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Old 06-24-2013, 07:45 PM
stormlord stormlord is offline
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Xious, what you think about these comments:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...7&postcount=48

There's a chart linked there. Here:
http://i52.tinypic.com/2dlll6e.jpg

It's an older chart from (i think) june 2011 that shows project 1999 population stats.

One thing to say is that the linked chart doesn't show the actual population at each level range; it only shows the population share. So it's going to be less accurate than your live readings.

My goal with the chart wasn't just to see the absolute population of each class, but also to see how well each class translates from the lower levels to the higher levels. Surprisingly, classes like the druid and necromancer, according to the chart, have less popularity at max level than at lower levels. The group-based classes, by comparison, actually do much better at max level than at lower levels, even versus the Shaman. What this shows is that classes which focused on something - rather than being diverse - were favored more. And this is even true for the Wizard, even though it has a low popularity in absolute population share. The Wizard translates slightly better to max level than a Shaman, even though the Shaman is more popular.

I was looking at your live readings for the classes, here:
http://p1999pop.dmsimard.com/db/Classes

I compared the average population percentages on the chart to your live readings and got:
Code:
(the chart)
druid: 11.1428
necromancer: 11.1428
monk: 9.1428
magician: 9
cleric: 8.8571
shaman: 8.2857
enchanter: 8.1428
warrior: 7.4285
bard: 5.5714
rogue: 5.5714
shadowknight: 4.8571
wizard: 4.7142
paladin: 3.2857
ranger: 2.8571

/ = equal
! = +/- 1
# = +/- 2
<--- = difference is greater than 2

druid /
necromancer /
monk /
shaman #
warrior <---
enchanter !
cleric #
bard !
rogue !
magician <---
shadowknight /
wizard /
ranger !
paladin !
So the major difference is that the warrior population went up with your stats and the magician population went down. I wonder if this says something about changes to those classes?

And btw... for those wanting to pick a class with longevity and is popular overall...

Here're the classes that translate best to max level (from june 2011), ordered by their absolute popularity:
1. Monk
2. Shaman
3. Warrior
4. Enchanter
5. Cleric
6. Rogue
7. Wizard

My opinion:
There's not any doubt that the monk is an all-star class. It has high longevity and high popularity. It's a tie between Cleric and Warrior. Enchanter has to be included because of its longevity. I'm less supportive of the Shaman because its longevity is lowest of all of them, but it's still better than a Necro or Druid.

Take note: A real comparison between classes needs to weight longevity and overall popularity. So if the longevity is lower, a high popularity can compensate and still give a class a decent rating.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:48 PM
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Interesting chart, may I ask where you got the numbers from ?

My database is a bit out of date - I'm still dragging records from January/February that may or may not be relevant anymore. This is why I'm refreshing it this week.
Thing is, however, active or inactive, I have picked up 5095 unique characters. That's a lot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:47 PM
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Out of the 6000 characters now in the database, there are only 557 characters I haven't seen since monday (whose' records date back to february) - that's kind of interesting actually. It means that most players are still here !
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:57 PM
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:18 PM
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Accurate data is accurate
Ahah, oh yeah. And you can almost tell who it is by looking up the guild info too: http://p1999pop.dmsimard.com/details...ne%20Gentlemen
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:07 PM
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When I get a chance I'll post the stats of people online tonight. I saw 900 people online. Maybe sometime tmro.
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Old 06-29-2013, 12:16 PM
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Oh, man, I screwed up. I thought there was around 500 characters that had not been seen since since february but my SQL fu failed me.
There are, in fact, 4034 characters that I have not seen this week so far (updating sometimes more than 3 times a day) and whose data dates back to January/February.

What do you guys think I should do with these ? This changes my plan .. I think they're still relevant to some extent since they are characters that EXIST on the server.
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Old 06-29-2013, 01:22 PM
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Oh, man, I screwed up. I thought there was around 500 characters that had not been seen since since february but my SQL fu failed me.
There are, in fact, 4034 characters that I have not seen this week so far (updating sometimes more than 3 times a day) and whose data dates back to January/February.

What do you guys think I should do with these ? This changes my plan .. I think they're still relevant to some extent since they are characters that EXIST on the server.
use it
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I compared the average population percentages on the chart to your live readings and got:
Code:
(the chart)
druid: 11.1428
necromancer: 11.1428
monk: 9.1428
magician: 9
cleric: 8.8571
shaman: 8.2857
enchanter: 8.1428
warrior: 7.4285
bard: 5.5714
rogue: 5.5714
shadowknight: 4.8571
wizard: 4.7142
paladin: 3.2857
ranger: 2.8571

/ = equal
! = +/- 1
# = +/- 2
<--- = difference is greater than 2

druid /
necromancer /
monk /
shaman #
warrior <---
enchanter !
cleric #
bard !
rogue !
magician <---
shadowknight /
wizard /
ranger !
paladin !
So the major difference is that the warrior population went up with your stats and the magician population went down. I wonder if this says something about changes to those classes?

And btw... for those wanting to pick a class with longevity and is popular overall...

Here're the classes that translate best to max level (from june 2011), ordered by their absolute popularity:
1. Monk
2. Shaman
3. Warrior
4. Enchanter
5. Cleric
6. Rogue
7. Wizard

Hard for me to believe a Wizard is even on the list. But very glad for your effort on this. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:26 AM
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What do you guys think I should do with these ? This changes my plan .. I think they're still relevant to some extent since they are characters that EXIST on the server.
If you can't decide what to do, you could always add a new tab to your chart. Label one tab "active characters" and another tab "all characters." Include the inactive characters in the latter tab.

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It makes sense that classes like Wizards, Clerics, and Warriors would do well at level 60 (they're important raiding classes) while solo-oriented classes would peter out somewhat. Druids, in particular, are often created for the purpose of serving as port mules and hence don't need to get to high levels to perform that role well. The hybrid classes tend to run out of gas in the mid 50's as the experience penalty crushes their will to level.

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