No, we shouldn't have Lucin. But maybe its Velious tweaks would be fine

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Ghostly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

100% this... People saying they don't want Dragons rooted because killing trash is a pain, are just looking for easy loot they don't actually have to earn.

Logging in to kill just a named mob is not raiding, its farming. There IS a difference.

Ugh I wrote a long response to this then deleted it now I fell I have to respond again.

If it's so easy to kill dragons the way they currently are killed, why are there only two guilds that consistently contest Raid Targets in ToV? (Outside of trips).

MOST of the best playmakers/pullers/leaders/coth racers are in one of two guilds. Any second tier guild (i'm not shitting on anyone here btw, I love lots of people in Paradigm Shift ETC) can produce a force to kill the dragons. You need clerics, 2-3 Raid geared tanks, DPS. Slowers. That's the easy part. The hard part is getting the dragon to entrance.

And you're very wrong about the loot. A LOT of people, especially the playmakers, don't raid on p99 for the loot. I joined Aftermath because I wanted raid loot, that's the truth. I didn't expect to like raiding as much as I did. I figured that I would get some shit, and take off. But it's a lot of fun! I don't even give a shit about loot anymore. I raid because it's fun, and I love my guild members.