Raid Changes

[El B]

Once this is all figured out and put in place ill be donating $19.99

[Tarathiel]

sooo what we are left with after sorting through all the bs is.. do we want full repops or just raid mobs? should they be at random times or during primetime?? stay on topic nugga's

[Versus]

That whole tier thing that Stealin is suggesting....I'll quit.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That whole tier thing that Stealin is suggesting....I'll quit.

why? it would only affect mobs on the respawn, you would still be free to lock down all normally spawning raid mobs

[heartbrand]

Do this for red also thanks!

[nilbog]

I am glad to see this is well-received. I've wanted changes for months, and this seems to be a direction with which most players are happy.

Nothing is set in stone; if there are obvious problems, we will work with the community to rectify them.

[nilbog]

Try and keep guild vs. guild discussions out of this thread.

Thanks.

[Bubbles]

As one of the few dinosaurs still around who's been with the server since beta.. I've been in the middle of IB/Trans... Fishbait vs. the world.. DA/IB.. Fusion/IB, Ascension/IB DAVD/IB, DAVD/TransatDarktheon, TRVD/The.Masses.Organized, and every flippin' butting-heads raiding situation since the dawn of p99. I've pretty much seen all the ebbs and flows.

I really applaud the fact that nilbog and rogean are not only still voluntarily running the server, but caring enough to tweak and revisit the end game raiding climate on this server. Seriously, kudos. It's a thankless task.

Only have a couple real thoughts here.

1. ) for the first time ever i randomly muttered 'Loly Taa' out loud, said 'oh!', and laughed. Jesus i'm two years behind on that joke.

2. ) I'm not surprised at all i agree with most anything Stealin says.. I am surprised that in the last week i'm starting to agree with most of what Orruar says. Consider me knocked over with a feather.

3. ) Alarti would come off as 80% less pompus and smug if he just changed his avatar.

4. ) If people employed the same skills that got them thru pre-school recess at the sand box, they could totally make VP a civil place. Seriously, the GMs have literally said 'its all up to you guys, go nuts'.. take it as an invitation to follow the golden rule and SHARE one of the coolest zones in classic EQ.. you know.. SHARE it on a server that someone was kind enough to SHARE with you.. for free. /shrug. Up to ya'll..

And don't give me that 'well we'd be willing but THEY..." bs.. No one ever reaches the cookie jar without being the bigger man and taking that step to trust in someone else and have faith there's a human being who has the same love of EQ as you do.. Hell to digress even further, whats the real point of guild tags in the first place? We may be the last 500ish people left standing that love this niche game that died out years ago. Whats the real point in dividing into warring factions and turning paradise hotel into lord of the flies? We can't all be that anti-social, can we? I wish a lot of you were here from the start, when everyone was racing for cracked staffs and backpacks and teaming up to make jewelry and smithed armor and crack into najena and cazic thule and guk and the like. Guilds kinda sprung up along the way, but most of the friendships crossed rival colors anyways. Hell so much or IB1.0 was old Transcendence I never understood how they never fully merged and ended up deciding to hate each other, like adam and eve in the garden, dooming us to the hell we are currently in as a server.

5. ) Finally... something i've never been good at doing on these boards (to my own chagrin) : Thank you Nilbog and Rogean for devoting extraordinary time and resources to a niche crowd in an ancient game and being the first in emu to really break through and bring us back in a time capsule to where we were a dozen years ago. We'll never be as naive and perky and overwhelmed at awed by Classic-Era EQ, but you managed to immerse us into an amazingly realistic emulated copy of at least the background setting of our youth. The biggest problem, of course, is we've changed as people and squander much of this gift bestowed on us with petty grievances and obssessions that will forever taint any chance we have of exploring norrath anew. You've taken a shot-in-the dark project and improved it into an amazing experience to be treasured. Sadly, no amount of coding on your end will ever improve your playerbase and make us tolerable in even the smallest doses. For that i apologize. You are saints for putting up with us.

-Bubs.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well Loly, Zeelot may be the official voice of TMO but Eccezan, Alarti, and Fountree are making you guys look really bad. Pretty much everything they have said in this thread boils down to "We had to track/batphone for our pixels, and we don't want you to get any unless you do too". As Stealin said, the new system is fucking great for TMO. You guys are going to get 50% or more loot than you do now. If your goal is more pixels and more raiding and less tracking, you should be overjoyed. If your goal is to deny the rest of the server anything, you should be unhappy. The most vocal TMO posters in this thread and the last one have been distinctly unhappy. Draw your own conclusions.

Missed this while i was typing out the great american novel. I think splorf just hit the nail on the head. If there is one life lesson learned from EQ, it's reverse-coveting... : Hey dere.. mah shiny tings not as fun iff udders also git dere shiny tings dat look like mah shiny tings... (insert troll bottom-scratch for effect).

[Writ3r]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am glad to see this is well-received. I've wanted changes for months, and this seems to be a direction with which most players are happy.

Nothing is set in stone; if there are obvious problems, we will work with the community to rectify them.

Love to see this, just wish these changes that have been lingering for months were a tad sooner however you can never rush a good thing. This should also go to all those people complaining about this initial tweak. Rogean himself said this is like a trial run and again Nilbog mentions if it seems illegitimate then it will get tweaked again. Right now this model seems to serve best in my opinion to help make up for the lack of spawns that we realistically should've been getting within a classic context. If it is then changed to a more classic model a month or few down the road after this gets put in, that works as well. Just need to remember things can change, i just hope they continue to change for the better and remain in the direction of the masses for a long period of time rather than the extended monopoly like structure we have had.

Also, splorf's point makes perfect sense. As i stated in previous posts as well, with such horrific complaints from a select few it just sounds like whining towards supporting their greed rather than joy for the potential to improve the server as a whole. (which they are seeming to forget includes them still)