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Old 08-26-2013, 08:35 PM
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Transfers? Transfers WITHOUT DROPPABLES?

You guys don't fucking get it. Your server sucks and is dying (or already dead). But you come here and try to convince people on a thriving server to leave here to go to a shithole? Or better yet, to leave here and go to a shithole without any of the droppable gear they earned here?

YOUR server is the one that needs new blood. You should be begging to have COPIES from blue to red WITH full gear if you really are the badasses just looking for PvP that you claim to be.


Even if you did get some support for transfers with or without droppables, the vast majority of the (few) people who would move would just be moving characters they don't like anymore (and so probably won't stick with), or they'll be people who don't play blue anymore and maybe have some chance of liking red, or they'll be characters that belong to players who only play red anymore anyways.
No one suggested that, that is only their opinion. Besides its the GM decision and you don't have to X-fer if you don't want to.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:37 PM
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I propose an alternative: shut down Red, transfer all Red characters to Blue, and open a new PvP-Teams server with SZ ruleset.

Nihilum can choose to test their PvE chops versus TMO or restart with the rest of the PvPers.

Given the current situation on Blue, I can't imagine hundreds of players not taking the chance to start fresh on a new server. Population would stabilize at no less than 300-400 peak.

Starting the server soon would also give people a chance to make significant progress before Velious. If you wait until Velious comes out to launch a new server, all the returning players will flood Blue, because that where their geared characters are. Launch the new server now and many will return and start on it, knowing they have some time to gear a character up fresh for Velious.

Making the new server PvP-teams also adds an element that will help to address the major issue plaguing Blue: the jam-up at the high end game. PvP not only gives players something to do besides raid, it provides a direct way of solving raid drama without the need for GM involvement. Many blue players would be hesitant to start on a PvP server, but would take the chance if they had a good reason and felt like the new server would have enough of a population to give them some safety leveling up. Team PvP provides this degree of leveling safety by design, and launching the new server during a period of high dissatisfaction with Blue would provide the impetus many players need to give it a try, ensuring a high population.

In short, there has never been a better time for a PvP-Teams server. Red is not quite dead, but will never be anything more than it is now. There is zero incentive for new players to start there, and transfers are extremely problematic. Blue is what it is, everyone knows it. It's a fun, casual server for leveling up and reliving nostalgia, but after spending some time there the rot becomes apparent. The situation at the high end/raiding level with TMO's domination, combined with the server history of plat duping, RMT and account selling has left a bad taste in the mouths of many, causing them to walk away from the server once they got a character in the 50-60 range. Many of these people are not burned out on P1999 and classic EQ, they're simply burned out on Blue. Give them a chance to restart on a server that is guaranteed not to have the problems that Blue does now, or that Red did at its launch, and many will take advantage of it. I think it would be a big success and a lot of fun.
This is the best suggestion I have read about this situation period! SZ Rules and a fresh start!
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:41 PM
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End segregation now!!!!
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:42 PM
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No one suggested that, that is only their opinion. Besides its the GM decision and you don't have to X-fer if you don't want to.
Did you read this thread?

I really don't care if they allow transfers or copies of any type whatsoever, because I know I don't have to do it. I probably wouldn't even make a copy with full droppables. I just hate the way the red players are constantly begging for players to come join their crappy, failed server because of how nice it would be for them to have more people to play with, but then a bunch of the red players are unwilling to have blues copy, or transfer with droppables, etc. If they want more players, then make it hard for blues to say "No" to coming to red. If they don't want more players, then please just gtfo of the blue forums with the recruitment/bravado/etc.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:42 PM
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LOL
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:42 PM
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:43 PM
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as I read it transfers would go both ways you sound bias Tec
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:45 PM
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I am fine with transfers from Blue to Red, but Red to blue = HELL no. You all have post-blue nerfed dropps, way easier exp rates, etc etc. It would jack up our economy and majorly devalue the items we have worked hard for here.

Sorry, you picked Red, stay off of Blue.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:45 PM
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I say it's a brilliant idea. MM is way too crowded on blue and way too empty on red.

Plus some people on blue want to be on red but don't want to give up all the effort they put n on blue and vice versa.

Or you may want to split the chars on a server and just transfer one toon to be able to play on both servers.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:46 PM
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Naked...

Okay no droppables and no gear above hate/fear/sky level.
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