A Bard's Tale

[Barkingturtle]

Seek help.

[Sollix]

This thread is so much more bearable now that I have Dostarr ignored.

[SavageBeast15]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im out Dostarr...gonna distance myself from this train wreck you have created. Good luck with your business but I won't be providing escrow for this anymore. Not that I have yet anyways.

Giving bards a bad name with this bullshit.

Lol you defended this scumbag on his PL thread when everyone was trying to get the word out on this scummy bummy! look at you now!

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im out Dostarr...gonna distance myself from this train wreck you have created. Good luck with your business but I won't be providing escrow for this anymore. Not that I have yet anyways.

Giving bards a bad name with this bullshit.

It doesn't take a lot to give most Bards a bad name. I know it is not fair for the few on here that play them well like they can be played. But very few do or can. Sorry it is a fact. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] As a Healer I don't need some jackass singing one song half the night in a group I am in.

I am not blaming a lot of Bards for doing it. There is a reason Sony came up with Melody later in the game. Twisting 3 or 4 songs for hours on end and trying to talk in a group just sucks. But I still don't like Bards on average in a group. One of the best groups I was ever in was in CoM with a Bard pretty much doing all the work by himself. He was just awesome. Don't remember his name to save my ass. But he or she was rare as hell.

[Barrier]

I rarely post, but I do come on and read posts and this one struck me. Try being in The Dreadlands the last week or so. The whole zone, almost, is being pulled. Watching 50 mobs in a train is interesting at first and then annoying, because when the bard dies, those mobs many times boomerang back due to transferred aggro.

As for the OP, this came to my mind... "If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, then you're the asshole." - Raylan Givens.

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by Dostarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL Sorry Bob, Idk how it ended up like this. You talked to me, I'm decent. I've always been respectful in OT. There's a few bards who don't know how to play their class I've bitched at but...that's really it. My attitude is toxic, because it gets old...Even on this thread, all this hate and I've never done anything wrong. Using the cyclical logic that because my attitude is toxic now that caused my attitude being toxic is a bit laughable. You can't presuppose a conclusion as a basis for your hypothesis in support of the conclusion. However yes, it is absolutely toxic now, rumour mail and facetious ignorance have led Rojas to being hated. So I will say this now, clear and concise.

The reason I made this thread, the point of treating bards like shit even when they are being decent, has never been shown to be more clear than by this thread. I was a nice bard, I did give a shit...But seriously? Whats the point in ATTEMPTING to be nice, when people still spread lies and make the same claims as if you HAD been a douche. I might as well be a douche and make more profit, if I am going to suffer the negativity regardless of my effort. Hence the point of this thread to begin with!! I noticed it happening. And now, due to all the BS, it has happened. I'm sure I still won't be a complete douche...but I'm not gonna spend an hour a day talking to groups..I'll just pull what I believe will leave them enough and be done with it. Sorry if it's not enough, feel free to msg me as always I'll be reasonable but..don't expect me to go out of my way for ya if ya act like the people in this thread. To those NOT in this thread//on forums...fuck, am I sorry. //endthread

Yeah you are clearly the victim here.

But seriously, I mean this with the best intentions....you should seek professional help. You may not have any "mental defects", but you clearly have issues that haven't been dealt with.

[mike90]

well in my only experience with Rojas i was soloing in ot walking around for several minutes at a time unable to find mobs. Then i see this guy run by with half the zone.

I say in ooc man i hate bards sometimes. This guy gets all offended like somehow I shouldn't mind one person taking half a zones mob population. He then says relax I don't even get exp on these like the fact that hes just pling for profit makes it better and not worse.

Cut to 20 or so mins later I see him oocing for a rez so I say "lol" in ooc. He says REALLY? Like I shouldn't find his death while attempting to kite 50 mobs amusing. I say yes really and he responds by saying " your mother should have had an abortion".

Classy and charming fellow def doesn't give bards a bad name

[Barkingturtle]

Rojas so bad he gives abortions a bad name, imo.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rojas so bad he gives abortions a bad name, imo.

Now that is pretty low lol. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] He isn't the first or the last Bard on here that will be a Horse's Ass.

[Calibix]

Originally Posted by Dalven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a bard you have the power to make these groups awesome. You have to work hard, often harder than most others in the group, but that's just part of being a bard. Being in a group with a cleric and four melees will happen to you and you do have to do everything.

I remember being in one group like this where I was doing the pulling/haste/cc/snare/slow/mana etc and somebody was still bitching that I wasn't chain pulling with charm. Picking up the slack is bard's job but you can manage all these roles with a bit of creative thinking - I find if somebody isn't doing something asking them to politely and saying why usually works. An example I often find myself using is asking people to root mobs so I can be out chain pulling without worrying the group will wipe if they don't get the mob down before snare wears off.

I feel a bit sorry for monks - there are so many casters in seb which must make FD pulling a nightmare. However bard's are so effective at pulling in Seb there's no way anyone else should be pulling over you in a group, no matter the set up.

If anything getting into a duo/trio with an enchanter or shammy is a lot of fun - I've duo'd/trio'd a lot of the camps in seb and its good to get out of the traditional group scenario as well.

The problem I have with low hp kiting is while its a creative way to level, once mastered it makes things trivial. Its why I only kited on and off up until level 40, and even then it was usually when I couldn't get a group. Once I went to Sol B and realised I could make such a big difference to groups that was the end of my kiting days, other than a few low hp kite - which was mostly just to prove I could do it.

These are things I've found in my 60 levels as a bard in any case [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point, which I think you kind of got, is that you have to work significantly harder than everyone else in that case. Or I could low hp kite with much less effort, much less risk, and much greater reward. Don't get me wrong, a good bard can carry a group so hard, more so than any other class in my opinion. But I also feel that everyone should carry their weight. If I'm doing that much work, I'd rather it be contributed to people who deserve it.

Don't get me wrong, I group a lot still, as I've only really been kiting with one person lately (Bob /wave!). I'm just to the point where I'd rather camp something solo than go through the headache of PuGs unless its an invite from a friend.