Ranger weapons and offhand ratio.

[Gustoo]

If you are soloing or in a group without a class that can slow, a ranger should absolutely be using a swarmcaller.

Rangers do great. Back on live people didn't really understand EXP penalty like they do now, and now rangers are much more shunned than they ever were.

Just be a good player and have a good time.

Beaniron - don't go for "full" anything armor. Some pieces of ivy etched are worth getting, much is not worth getting. Get the highest AC items you can...many of them are cheap. Str and Sta helps a lot too. 2 lamentations is fun for the look and the stats make you feel less weak, so that is cool. Get all of the cheap pieces of tolans for the high AC that will keep you alive when you accidentally grab aggro or something.

Rangers rule.

[Messianic]

Silver Swiftblade until 20, Woodsman's staff until epic.

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[fennixad]

Originally Posted by Aaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Paladins have significantly less DPS than Rangers. And SK's barely more than Paladins.

Read my post again. Rangers have the worst dps than anyother DPS class. is paladin a dps class? didnt know, i though paladins was tanks.

[fennixad]

Originally Posted by Beaniron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rangers have Kick, which does more damage than the Bash that Pallies and SK's have (sans the Stun effect). Rangers have both Dual Wield AND Double Attack, whereas Pallies and SK's have one, and Bards have the other, but Rangers are the only hybrids that get both.

Rangers have solid DPS with the right weapons, especially post-epic. They're not gonna beat a Monk or a Rogue in raw DPS, but they can contend with Warriors (dots, small nukes, and archery crits vs a Warriors melee crits), and they beat out Pallies, SK's, and Bards.

Offensively, Rangers are fine. It's their defensive aspect that suffers, having weaker defense because of Chain armor, and lower maximum caps with Dodge, Parry, and Riposte.

1: read please. i said DPS class
2: sure, join tmo or you wont get your epic
3: ranger are not fine, just fun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[fennixad]

Originally Posted by lecompte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya, that is mostly wrong. At 59, I out DPS monks and rogues under 55, warriors, SKs, and Paladins. You did say "other dps class" and so I'll say you were just talking about rogues and monks. I can beat a 60 monk sometimes -- not often, and a rogue if they screw up their backstabs but yes, if you just mean MONK/ROGUE at 60, a ranger will lose.

You do need to form a reputation but not to compensate for your class, but for the exp penalty.

Yes, I started a sentence with a preposition -- deal.

Lecompte i know you are pretty skilled, but if you out dps a monk/rogue at 60, tell them to delete eq and play hello kitty. a monk with epic/haste will out dps you naked.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by fennixad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Read my post again. Rangers have the worst dps than anyother DPS class. is paladin a dps class? didnt know, i though paladins was tanks.

I read it as worst dps of the classes in the game. You worded it kinda dumb.

So they're the worst DPS of the three classes you want to include them with. And only barely.

That's like saying SK's are the worst tanks in the game.

Or rangers are middle of the road of all the melee classes in the game, since they out-dps bards significantly.

[lecompte]

Originally Posted by fennixad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lecompte i know you are pretty skilled, but if you out dps a monk/rogue at 60, tell them to delete eq and play hello kitty. a monk with epic/haste will out dps you naked.

I don't even think this merits a reply but I will go with... you're wrong. This game is based on DnD and sometimes people roll 1, over and over again, while smeone else is rolling 20 back to back. Happens in DnD, happens here. A rogue is rare, a monk not so much. Get up to 60, run a parser and let me know what the result it.

[Prodigal Explorer]

What about for a Noobie Ranger who can't afford a woodsman staff? What are some weapons that I should keep my eye out for that are reasonably priced?

Also, should I even bother going for 2h if I don't have a Woodman's Staff?