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Old 07-13-2013, 04:32 PM
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Well if I have already gone/will go to Sony I certainly wouldn't tell anyone about it publicly, that's for sure.

You can certainly have your opinions abut me, but think about it like this: How different would it have been if I had openly admitted to MQ2 in the first place? We all gained a lot information through seeing Roegan determine that I was using MQ2. They have direct access to the folders on your PC that are running the game. Given that there is no EULA for this emulated server, is that legal? Is that ethical?

Also Roegan told me yesterday that if he wanted to inject detection code into the game he could "fake a server crash" in order to do so.

There's writing on the wall here, but I'm not going to spell it out for everyone, and I'm also not done here. Yesterday was just the beginning.
You're a real fucking cunt.

Give it up and leave already.

He could not access your folders, just where the .dlls were running from.

You are nothing but a scumbag, whiny, piece of shit.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:36 PM
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If I could, I would. If you guys want things to change then the information has to be disseminated methodically and slowly. You will understand once it's all over.
That seems stupid. If you have information about corrupt GM's you give it to management (Nilbog). All of it. Right now. Giving us only a piece of the information to work on is pointless if we need enough information to prove irrefutably that they are guilty.

If you aren't willing to do that, then we can't do anything about it.

I've seen people make claims to me "Soandso is hacking.. do something" and I'm like "Hey dumbass, I can't without proof. Got any?" They ignore me, then several days later, post their proof in the RnF Forum. If you had give me the fucking proof to begin with I could have done something about it, now your just pissing me off by playing the publicity game.

That's all this is turning into is some wild goose chase. Either give us the god damn proof or shut up, it really is that simple and you are WAY over complicating it.

And as far as the hacks go, and I've received a few PM's from people concerned about it.. hacks show up all the time.. it's the nature of the game. Macroquest2 is still very widely used on EQLive for warping and all sorts of other injections. Things like no delay throwing will be fixed, as I'm sure that is a bug in the code that he is currently taking advantage of. As far as the detection of the rest of it, we do a far better job combating it than eqlive does. I put our detection methods in over a year and a half ago and since then I've done very little to bring it up to date. Catching cheaters is a very cat and mouse game.. I will at some point spend some time to alter our detection to pick up new threats, just like an anti-virus would, and then a lot of people will get banned again.

This is why it's just not worth it to try and circumvent the detections.. you spend a lot of time not only invested in your characters but in trying to get around the system, for what? You risk losing EVERYTHING. That's the message we send.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:43 PM
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This all has been pretty intriguing. Good game Systolic I think you accomplished what you wanted to do. I don't know if its just me or if anyone else feels the same but:
-RMT - don't care; doesn't effect me.
-Hacks - don't care; doesn't effect me.
-GM RMT - don't care; doesn't effect me.
Maybe its just cause i casually play and don't raid or anything. All that aside it is been funny to watch/read the drama as it unfolds. I think that's why this is getting so much attention. Drama whores all of us.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:18 PM
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This is why it's just not worth it to try and circumvent the detections.. you spend a lot of time not only invested in your characters but in trying to get around the system, for what? You risk losing EVERYTHING. That's the message we send.

In all fairness that is NOT the message you send, and never has been. The message you send is: hack and get banned then petition 6 months later and you may be forgiven.

Catching 300 people using mq2/seq? lose 6 levels, take a 2 week break and move on.

Get banned for RMT/exploiting? Wait 6 months, put in a well timed petition and come back.

You need to work on the message you send, because what you think you're doing and what the players see happening are two COMPLETELY separate things.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:22 PM
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This is the most nerdy and immersed stuff I have ever seen on the internet.

You all deserve awards for your serious dedication to keeping the server legit despite the fact that you guys are raging nerds with a hardon for pixels. This is a compliment. I am proud of you guys. Especially Tiggles.

But I could only watch about 5 minutes before loosing interest myself. Server politics lol... just as bad as IRL politics.

P.S. Rogean in all regards you are pretty good when it comes to hunting down cheaters and hax00rz IMO, this is the same problem FPS games use to face back in the day. and those servers only had 14 slots tops. Though a regular user base of 100 sometimes. So if you see me raging about stupid vlassic classic in /logs =) its all good, I much prefer your servers to anything else )
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:23 PM
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Catching 300 people using mq2/seq? lose 6 levels, take a 2 week break and move on.
One time situation that everyone knows is irrelevant.


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Get banned for RMT/exploiting? Wait 6 months, put in a well timed petition and come back.
Minor level MQ2 OR perhaps one RMT instance will still get you a permaban but after 6 months we may grant you the second chance. It's a long time to wait, and you only get it once. It's not even garaunteed.. Its based on severity and how you behaved when we banned you. Insult the staff and say you weren't hacking? We won't help you.

Yea I'm comfortable with that message.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:28 PM
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One time situation that everyone knows is irrelevant.




Minor level MQ2 OR perhaps one RMT instance will still get you a permaban but after 6 months we may grant you the second chance. It's a long time to wait, and you only get it once. It's not even garaunteed.. Its based on severity and how you behaved when we banned you. Insult the staff and say you weren't hacking? We won't help you.

Yea I'm comfortable with that message.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:33 PM
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You put on a good show, Systolic. If you have evidence, give it, but it will of course receive due scrutinization especially since you've demonstrated the value of your word, or lack there of. If this evidence is substantial it will be acted on accordingly. This side show you're putting on is nothing more than that without any evidence.

BTW I find it funny that right as this drama comes about the server also starts getting DDOS'd. You say it isn't you, you also said you didn't use MQ. I have no doubt that if you're the one packeting the server you wouldn't admit it, we're reaching into criminality at that point. I'm just going to say stop, now.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:44 PM
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Anyway, my fiancee and I have a reception to go to. I will be back later this evening.
does your fiancee know that you're a crazy e-terrorist who just wants his emulator account back and will stop at nothing to get it, only to be banned again the next day anyway?
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:48 PM
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You put on a good show, Systolic.
I don't even think he put on a very good show! He swoops in all dramatically with allegations of crazy cheating and whispers of RMT corruption at the very highest levels, and when he has his big reveal it turns out to be something you can do with a well known program that people have been using for years that he lied about using?

The real mystery to me is how almost half the people reading this thread actually believe him. C'mon... "I will be back, leaving with my fiancée to go to such and such wherever"? All this content free innuendo? It is great drama for sure, and the OP is sure enjoying himself, but it's like 10% truth with 90% froth.
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