Game Mechanics: Melee Dmg

[Syft-X]

Melee dmg is totally batshit insane on this server, it's been this way for years. We keep dropping resist thresh hold lower and lower but never address melee dmg.

This problem is gonna get 4x worse in velious than it is in Kunark and we have Kunark set to insane already.

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Rabid Empire Bats Good Guys North Freeport 1.99 June 03 2015 7:01:06 PM

That was today a 1686 duelist backstab from an unbuffed Rogue who isn't even the best geared Rogue on the server, that's fucking ridiculous. I've seen 2k duelist backstabs, sure the rogues and monks are gonna say that shit doesn't happen everyday, but i assure you it happens everyday.

If this isn't addressed there will be no casters left after a few months of velious. So maybe we shouldn't be so worried about making sure no spells land on anyone when casters are getting one shotted here.

[Colgate]

target was sitting

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[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

target was sitting

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do you have any proof or are you just spewing shit out of your chapped pastey lips?

[Technique]

Originally Posted by Calabee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

88 backstab min at 59, 120 at 60, 388 is backstab min with duelist up 59 or 60

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's super incorrect. I played a rogue for years on live. Backstab min under duelist was 2x normal min. Regular melee hits were 4x min hit, and all hits were doubled from what they would have been (or following min rules if a normal melee hit that would have been less than 4x base)

http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/s...ead.php?t=2870

59 - DuelistDuration: 12 seconds
Reuse time from 30 (L59) to 29 (L60) minutes
Multiplies all base damage attacks by 4When using this discipline, all hits landed by the rogue will be for at least four times the base weapons damage. Backstab damage is doubled. This discipline lasts for 12 seconds, and has a base reuse time of 30 minutes. The reuse time for this discipline will decrease as the rogue gains additional levels.
Edited by: Zato at: 8/24/01 12:19:04 pm

I think Vaslin can be trusted on this.

[Raev]

Do we have any classic logs of melee in PVP?

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

target was sitting

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Sitting DMG not longer increases DMG beyond max hit value. Point is invalid as is anything someone says here that didn't play classic era eq

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sitting DMG not longer increases DMG beyond max hit value. Point is invalid as is anything someone says here that didn't play classic era eq

you're right, it doesn't do a theoretical max hit on sitting targets anymore

how that's relevant to this thread, i'm not sure

sitting targets almost always take max hit or close to max hit, which is what we're seeing here

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[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're right, it doesn't do a theoretical max hit on sitting targets anymore

how that's relevant to this thread, i'm not sure

sitting targets almost always take max hit or close to max hit, which is what we're seeing here

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I was hit by chucks law standing for 1800 last week with 850 ac, its not theoretical if it happens everyday.

Now I understand why a child would lie on bug reports when they have mained a monk for four years, one of the most grossly op classes on this server.

What I can't fathom is why any dev would listen to a word you say. The goal here is to balance this server to classic. You never played classic so you cannot provide a comparative contrast. Only an idiot what consider the opinion of someone who was seven years old when classic was out.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was hit by chucks law standing for 1800 last week with 850 ac, its not theoretical if it happens everyday.

I've seen 1700 standing as well, on cloth.

I feel like AC isn't doing as much as it should be. Rogues definitely shredded casters on live (although they didn't one shot buffed geared casters) but I remember the damage on leather targets being noticeably lower, and then even lower for mail and plate.

Melee are so over-tuned on this server its nuts. Velious resist and HP gear will make them even more into unstoppable gods.

[Madbad]

I was shocked the first time I was hit by a melee on this server.