Tips From Mage Players?

[VincentVolaju]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mages still own in Kunark, don't listen to the propaganda.

I was wondering about that, maybe you could explain a little better Reiker? Everyone I have talked to about Mages has always they get nerfed hard or just suck bad compared to other class's when Kunark comes. But I was wondering how? Like what could such a drastic change be in Kunark that would cause a Mage to not be good anymore? Do all there pets take dmg / hp cuts or something? And how come you say they still own when others say they dont?

Also, might be a newb question but doesnt summoning a pet take like 10 seconds or so? So when you guys are sayin reclaim then resummon to chain pets on a mob. After you reclaim, doesnt the mob rush you and beat the shit out of you while your trying to cast a 10sec long spell, and is constantly interrupting it?

[Qaedain]

The point is to /pet get lost less than a second before the new pet finishes summoning. The MOB never has time to close the distance.

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by VincentVolaju [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was wondering about that, maybe you could explain a little better Reiker? Everyone I have talked to about Mages has always they get nerfed hard or just suck bad compared to other class's when Kunark comes. But I was wondering how? Like what could such a drastic change be in Kunark that would cause a Mage to not be good anymore? Do all there pets take dmg / hp cuts or something? And how come you say they still own when others say they dont?

Mages basically have one role (besides stuff like coth): deliver dps through pets and nukes. Their dps is still high end in Kunark, and they're still good at soloing. Very few classes can be considered "powerful" in classic, mages still keep trucking along as powerful in Kunark but share that slice of the pie with more classes. And if you're capable of completing your epic, you're one of the best classes in EQ again. The epic pet is ridiculous.

[VincentVolaju]

Reiker whats your ingame name?

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mages basically have one role (besides stuff like coth): deliver dps through pets and nukes. Their dps is still high end in Kunark, and they're still good at soloing. Very few classes can be considered "powerful" in classic, mages still keep trucking along as powerful in Kunark but share that slice of the pie with more classes. And if you're capable of completing your epic, you're one of the best classes in EQ again. The epic pet is ridiculous.

This cannot be bolded enough. A mage with the epic pet is downright silly. A mage with the epic pet grouped with a 39+ cleric is... hell on wheels.

[Insedeel]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This cannot be bolded enough. A mage with the epic pet is downright silly. A mage with the epic pet grouped with a 39+ cleric is... hell on wheels.

Aye, this isn't the most impressive example, but it's one that sticks out in my mind.. Was on my 56 druid at the time and had 2 level 55 mages ask if I wanted to go to seb chef camp, and I remember from in past groups, that was by no means an easy camp to break even with a full group. But both of the mages had their epic pets, and they really only needed a snarer (the small heals were just a bonus). Well needless to say... I gained more exp than I thought humanly possible in the few short hours we were there, and we were killing stuff at probably 2x the rate that any of my full groups (even well balanced groups) had EVER done.

Mage's definitely aren't the powerhouse they were in classic in kunark and velious without the epic pet, but they were still PLENTY powerful, and could still hold their own with the best in kunark and even in a lot of velious until the end-game velious. That's when gear started inflating to a huge degree and pets started lagging behind. It was even worse in luclin, and pets were on the course to the "dark ages" of pets, but in velious they were still good, and worth while. So fortunately with this server Mage's will always be useful, and hold their own, epic pet or not.

[krforrester]

Back in the early days of EQ, mages were really misunderstood. People just didn't recognize the value in having mage dps in a group.

Instead, people were always looking for the holy trinity (tank, chanty, cleric) followed up with backup healers such as a shammy, which also has slow, and/or a druid for ports and snare.

It was absolute hell getting or starting a group as a mage. Now, those all mage groups were absolutely devastating and tons of fun.

[Insedeel]

Originally Posted by krforrester [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back in the early days of EQ, mages were really misunderstood. People just didn't recognize the value in having mage dps in a group.

Instead, people were always looking for the holy trinity (tank, chanty, cleric) followed up with backup healers such as a shammy, which also has slow, and/or a druid for ports and snare.

It was absolute hell getting or starting a group as a mage. Now, those all mage groups were absolutely devastating and tons of fun.

Yep, some of my favorite groups back in the day were mage groups. I would set them up whether I was on my mage, or on my druid (as a druid, I just offered my heals, evac, snare to the group, and just invited 4 mages, and a necro for pulling). We'd just DESTROY everything in our path. Fun times.

[Vyal]

Kraft those numbers are off- way way off just have a cleric cheal any of your earth pets from 1%

[VincentVolaju]

I dunno anything about "Epics", to me "epic" means purple loots lol. The way everyone is talking though it sounds like every class has 1 "epic" spell or item or something? If thats the case, if this item/spell something that the player can get solo, or with a small group of friends? Or do you need to be in a big raid guild and wait in line for your turn to get it?