Velious strategy

[Steel Warrior]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno, most of the epics still hold value. SK one allows 2h bash for races w/o slam. Ranger proc still useful situationally, and the one with worn haste is 13/21 vs 13/20 for a primal 1h. Warrior epic will continue to be used for agro proc until someone is using a SoD/BoC combo. Rogue epic is only replaced by drops off Vulak and Tunare (it'll be awhile). Monk epic never gets replaced and can be used w/ primal.

So really for melees the paladin epic is the only one that will be replaced fairly quickly into the xpac.

Why would a warrior use this weapon for aggro? http://wiki.project1999.com/Blade_of_Carnage

You don't know as much about Velious as you think you do.

Epic is already not the best warrior aggro combination, which means you don't know all that much about Kunark, either.

[Lasher]

best aggro weapon comes from Innothule swamp

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

best aggro weapon comes from Innothule swamp

I thought everyone knew this?

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So really for melees the paladin epic is the only one that will be replaced fairly quickly into the xpac.

Paladin epic held up surprisingly well until the 2h revamp if memory serves.

Presumably there was a pretty big 1h vs. 2h gap to warrant the revamp though? I'm not sure how shield AC worked during Velious.

[Kringe]

When we originally said "when velious is released" small groups can fuck over big groups that still holds true for quite a bit of content... I wont get into all the logistics and secrets of really boning over the top guilds as my buddies (even though I don't play here are the top end), so explaining those strats to everyone isn't exactly what I would do...
Let's just say a competent group of the "right classes" per se, can screw over any guild attempting to farm Ntov /DN/Kael... Dain is easily bottlenecked and protected like stated before (I doubt dain will be done within the first few months anyways) the rest of the zones faction plays a huge roll.. And if this is anything like classic was (and Im sure Nilbog etc will drive it to be) you be faction switching every week, as that shit took a long ass time to get one or the other on live... Dragons etc are major hits, along with Tormaxx etc... but quite a lot more time along with those big hits were needed to get out of previous kos..
Mobs wont be downed in 6-7 minutes even with 70--90 people, as their AC is insanely high here (hence why farming primals were a huge advantage in pve content) because in velious in pve Attack played a huge roll in dps...
70-100man zergs still will take 15mins or so to kill said mobs.

[Nirgon]

Tormax to Yeli and back is a horrible grind

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When we originally said "when velious is released" small groups can fuck over big groups that still holds true for quite a bit of content... I wont get into all the logistics and secrets of really boning over the top guilds as my buddies (even though I don't play here are the top end), so explaining those strats to everyone isn't exactly what I would do...
Let's just say a competent group of the "right classes" per se, can screw over any guild attempting to farm Ntov /DN/Kael... Dain is easily bottlenecked and protected like stated before (I doubt dain will be done within the first few months anyways) the rest of the zones faction plays a huge roll.. And if this is anything like classic was (and Im sure Nilbog etc will drive it to be) you be faction switching every week, as that shit took a long ass time to get one or the other on live... Dragons etc are major hits, along with Tormaxx etc... but quite a lot more time along with those big hits were needed to get out of previous kos..
Mobs wont be downed in 6-7 minutes even with 70--90 people, as their AC is insanely high here (hence why farming primals were a huge advantage in pve content) because in velious in pve Attack played a huge roll in dps...
70-100man zergs still will take 15mins or so to kill said mobs.

I think you need to play beta because mobs still die incredibly fast.

[MavstabYoudead]

fights won't take that long. people are infinitely better at this game now then they were on live due to knowing every possible way to make encounters easier.