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Old 08-10-2013, 02:34 PM
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Isn't this a little late? i mean, those people buying up tons and tons of accounts (which worked to further destroy any sane way to raid on this server) have already done so. Just look at some folks with 5+ level 60, fully geared, permanently camped at raid target spots and also the huge amount of level 52's camped at nagafen/vox.

I'm not sure if the only motivation was to reduce the headache this gave to the administration, but surely the effects account trading/selling has had on everyone's ability to enjoy the server was taken into account as well.

Another thing: all the crazy scrambling to lock down prenerf items and mobs (guise, etc) could have been atleast mitigated somewhat if this were the policy from day 1.
I'm totally on-board with what another poster said as well - MQ's desperately need to be discontinued as well.

So pretty much,
Open up a new server without MQ's, account trades, and possibly consider an overall xp reduction of 25% or so to account for all the things on this server which cause it to be considerably more forgiving/easier to level than it was in the past (vision, medbook, etc).

It's been pretty accepted by everyone that item-duping/cheating/rmt ruled this server for a very long time. I commend the efforts of the administration to correct these things and of course Ephi has become a hugely positive factor for this server, yet these issues cannot be retroactively corrected.
Project 1999 has been a great test and many, many issues have been identified and solved, but I think alot of folks here get the feeling that this beta phase should be over, it's time to implement these new findings on a fresh slate.
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:46 PM
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Just look at some folks with 5+ level 60, fully geared, permanently camped at raid target spots and also the huge amount of level 52's camped at nagafen/vox.
Ok, let's look at those folks.

Who are they?
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Old 08-10-2013, 09:05 PM
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Really? I don't see any point in calling out specific people, but I'm sure you as well as I know that many people on this server that are 60 have multiple accounts which were acquired through trades. Not many folks advertise it, but I'd point at Jeremy as a case and point (only because he advertises his toons in his sig). I've taken a long hiatus from the game myself and I'm waiting for a new server to be formed to come back. I just think banning account trading is a really good step in the right direction, but could have been an initial policy.

I'm not some guy that never accomplished anything on this server or never participated in account trading, but looking back, I wish it had never been allowed. The server is being ruined by both it and MQ's.
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Old 08-11-2013, 02:33 AM
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Really? I don't see any point in calling out specific people, but I'm sure you as well as I know that many people on this server that are 60 have multiple accounts which were acquired through trades. Not many folks advertise it, but I'd point at Jeremy as a case and point (only because he advertises his toons in his sig). I've taken a long hiatus from the game myself and I'm waiting for a new server to be formed to come back. I just think banning account trading is a really good step in the right direction, but could have been an initial policy.

I'm not some guy that never accomplished anything on this server or never participated in account trading, but looking back, I wish it had never been allowed. The server is being ruined by both it and MQ's.
The only person I'm calling out is YOU. You're exaggerating the fuck out of the account trading "problem" when you say stuff like "lol errybody got 5 fully geared 60s logged out at raid spawns and it ruins the game and it's all because of account trading."

I asked who these people are because I know you won't be able to list more than a handful (if that), even though you talk about it like it is common knowledge how many of these people there are and who they are and how that is causing such a big issue.
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Old 08-11-2013, 02:37 AM
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Old 08-11-2013, 12:43 PM
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The only person I'm calling out is YOU. You're exaggerating the fuck out of the account trading "problem" when you say stuff like "lol errybody got 5 fully geared 60s logged out at raid spawns and it ruins the game and it's all because of account trading."

I asked who these people are because I know you won't be able to list more than a handful (if that), even though you talk about it like it is common knowledge how many of these people there are and who they are and how that is causing such a big issue.
I said "some people" which is a bit different than "errybody". maybe it was a bit of an exaggeration, but the point is account trading made accounts way too easy to get - I personally had a hand of the maestro for sale before taking my break and was offered several different 58+ accounts for just the MQ. It's kind of strange that a single item (there are many many others) can be traded for a fully geared account capable of raiding or more specifically, capable of being camped on a raid target.

As far as jeremy goes - I didn't know that, if its true. bravo.
It's worth noting that if even 10 people have multiple 60's or 52's acquired through trades, thats probably a good portion of the true raiding community. Of course, there are more than 10 people with multiple accounts (maybe not 5) gotten through trades.

Did I say account trading alone ruined the game? or did I say it contributed to to its ruin, along with MQ's? And raiding isn't the only problem it causes, as i stated in my original post. It perpetuates people camping mobs/items only for the reason of making valuable accounts (pre-nerf items, epic mobs, etc.).

No problem alone is severe enough to RUIN the game, but in conjunction with one another, they do. Especially for those that get to their late 50's and realize there's no room to do anything fun except reroll an alt. Sometimes this is because of the more hardcore people that have gotten everything they need and are now just snatching up MQ's or are getting gear for their trade acquired char, cockblocking the more casual players.
There will certainly be people that are willing to level up a few chars themselves for the sole purpose of raiding and gearing, but I think at least having to do it personally slows down or deters people.
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