Raid Changes

[Supreme]

I would also like to add that camping zone/dragon etc can only happen ONE at a time.

No camping Vox/Naggy/Pofear/Pohate/PoSky all at the same time.

[Wonton]

I think supreme is angry cuz he'll never obtain a title as long as he's in Transcendence. oh god, here he goes again

[Nizzarr]

I dont think plane rotation is needed here. I think guild can have enough courtesy to not stay in a plane for 10 days straight. I dont think my guild would stay more than a break-in and a respawn.

7 days plane rotation wont work here once a third guild shows up. We can talk about trash rotations but even that sounds very retarded.

If no one is in a plane, then anyone can go for it.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB is against sharing because they spent the most time leveling to 50 and think that somehow they are entitled to having their pick of kills and whatever they dont want they leave to the rest of the server.

Failtrain?
We never said anything like that.
Nobody thinks you speak for IB, and your faulty paraphrasing is just seen as immature ranting. We never said anything remotely like this. We do not feel entitled to own the content, but we're not going to sit by idly while the Tranny Horde tries to claim content with zerg tactics. Just like we rolled over you at Nagafen, we would much rather fight you for the content than have it given to us. If you think you're our equals, then let's FFA, otherwise shut your filthy sperm receptacle (mouth).

[Deanob]

LOL @ raiding planes for 7 days in a row.

[guineapig]

It's not that difficult to "camp" a mob all day long.
Especially those who have "wives" or "brothers" with accounts. Log in on the second account. Leave the character there all day and just glance at the screen every once in a while playing on the other account.

I hope you guys don't honestly think there is somebody logged in doing absolutely nothing all night long.

[Nizzarr]

Look we can make more rules about it if you want supreme, nothing is set in stones.

if you're camping(being retarded) a raid mob, and the other guild shows up with 15+ players. They'll need a proof that your guild isnt all afk -- lets say give them 5-10 minute to move those 15 players that were ALREADY in the zone. hows that sound? 10 minute to show 15 moving players is plenty and shows whos afk and whos not.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think you know what rhetoric means, because if you did, you would understand that we don't compete because I am in a totally different and superior class than you in using words artfully.


Yes, but the content of your response was directly correlated with bullshit.


Yep. You are. No self-respecting man of action would spout the drivel with which you vandalize these boards daily. You're a forum troll. All forum trolls are, by definition, scrubs.


While I am ignorant of who you are and where you come from, I am generally not an ignorant person. Well, I am, because everyone is really an ignorant person by the definition of ignorance if you really want to get down to arguing philosophy, etymology, and semantics. This however does not stop me from being able to gather information based on what I see and form an opinion based on these data. Some of the data which I am using to form my current opinion is that you troll the forums daily without any constructive goal, and that you try and make fun of people to get a rise out of them. Like I said, you're nothing more than a scrub. Get a life, fucktard.


The rectum in my skull is inflamed? You're real bright.


I never said anything like this. I stated simply that we are not going to let ANYONE ELSE own the server. We are going to FIGHT LIKE DEMONS for the lion's share, because we are the lion, but we don't feel entitled. Honestly, what we REALLY want is FFA so we can own your faces in honest competition, but you guys are such scrubs you won't agree to it.


Does writing stuff like this make you feel better about yourself? Whatever works I guess.

You take the time to write a wall of text in my honor.

Your superior class is just too much for me! Thanks for making me feel special.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

camping a mob isnt effort its retarded.

anyway if they want to claim a spawn they'll need a force able to take it -- 15 able players(46+) is what it takes to start the engage timer( 2 hours). Thats non-afk moving players btw. If two or more guilds are present for the spawn, which is very unlikely given the spawn time variance, then they should /random 1000 for the spawn.

Engage timer is only started when theres competition for a spawn, it is ONLY to decide who gets first shot at a mob. You need 15 players to start the 2 hour engage period on the other guild. The first guild present needs to be able to prove that they got 15 moving players.

Spawn time, even if random, can be seen by GMs. This rule is impervious only if GMs shut their mouth about spawn time. I'll be very suspicious if a guild is waiting on a spawn then it happens very shortly after they assemble a force.

These rules are only for dragons.

Planar rules should be whoever break the plane gets the first shot at the easy boss/god.
Planar leapfrogging in my mind is very cheap. Although you can have a force ready for a easy boss/god if the first guild fails their first attempt.

Plane trash should work like this: if you broke the plane, you own all the trash inside until you leave. If you stay for respawns, then the respawns are yours until you decide to leave.


so if something in there sounds unfair to you guys, please make tweaks and suggestions.

There are way too many complicated rules in this system. Way too much room to abuse it. Way too easy for trans to park 15 people in a zone. Way too hard to police who is non afk. you're asking for GM's to get involved. They have stated they don't want to get involved. I cannot believe you're actually asking trans to play fair when it comes to planar leapfrogging. They have shown over and over again that with or without some formal set of rules they will not be honorable. Please stop equating our ability to follow rules with theirs, because although we might stick to something like this, they never will.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if your guild is retarded enough to camp dragons for 72 hours straight -- go for it.

Remember that if a guild shows up and you have 17 players but 4 arent moving/obviously afk when the other guild has 15 players moving, you're losing your shot.


These rules are easily player enforceable, which is the MAIN thing about this shitstorm right now. I want the GMs to stay out of this. The GMs want to stay out of this. They want us to police ourselves.

When you make suggestions, KEEP THAT IN MIND!

This is stupid. I'm not willing to never get a shot at content because trans is willing to camp something for 72 hours. Way too hard to police who is afk. they will never admit to afk even if they are. This idea has no shot in hell of working.