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Old 10-30-2017, 10:44 PM
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Doing things like super market funerals make the group look like extremists and radicals (which most people shy away from). The truth of the matter is less than 1% of the population thinks the way you do. As a meat eater the most effective thing I have seen is showing the cruelty and brutality that happens in slaughter houses.

I personally do not feel animals have any rights. Animals are here to serve humans and that may sound harsh but I am entitled to my beliefs just as you are entitled to yours. Do I kill or hurt animals for no reason? No. Do I beat or fight my dogs? No, because I am not a psychopath who likes to see things get hurt, but I also find it crazy that someone can go to jail for abusing a dog or chicken. They are not the same as us and I don't think that is even debatable.

Most vegans/veggies that have given me their spiel on why eating meat is wrong just come off as sounding pretentious and spoiled to me. Hunting has been the most viable way for humans to survive for thousands of years. Although we are approaching a time and place where 100% of people not eating meat might theoretically be possible, it is very short sighted of you to say its wrong when the human species literally would not be here if our ancestors were not hunters. Higher cognitive development isn't even possible from an evolutionary stand point without all the protein meat contains. Only reason you are able to think for yourself is likely because your great great great great great grand paw killed Babmi to feed his family.

If you find it necessary to mettle in other peoples lives and press your agenda onto others I would recommend showing footage of slaughter houses... it's a pretty good way to make people think twice about what they are eating.

I am just not convinced removing meat from the menu solves anymore problems than it would create.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:57 PM
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How do you feel about animals eating animals? Serious Q
I lol'ed

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Old 10-30-2017, 11:19 PM
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I killed a deer at 40 yards last weekend with a compound bow

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I think OP thought Rants and Flames meant "O gosh darn I'm so angry about this thing! O look, here's a place where I can vent about that!"

But didn't realize that this is more like... P99's 4chan or something.

except instead of random anons its a shark attack of a small clique that posts here all the time. so he's doubly fucked.
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Old 10-31-2017, 09:22 AM
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Anyone who hurts a dog, woman, or child shouldn't go to jail, they should be executed

Yet you recently killed a deer? Genuinely curious why killing a deer and eating it's corpse is Cool and normal, but even hitting a dog should demand the death penalty? Having a hard time finding your logic.
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I killed a deer at 40 yards last weekend with a compound bow

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Old 10-31-2017, 09:40 AM
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Yet you recently killed a deer? Genuinely curious why killing a deer and eating it's corpse is Cool and normal, but even hitting a dog should demand the death penalty? Having a hard time finding your logic.
Dogs should really be in their own category because they are mans best friend, and your best friend deserves special treatment. I fully support laws that protect dogs and cats from neglect, I tear up every time that Sarah McLachlan commercial comes on.

Also just because I think animals have no rights doesn't mean I think humans have inalienable rights to treat the environment and nature however they see fit. There is a line of acceptable behavior and that's the whole reason we have laws and there isn't revolution every couple of years (because I think most people see the sense in the laws)

If you have trouble distinguishing why hunting a game animal in the wild is different from beating a dog who sleeps in your bed then I don't think we will have much we can agree upon. One is for food and one is sadistic pleasure (or anger? not sure why people beat dogs).

And no, eating dogs is not normal anywhere but sh!t hole 3rd world countries like Vietnam.
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:06 AM
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Interestingly, you see people in this thread making arguments against carnism and in favor of veganism, but you do not see the reverse. You see not one meaningful defense of eating meat, and you see not a single effective criticism of veganism. Meat eaters cannot defend their own beliefs because they are indefensible. Deep down the meat eaters know this but it is still too painful for them to admit entirely. They will do anything to avoid confronting their own paradox. Friends, this is the very definition of cognitive dissonance. Rather than reject their cruel complicity in an illogical, destructive system, they opt instead to attack activists and their tactics. They make inane jokes about what they had for lunch. They will tell you that they're going to kill something to spite you. They'll try to turn the conversation away from themselves and toward ANYTHING else. This is a cop-out. It exposes your intellectual atrophy, your moral apathy, your fragile sense of identity, your outright ignorance of even your own motivations and your white-knuckled attachment to your social indoctrination.

Now I'm not sure if there have been any ladies in this thread but right now I'm going to address only the men, because it seems you gents are profusely unaware that the above is not a good look. A man is a man because he is capable of exerting control over his surroundings and circumstances. A meat eater caught in the trap of dissonance is unable to exert control over even himself. Please, friends, have some respect for yourselves. Trust that you are strong enough to practice a modicum of self-discipline. I believe in you. You will feel empowered. Perhaps you will even find the strength to reign in your other addictions, too, wrestling back control of your life from cuck porn and elf pixels. Godspeed.
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:08 AM
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I am a hunter, meat eater, and animal lover. I don't abuse animals, i go out of my way to cleanly kill any animal I am harvesting, and I make a point of not wasting any edible part of animals that i shoot. Do i think that the meat industry should be more regulated to lessen the suffering of animal? Yes. Do I enjoy a nice steak, fried chicken, grilled fish, or sweet delicious bacon? Yes. Are "meat substitutes" gross and am i unwilling to eat gross things instead of delicious things? Yes. Oh well
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:21 AM
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I am a hunter, meat eater, and animal lover. I don't abuse animals, i go out of my way to cleanly kill any animal I am harvesting, and I make a point of not wasting any edible part of animals that i shoot. Do i think that the meat industry should be more regulated to lessen the suffering of animal? Yes. Do I enjoy a nice steak, fried chicken, grilled fish, or sweet delicious bacon? Yes. Are "meat substitutes" gross and am i unwilling to eat gross things instead of delicious things? Yes. Oh well
Is there a greater example of self-delusion than telling yourself you're an animal lover while killing animals?

Can you name another object of love which it is okay to destroy?

Like, "I love baseball, so every now and then I burn down a ballpark."

"I love kids, so I make sure I kill them humanely."

"I love this country, so let's have a civil war."

Also, meat substitutes are gross but you buy some burger from the store and you literally got to cook the bacteria out of it because it's so full of puss and shit and piss and blood. Makes sense!
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:36 AM
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Deer are pests. They are killed in numbers so as to be sustainable. I eat the meat and thank Ahura Mazda, the god of Persians, for his bounty

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