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Old 09-01-2021, 04:01 PM
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I had posted this vid before, but this guy Pavel is brilliant when it comes to giving a good overview on endurance building. He does training for navy seals, special forces, and elite competitive endurance athletes in the past. If you just watch a few minutes, it becomes quite clear that he really knows his stuff
Oh, neat. Maybe the more I get into cardio the more I'll care about the ins and outs, but for now my plan is just gonna be 20 mins LISS most days, and once that's easy maybe Apple Fitness+ spin class with ipad on stationary. I watched the first 5 minutes and so far it's just basic stuff. The "talk test" is good gauge of like RPE 6.

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When it comes to improving squat/deadlift/bench, the big 3, I really like this smaller channel. This elite powerlifting athlete is very soft-spoken and pleasant to listen to, very knowledgeable, and he does videos where he critiques viewers form on lifts they submit. I actually found that these critiques are more helpful than just being shown the powerlifter’s personal way of doing it, because everyone has a different body type and what works for a powerlifter may not work for everyone

https://m.youtube.com/c/calgarybarbell/featured
uh huh...

I prefer the Barbell Medicine guys. Think they may have had the Calgary guy on their podcast though idk.

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It sounds like I’m speaking to another fellow what we call “hybrid” athlete, meaning someone that wants to dabble in both cardio and lifting, and be as good as possible in both. This is me as well. Unfortunately, these are somewhat mutually exclusive in the fact that upper body muscle is often “dead weight” for endurance sports like distance running. But these are not mutually exclusive to the extent that many in the fitness community claim. A lot of the fitness community act like doing cardio and following a clean eating plan will result in “LOSING YOUR GAINS” due to burning muscle. Based on my experience, this is largely overblown. Just stick to shorter distances like I do, such as 5k’s or shorter runs, shorter cycling if you want to cycle etc. It’s really only long distance half or full marathons that will really fully deplete the body’s glycogen stores to the point where it might need to start cannabalizing muscle. But make sure you are taking in enough calories and don’t be scared of complex carbs such as whole wheat bread, oatmeal, etc. Carbs are only unhealthy for sedentary people who are not burning them, but that are very important as an energy source for active people (more: I am not a dietician and there are effective diets such as Keto that may be completely different)
I'm primarily a barbell athlete and likely always will be. Cardio endurance is something I've been meaning to get into for general health, and my best friend is a cardio endurance athlete. She's invited me to go on bike rides and when I ride my bike I feel like I'm dying, so I know I need to get better at it if I plan to hang w her.

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Pain is the body’s way of signaling there is an issue there. Respect it, don’t punish it!

Also, losing grip strength can be an indication you are training too hard. Little known fact in the fitness community. So pay attention to any sudden drops in grip strength to where you feel you can’t hang onto a bar as easily. A lot of people will claim overtraining is a myth, but it’s not, especially for someone trying to go really hard when starting out
You're doing a whole lot of mansplaining here and it's not really necessary. I know what I'm doing.

Rest is not recommended, and pain symptoms are part of the process.

I've decreased the training volume directed at the affected area, and lowered the load intensity of my bench press. The way I talk about my recovery works for me, and you don't need to worry about it.

Thanks for your enthusiasm, though.
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Old 09-01-2021, 04:40 PM
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Oh, neat. Maybe the more I get into cardio the more I'll care about the ins and outs, but for now my plan is just gonna be 20 mins LISS most days, and once that's easy maybe Apple Fitness+ spin class with ipad on stationary. I watched the first 5 minutes and so far it's just basic stuff. The "talk test" is good gauge of like RPE 6.



uh huh...

I prefer the Barbell Medicine guys. Think they may have had the Calgary guy on their podcast though idk.



I'm primarily a barbell athlete and likely always will be. Cardio endurance is something I've been meaning to get into for general health, and my best friend is a cardio endurance athlete. She's invited me to go on bike rides and when I ride my bike I feel like I'm dying, so I know I need to get better at it if I plan to hang w her.



You're doing a whole lot of mansplaining here and it's not really necessary. I know what I'm doing.

Rest is not recommended, and pain symptoms are part of the process.

I've decreased the training volume directed at the affected area, and lowered the load intensity of my bench press. The way I talk about my recovery works for me, and you don't need to worry about it.

Thanks for your enthusiasm, though.
Hadn’t heard of Barbell Medicine, I’ll have to check them out

Someone saying this hurts so I’m going to punish it is someone indicating a possible future injury. Has nothing to do with me being a man to try to prevent it. Tendon pain is not necessarily part of the process, is this what the Barbell Medicine guys are teaching? From my experience the only time I’ve experienced tendon pain is when I’ve had an injury or issue with that tendon. I think had you phrased it as planning to decrease the training to the specific area, I wouldn’t have said anything at all. It was just a phrasing issue, I misunderstood based on your phrasing

Sorry for the misunderstanding and trying to be helpful. Best of luck to ya
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Old 09-01-2021, 05:06 PM
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Hadn’t heard of Barbell Medicine, I’ll have to check them out

Someone saying this hurts so I’m going to punish it is someone indicating a possible future injury. Has nothing to do with me being a man to try to prevent it. Tendon pain is not necessarily part of the process, is this what the Barbell Medicine guys are teaching? From my experience the only time I’ve experienced tendon pain is when I’ve had an injury or issue with that tendon. I think had you phrased it as planning to decrease the training to the specific area, I wouldn’t have said anything at all. It was just a phrasing issue, I misunderstood based on your phrasing

Sorry for the misunderstanding and trying to be helpful. Best of luck to ya
I've had two arthroscopic shoulder surgeries. Torn labrum, stretched tendon.

