spell the safest way to farm for the rod of annihilation. Camping the staircase in the crypt you would only ever have to fight the one mob, and although the blob could summon, it was mezable and slowable. Use memory blur after each pet reagros, and with decent enough mana you will outlast the 12k hp mob. Using a charm pet was too risky in this area, with a locked door and plenty of adds between you and the zone out.

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They can also provide a touch of dps on dragon encounters where aoe is present.
You would probably be best served not using an animation in Skyfire or EJ, as your pet will bring back plenty of friends when that max duration fear wears off, if you do want those few seconds of dps, you could dismiss the pet when the first fear hits.

Any time there is no fear though, animations would often rank on the parsed fights throughout early Kunark.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:26 PM
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They're mostly useless, given how strong charms are. I only use mine when farming targets that are so low that the pet hits harder than a charmed mob would. They are safer too, obviously, so if you're solo they can reduce your chance of death. Otherwise for minor dps in an aoe fight like others said.

This is why I scoff at paying 5k+ for the 55 animation. Maybe someday when I am too rich to care...

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Old 12-14-2012, 02:22 PM
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levels 1-11 (you get charm at 12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

The last time I bought a stack of tiny daggers it was sometime around level 18-20, and now at level 59 I still have something like 6 left from the same stack. However the very few times I've used the pet I was happy to have it. I think the majority got used farming shadowed men for essences. One time I used it to kill a named I was farming because it was more powerful than the surrounding charmable targets.

Not me personally, but back when I played a paladin in the mid 30's I duoed with a chanter who used it on the yetis in dreadlands because he was too low to reliably charm anything in zone. Of course if it were me now I'd just level somewhere else until I could!

Finally, I have summoned it once or twice on raid targets where there was nothing to charm because why not.

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Old 12-14-2012, 02:37 PM
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You get the most bang for your buck with them farming high profit items with mid/low level mobs. The price on the 55 one is high, definitely, but if you use it to easily farm something worth 6-9k then there's value to be had.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:43 PM
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The animation isn't totally worthless. When I farm the king I usually use an animation on the reavers because I'm too lazy to pull a charmed pet out of the nearby room. Alternatively, I have killed mobs up to L54 just by slowing and bedlam tanking with the RoA. I also did this for the last 10% of the cliff golem after I foolishly let the foreman die.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:32 PM
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Honestly, the midlevel pets are tough to solo with (too much mana expenditure attempting to keep them at a respectable hp level) but 39 was amazing. The 39+ pets got npc regen tables.... They could outregen slowed dark blue mobs in combat. Think I was soloing the front of CoM at that point.

You eat 50% of the exp loss... But it was mindless, safe, risk free exp.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:07 AM
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You don't want a charmed pet in situations where you are going to be very busy mezzing and your enchanter isn't "strong" enough to deal with it. When I was playing live I used to charm a pet in many situations, but then I was well geared enough and had the runes etc to deal with it.

If I were a level 50 enchanter doing karnors castle with the level of gear and spells we have on this server I would avoid charming a pet because it's just pushing my luck a bit much. Things can get hairy enough in there with just the group.

On this server you also have to consider the possibility of the pet outdamaging the group and eating xp.

Also you can't command your animation to attack. That is an aa we will never get. So they are really not any use in groups. (My enchanter on live used to use the animation a lot since I could command it. A high level animation fully buffed can really dish out the damage)
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