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Old 08-27-2013, 01:28 PM
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Onboard video card meaning integrated into the motherboard?
Yeah, go get a new motherboard, even if it's a working mobo, it's fail anyway.

With the heat most video cards put out these days, I'm surprised manufacturers still build them in unless it's a shitty video card, if that's the case, see my previous statement.
Onboard graphics card only sucks if you use it. When it's disabled it doesn't create heat.

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is built into the cpu not the mobo
Umm no. How would a graphics card be built into the cpu?
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:34 PM
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Onboard graphics card only sucks if you use it. When it's disabled it doesn't create heat.



Umm no. How would a graphics card be built into the cpu?
Intel has integrated GPU's (as does AMD A series) and their latest chipsets just take advantage of that. If you plop in a CPU onto the same motherboard without an integrated GPU, you don't have access to the onboard video.

Rogean, Sounds like MB, Memory, or PSU. Order of most likely to least likely from left to right.

When it comes to testing memory, it can still be bad if it passes tests. I've had that happen quite a bit actually. You can try to time the memory down in bios and see if its more stable.

As far as the PSU, that's a great brand and I don't think I've ever had a DOA one, but its possible. You can check voltages with a multimeter, but a power supply tester I find more reliable. It also tests the grounds correctly. But, if you have another, just swap to test.

After you think you resolved it do an 'sfc /scannow' at a run prompt in Windows to try to repair any files that may have been corrupted. Bad memory may cause file corruption on write to the hard drive.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:38 PM
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Onboard graphics card only sucks if you use it. When it's disabled it doesn't create heat.



Umm no. How would a graphics card be built into the cpu?
Welcome to like 2011:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116502

Built-in visuals The visual features built into the 3nd generation Intel Core processor family deliver everything you need to enjoy a stunning and seamless visual experience. Intel Quick Sync Video and newly-added Intel Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX) make media processing incredibly fast. New built-in Intel HD Graphics with DirectX 11 support delivers discrete 3D graphics performance without the needed cost and power of a discrete graphics card, and features Intel Clear Video Technology that enhances video playback, image quality, and color fidelity for a premium visual experience. What’s more, add another dimension to what you see on your PC with Intel InTRU 3D technology which supports stereoscopic 3D Blu-ray playback in full 1080p resolution over HDMI 1.4 and premium audio.
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:47 PM
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To support my previous theory regarding Microsoft C++.

"Make sure you have Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package installed.

For a 64 bit OS: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=18471"

This person had a similar issue with the error you got in SWTOR. I know in a lot of cases with video games in particular, not having this could restrict you from having various visual runtime components necessary for some games.

I would absolutely tackle this, if you have not.

Supporting Source: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=290107
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:33 PM
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I had a long reply typed out, mainly yelling at Ghostface for thinking that googling everquest technical FAQ would be anything but insulting. This thread was for bouncing ideas off other advanced pc builders. I scrapped it though.

Anyways, I'm going to try a few things based on some posts in this thread, but still leaning towards a MB issue. I have a hard time thinking it's anything software related since we reinstalled the OS twice. The games themselves will install the runtimes.. and we're having freezing outside of games anyways. I guess I can't rule out that there's a particular driver fucking everything up?
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Old 08-29-2013, 01:11 PM
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I had a long reply typed out, mainly yelling at Ghostface for thinking that googling everquest technical FAQ would be anything but insulting. This thread was for bouncing ideas off other advanced pc builders. I scrapped it though.

Anyways, I'm going to try a few things based on some posts in this thread, but still leaning towards a MB issue. I have a hard time thinking it's anything software related since we reinstalled the OS twice. The games themselves will install the runtimes.. and we're having freezing outside of games anyways. I guess I can't rule out that there's a particular driver fucking everything up?
For starters, posting links validating my suggestions is in no way 'googling fixes'.

Secondly, it's Ghostfaced, and if you can't get my name right, then I have no difficulty in assuming why you fucked up this build... no attention to detail.

The fact of the matter is, if you want to build a PC, have spare parts you can test with after you fuck it up. If you were such an advanced builder, you could figure it out on your own. Close the thread and learn to build shit right next time.

Here's a google that you yourself may want to try: Here
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Old 08-31-2013, 10:15 AM
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Its not a software issue, unless something is getting lost in the translation since he is trying to remotely troubleshoot it.

It is odd that is was working fine in your shop, but now it is not at the user's house. As someone mentioned, it is possible something got jostled loose. CPU would be nearly impossible to come loose. A video card could. It could also be related to bad power in the user's house if replacing the MB doesn't fix it.
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:59 AM
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I had a long reply typed out, mainly yelling at Ghostface for thinking that googling everquest technical FAQ would be anything but insulting. This thread was for bouncing ideas off other advanced pc builders. I scrapped it though.
Rog, clearly you just need to google my p99 tech faq for the fix. duh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Joking aside, you've already got it figured out - either the mobo itself is just straight bad, or it's not liking something you've got plugged into it. Regardless, it's time for a new board. Newegg is usually pretty good about returns, but I'd call and find out - tell them it was DOA or something like that and they *should* take it back and refund.

When someone suggested that it may be a problem with the onboard gpu + video card I thought that may be the issue, but since you popped out the vid card and the integrated was still failing, that's not it. It's still possible there's a bad driver jacking hte whole system, but since he's having trouble resetting when frozen directly from mobo... yeah, that's a dead giveaway.

Refund if possible, new mobo. I'll let you pick one out because I'm lazy and it's more fun for you that way [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Old 08-28-2013, 11:36 AM
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We tried the following diagnostics...

Removed a stick of RAM.. still issues.
Placed RAM stick back, removed the other stick... still issues.
Removed video card and used onboard HD 4000... still issues.
They checked RAM.

However, with dual channel you may need to remove both, and replace with two other sticks.
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:43 PM
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They checked RAM.

However, with dual channel you may need to remove both, and replace with two other sticks.
Thats not "checking ram" thats just removing ram and replacing it with other ram, doesnt tell you if you are working with good ram or not.
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