Chronic tendinopathy.
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Old 09-01-2021, 05:32 PM
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Overtraining is real. In the 70's a swimmer would swim like 5 hours a day hard and couldn't even eat enough calories to keep up with the burn and get faster. Gotta be smart and train based on your goals.
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Old 09-01-2021, 05:45 PM
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Overtraining is real. In the 70's a swimmer would swim like 5 hours a day hard and couldn't even eat enough calories to keep up with the burn and get faster. Gotta be smart and train based on your goals.
Yeah I wasn’t really bringing up the grip strength as an indication of overtraining because I thought she was, I just found it interesting and a little tidbit I hadn’t heard of before that had personally happened to me before

There was a period of time where I would do squats (5x5’s), then run a fast 4 miles right after on the gym treadmill, then go do deadlifts, then a full 2 hour leg/ab/back/oblique workout. It ended up being close to 3 hours of super intense exercise. I noticed after some time I couldn’t hang onto the deadlift bar (I don’t use straps), and even it was hard to hang onto the pull-up bar. Then my entire body started to ache, joints, muscles, everything, and I started feel nauseous. Stupidly I had thought if I just ate enough, it would be ok, but the body couldn’t recover from that. I was also getting poor sleep. But yeah, the grip strength going, didn’t know about at the time but that coulda been my warning

Some elite CrossFit athletes have actually given themselves rnhabdomylosis, which is where the muscle fibers break down into the blood stream and DESTROY their liver as it tries to filter them. Horrible shit, wouldn’t wish it on anyone

Once again, I didn’t mean to imply pink-grapefruit was overtraining, I just thought that tidbit about how to recognize it was interesting and wish I had known it
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:11 PM
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DBT is my favorite. Avoiding and refusing to accept reality is where most of our pain/trauma comes from. DBT gives you tools to confront and accept things and move on. I always found CBT absolutely worthless.
this is very funny to me, I have had the very same experience. were you pursuing treatment for borderline by chance? that's when this hit me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I DONT THINK IM REALLY BORDERLINE THOUGH, it's more like a humon has to learn new coping skills to deal with these relationship-focused mood swings induced by E. I bet I was not much worse than any given teenage hormonal girl. I have gotten my bad behaviors pretty crazy under control now compared to 2 years ago! Haven't driven off telling Juris im going to buy a rifle from walmart and hotel room in many moons -_-

As for my own health goalz. I am happy with my aesthetic right now, but I am muscularly very weak. I just survived about 6 months of intermittent starvation thanks to gut problem and god I am so weak I can't give a handjob. I am having trouble filling this poast out because my health plans are so ill-conceived right now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I better poast again soon after I build up an exercise boner. I think I will mostly use the recumbent bike in my living room, and maybe do some winter snowshoeing and mountaineering this year. I've skipped 2 years of that!
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Some furry diagnosed me with BPD on the boards here and I learned about DBT doing research on the condition.
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this is very funny to me, I have had the very same experience. were you pursuing treatment for borderline by chance? that's when this hit me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I DONT THINK IM REALLY BORDERLINE THOUGH, it's more like a humon has to learn new coping skills to deal with these relationship-focused mood swings induced by E. I bet I was not much worse than any given teenage hormonal girl. I have gotten my bad behaviors pretty crazy under control now compared to 2 years ago! Haven't driven off telling Juris im going to buy a rifle from walmart and hotel room in many moons -_-

As for my own health goalz. I am happy with my aesthetic right now, but I am muscularly very weak. I just survived about 6 months of intermittent starvation thanks to gut problem and god I am so weak I can't give a handjob. I am having trouble filling this poast out because my health plans are so ill-conceived right now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I better poast again soon after I build up an exercise boner. I think I will mostly use the recumbent bike in my living room, and maybe do some winter snowshoeing and mountaineering this year. I've skipped 2 years of that!
To my knowledge it’s no longer referred to as BPD in the latest DSM but now as Complex PTSD

It used to be referred to as borderline because it was a mix of multiple different diagnosis, so it’s understandable for it to never feel like a good “fit” personally. It’s sort of something they would diagnose when other things also didn’t quite fit. But if it was diagnosed by a furry on the internet then I wouldn’t worry about it

As I’m sure ya’ll have heard, BPD clients have a reputation amongst clinicians as being challenging [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] partly due to trauma sx’s being very resistant to traditional therapy and meds. DBT can do a lot, EMDR is kind of a mixed bag, heard mixed reports

Edit: lol’d at exercise boner
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Old 09-01-2021, 09:37 PM
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Here's my basic ass dinner tonight, just chicken and rice with valentina hot sauce. I'd typically add a veg like brocolli and carrots or some mushrooms, but hey, I'm a lazy jackass.

Since I started my fitness thing in Feb 2020, I've gone from 245lbs down to 163. Skateboarding and swimming as much as I can, feeling great. Best thing I've ever done for my life, hands down. Ohh and also, cigarette free since june 5, let's go.
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