SoE is missing money - Page 5

Excision Rottun · #41 03-15-2010, 05:04 PM

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Project 1999 Stuff

I just went from six to midnight!

MATPHAT · #42 03-15-2010, 05:13 PM

Christ, when do you guys find time to have jobs, partners, or eat?
That sounds like a lifestyle, not a hobby.
Props to you for pulling it together.

**Aeolwind** · #43 03-15-2010, 05:32 PM

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Christ, when do you guys find time to have jobs, partners, or eat?
That sounds like a lifestyle, not a hobby.
Props to you for pulling it together.

It ain't easy.
It is.
Thanks.

Crone · #44 03-15-2010, 05:44 PM

So could someone take all of the work you've done, and start their own server? Or do you guys keep that code to yourselves?

**nilbog** · #45 03-15-2010, 05:48 PM

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So could someone take all of the work you've done, and start their own server? Or do you guys keep that code to yourselves?

Closed source. We won't be releasing it.

You can take the open source eqemu and public peq/axdb databases, and do whatever you want with them.

Crone · #46 03-15-2010, 06:19 PM

Gotcha. I didn't think that it all had to be open source.

From the amount of fixes that have been done, it sounds like the open source DBs are not that great? or was it simply the amount of work that had to be done to get it to "classic" that was really the work, not necessarily bug fixing.

MATPHAT · #47 03-15-2010, 06:24 PM

Man, considering the load these guys have taken on, I'm keep that source tight to my chest.

**Aeolwind** · #48 03-15-2010, 06:35 PM

Well, there were 70,000 invalid entries of a rusty dagger. 70,000. We made at least 700,000 changes to the DB. It was a combination of incorrect/not classic & correct/Classic. We also have a slightly larger dev team than most.

The DB's are fine as a base. You just have to realize a lot of things need changed. Some are older rev's, etc.

mokfarg · #49 03-15-2010, 06:49 PM

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These are the same decisions we make for free. No matter what the choice, people get upset.

They own the property/intellectual property rights to say.. the Trilogy client. I think they could offer a digital download of it, and a lot of people would buy it. They wouldn't even need to ship boxes to stores and they could make burst profit from a client that would otherwise not produce income.

There is no way they are going to buy their own source code. They have real code, and can fill in the 'unknowns' a lot better than the open source community. Rogean and Haynar are doing a great job at tuning Titanium to run classically, but the work done is for the Titanium client. It would be quite an undertaking to ,as Excision put it, 'jive' together. I'm surprised no one mentioned the database or quests. That's what provides the content you are playing. I spent the last year researching and implementing/fabricating hacks of little insignificant situations. If they do not have a stored database and original quest system, they would be paying someone to do this yet again.. and it would take A LOT of time and effort. If they are reading, I'm LFJ, btw :P

One thing I would add is, SOE would find a way to ruin it once again. I don't trust them, they would have manastones for sell in a item shop. Thank you guys for all the hardwork you do to make this possible. The most fun MMO on the market.

Necran · #50 03-16-2010, 11:03 AM

Good grief, just reading about all these changes that needed to be made is making my head spin. Developers, you guys are incredible.