Rules for spawned epic mobs

[Raavak]

I'm guessing Ragefire from this morning. Doubt it matters who got the actual kill, when things are sorted out the right cleric will get their epic. Guessing most would agree with this.

[falkun]

Except it should be cut and dry how to "sort it out" and who the "right cleric" is. When working with "a certain group of players" (credit: cyrano), the grey language in your post is what the aforementioned certain group loves to play lawyer with.

[Metallikus]

I would love for the people who follow server rules have their petitions answered in a timely manner. There are several raid dispute petitions months old that have never been resolved or responded to. This hands off approach goes against everything stated in the policies. Far too long has the douchebag tactics trumped the mild mannered reasonable tact. The lawlessness allows these idiots to train, memblur, kill steal, ninja loot with impunity. Proof is demanded, yet it sits there in the face with countless logs, fraps, screenshots in the unanswered petition section.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by ElanoraBryght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it against server rules to charm / mez / memblur epic mobs, and loot epic mobs that you didn't kill / did not have permission to loot?

Many clerics are eager to know.

You're going to need to be more specific about what mob you're talking about, because I'm not going to give a blanket answer based on your vague and general description

[ElanoraBryght]

Talking things out is a wonderful philosophy. 10 players sitting and waiting for an NPC to spawn can reach a peaceful agreement, yet an 11th can show up and ruin it for them all. And that's one reason we need rules - so the one jerk doesn't ruin a good thing for the other 10, or 20, or 500.

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're going to need to be more specific about what mob you're talking about, because I'm not going to give a blanket answer based on your vague and general description

Maligar in West Karanas
Maligar’s Enraged Doppleganger in West Karanas
Blackwing in Rathe Mountains
Nezekezena or Phurzicon in Burning Woods
Eldrig the Old in Skyfire Mountains
Quag Maelstrom in Ocean of Tears
Phinigel Autropos in Kedge Keep
Lord Nagafen
Zordakalicus Ragefire
Talendor
Lady Vox
Gorenaire
Trakanon
Ixiblat Fer in Burning Woods
Overking Bathezid in Chardok
Zordak Ragefire
Zordakalicus Ragefire
Black Reaver in City of Mist
Venril Sathir
Faydedar in Timorous Deep
Prince Selrach Di'zok in Chardok
Vessel Drozlin in Cabilis
Verina Tomb in Neriak
Cazel in Oasis
Spectral Librarian in Kaesora.
Felia Goldenwing in Skyfire
Wraith of Jaxion in the City of Mist
Impaler Tzilug in the Overthere
Wraith of a Shissar in the Plane of Fear
Ghost of Kindle in The Hole
a forsaken revenant in the Plane of Hate
Tangrin in the Field of Bone
Black Reavers in City of Mist
Neh'Ashirr in the City of Mist
Nezekenza, Phurzikon, and Glyton in the Burning Woods
Undertow in Kedge Keep
Innoruuk in the Plane of Hate
Slixin Klex in the Burning Wood.
Captain Rottgrime in the Overthere
Trabul Earthstrider in East Karana
Iksar betrayer in Chardok
Drolvarg pawbuster in Karnor's Castle
Gwam in Plane of Sky.
Trunt in Mines of Nurga
Vorash and Deep in Lake of Ill Omen
Cazic Thule in the Plane of Fear
Ghost of Glohnor in the Hole
High Scale Kirn in the Hole
Lord Rak in City of Mist
Enraged Golem in the Plane of Fear


Once a person, group, or guild has handed in a quest item, spawned, or engaged any of the above mobs, is it ok for another person, group or guild to charm / mez / memblur that mob without the original party's consent?

If an NPC accepts turn in items from multiple PC's at the same time, is it ok for someone not getting exp to loot items without the agreement of the party which had exp? (Some of the mobs listed have short corpses; a GM will likely not be available to respond before corpse rot.)

