Worried about high-end play(ers)

[Toony]

Originally Posted by SCB [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I came to EQ Classic simply because I like playing EQ. I have little/no interest in raiding (I raid 4 nights a week in WoW currently), but absolutely love the challenging group content in EQ.

My worry is that as I level, my enjoyment will lessen considerably. Essentially all I see on the forums is that high-end content is permanently camped, raid bosses are fought over constantly (something that rarely, if ever, happened on my EQ server back in the day- we had a serverwide raid calendar), people refuse to group with hybrids or people with racial xp penalties, etc.

It just seems like the part of the community most drawn here is the negative type. I'm hoping this isn't true, as I get more than enough of that attitude from my own guildmates in WoW.

As a player who isn't very interested in Fear/Hate raids or anything, do you think what I see as a negative aspect of the community will even affect me? I currently roll an enchanter, and as the levels climb, their ability to solo suffers, so I will likely be reliant on groups.

Yes you should quit now. Well, unless you enjoy playing, then don't.


Glad I could help!

[Ihealyou]

I've yet to have a bad experience with another player in game.

But everyone <3's me.

[Dantes]

I sort of agree with Loke, although I might not be so harsh. Lots of folks sort of have this toe in the water attitude. "What class should I play. Am I going to enjoy this? Is 20 hours enough time to play each week? Am I going to get carpal tunnel? I prefer walking backwards instead of forward, will that work here on P99? If a halfling druid falls in the forest, does it make a sound?" Seriously, just play and have fun.

The forums are like maybe 25% of what's actually happening on the server. The most outspoken people are complaining about things, the concentration of negative energy seems to dwell here.

[rioisk]

Originally Posted by Dantes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I sort of agree with Loke, although I might not be so harsh. Lots of folks sort of have this toe in the water attitude. "What class should I play. Am I going to enjoy this? Is 20 hours enough time to play each week? Am I going to get carpal tunnel? I prefer walking backwards instead of forward, will that work here on P99? If a halfling druid falls in the forest, does it make a sound?" Seriously, just play and have fun.

The forums are like maybe 25% of what's actually happening on the server. The most outspoken people are complaining about things, the concentration of negative energy seems to dwell here.

People are rational. They want to optimize their investment (time played) to maximize return (fun). This guy simply wanted to know whether investing his time (leveling a character/gearing him) is worth the fun/value that the game will deliver or whether the end-game is so uber-competitive that he will just lose interest after a while. These types of questions go hand in hand with people asking about xp bonus/penalty, class/race selection, etc, because people want to maximize their play-time while also ensuring a good long term investment.

Example: People ask whether they should play a druid because druids are overabundant because they want to see if the amount of druids on the sever inhibits new-entry into the class. It's rational. Why play a druid if there is no long-term value in terms of getting into raid guilds or groups.

You may laugh hysterically at this analysis but the economic decision underlies all choices. It just so happens that many people see maximization as faster leveling, easy farming, groupability, soloability, and raid potential, with unique class/race as a small component.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stuff

I know someone whose taken Intro to Microeconomics!

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy simply wanted to know whether investing his time (leveling a character/gearing him) is worth the fun/value that the game will deliver or whether the end-game is so uber-competitive that he will just lose interest after a while.

The guy asked for something no one other than him would be able to find the answer to.
One individual cannot measure the fun/value another person will experience.

It is inherently far more subjective than a simple question on race/exp penalty, or class/race selection.

[Dantes]

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are rational. They want to optimize their investment (time played) to maximize return (fun). This guy simply wanted to know whether investing his time (leveling a character/gearing him) is worth the fun/value that the game will deliver or whether the end-game is so uber-competitive that he will just lose interest after a while. These types of questions go hand in hand with people asking about xp bonus/penalty, class/race selection, etc, because people want to maximize their play-time while also ensuring a good long term investment.

Example: People ask whether they should play a druid because druids are overabundant because they want to see if the amount of druids on the sever inhibits new-entry into the class. It's rational. Why play a druid if there is no long-term value in terms of getting into raid guilds or groups.

You may laugh hysterically at this analysis but the economic decision underlies all choices. It just so happens that many people see maximization as faster leveling, easy farming, groupability, soloability, and raid potential, with unique class/race as a small component.

This does make me chuckle. It's a 10 year old game. We're ALL wasting time no matter what we do. This is like being obsessed about what color MC Hammer pants you should wear. (solid gold is obviously the answer)

[rioisk]

Originally Posted by Dantes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This does make me chuckle. It's a 10 year old game. We're ALL wasting time no matter what we do. This is like being obsessed about what color MC Hammer pants you should wear. (solid gold is obviously the answer)

E-peens have no age.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Dantes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This does make me chuckle. It's a 10 year old game. We're ALL wasting time no matter what we do. This is like being obsessed about what color MC Hammer pants you should wear. (solid gold is obviously the answer)

You sir are Wrong! Black and Purple is the color of obvious choice

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are rational. They want to optimize their investment (time played) to maximize return (fun). This guy simply wanted to know whether investing his time (leveling a character/gearing him) is worth the fun/value that the game will deliver or whether the end-game is so uber-competitive that he will just lose interest after a while.

I'm a super rational and logical person. I relate to this train of thought on a personal level. That being said, if you're putting this much analysis/thought/consideration into whether or not you should play, you probably shouldn't. You're not in the right place for this, and you're looking for an excuse to not do it.