[Maze513]

sounds like we need a GM at every VD encounter to be safe

[Rais]

Or people just need other guilds not to attack or loot epic mobs people didn't spawn. This isn't about one guild, its about a server that has people lacking common decency.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by ElanoraBryght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Talking things out is a wonderful philosophy. 10 players sitting and waiting for an NPC to spawn can reach a peaceful agreement, yet an 11th can show up and ruin it for them all. And that's one reason we need rules - so the one jerk doesn't ruin a good thing for the other 10, or 20, or 500.


Maligar in West Karanas
Maligar’s Enraged Doppleganger in West Karanas
Blackwing in Rathe Mountains
Nezekezena or Phurzicon in Burning Woods
Eldrig the Old in Skyfire Mountains
Quag Maelstrom in Ocean of Tears
Phinigel Autropos in Kedge Keep
Lord Nagafen
Zordakalicus Ragefire
Talendor
Lady Vox
Gorenaire
Trakanon
Ixiblat Fer in Burning Woods
Overking Bathezid in Chardok
Black Reaver in City of Mist
Venril Sathir
Faydedar in Timorous Deep
Prince Selrach Di'zok in Chardok
Vessel Drozlin in Cabilis
Verina Tomb in Neriak
Cazel in Oasis
Spectral Librarian in Kaesora.
Felia Goldenwing in Skyfire
Wraith of Jaxion in the City of Mist
Impaler Tzilug in the Overthere
Wraith of a Shissar in the Plane of Fear
Ghost of Kindle in The Hole
a forsaken revenant in the Plane of Hate
Tangrin in the Field of Bone
Black Reavers in City of Mist
Neh'Ashirr in the City of Mist
Nezekenza, Phurzikon, and Glyton in the Burning Woods
Undertow in Kedge Keep
Innoruuk in the Plane of Hate
Slixin Klex in the Burning Wood.
Captain Rottgrime in the Overthere
Trabul Earthstrider in East Karana
Iksar betrayer in Chardok
Drolvarg pawbuster in Karnor's Castle
Gwam in Plane of Sky.
Trunt in Mines of Nurga
Vorash and Deep in Lake of Ill Omen
Cazic Thule in the Plane of Fear
Ghost of Glohnor in the Hole
High Scale Kirn in the Hole
Lord Rak in City of Mist


Once a person, group, or guild has handed in a quest item, spawned, or engaged any of the above mobs, is it ok for another person, group or guild to charm / mez / memblur that mob without the original party's consent?

If an NPC accepts turn in items from multiple PC's at the same time, is it ok for someone not getting exp to loot items without the agreement of the party which had exp? (Some of the mobs listed have short corpses; a GM will likely not be available to respond before corpse rot.)

Lemme stop you there. Only the bolded ones are spawned via a turnin / hail. The rest may be spawned by a PHer being killed or on a timer, but are by no means spawned by a turnin or hail.

[ElanoraBryght]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lemme stop you there. Only the bolded ones are spawned via a turnin / hail. The rest may be spawned by a PHer being killed or on a timer, but are by no means spawned by a turnin or hail.

"...or engaged..."
Ah - good point on the title of the post though. It would have been better named "Rules for epic mobs" without the spawned.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by ElanoraBryght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"...or engaged..."
Ah - good point on the title of the post though. It would have been better named "Rules for epic mobs" without the spawned.

Well that entirely changes it. You have a point for mobs that are physically spawned by a player doing some turnin or hail.

Other mobs that just spawn on a timer (Zordak or raid mobs) they are all too varied to throw an overarching rule over.


Zordak for example is a long ass camp and how do you determine 'who has the next shot at it?'. Does the player have to be not-afk at the camp the entire time? Who would moderate this the players? Why not just try to get your turnin first so you can claim it was yours and screw everyone else (which I'm sure has/will be happening).

Some of these 'camps' are just too long to claim for anyone and have to be FCFS imo.