GM Rule book from Kunark/ Velious - Limited CS Zones

[xarzzardorn]

quoting the handbook is completely pointless. that doesn't actually mean that's what verant cs' in game practice was

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by xarzzardorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

quoting the handbook is completely pointless. that doesn't actually mean that's what verant cs' in game practice was

Did you know there wasn't even a play nice policy officially until kunark was out?

It was implemented due to the fact players were ending their subscriptions as a result of the griefing that took place. Some of the stuff that goes on here is the very reason verant even implemented a playnice policy to begin with.

Now its somewhat of a catch 22 in this situation. Kunark has been out over 2 years, and the devs are likely focused on getting velious out asap. This is unfortunate for the guilds who have yet to fully experience kunark as they have been cockblocked out of content for whatever unjustifiable reason.

So now theres a situation where velious is on the horizon, and only one guild has really experienced kunark in its entirety. I would atleast think eliminating sanctioned training prior to velious release would open the door to a more friendly and competitive raiding atmosphere for those of us who have ultimately missed out on kunark.

As far as I can tell there is only one guild supporting sanctioned training in VP, and they have had their 2+ years in VP without much competition at all. For those who say "man up and do something about it" I ask you this: why is it more logical to allow training in a zone when this is the opposite of what it was like on live? What purpose/benefit is there that is legitimate?

If FE was able to zone into VP, engage in training retardation for 8 hours and still come away with a druushk kill with 24 players to TMO's 38, then whats to stop a guild from doing the same in sleepers tomb? There is literally no winning argument for allowing training in any zone (vp/st/ntov(, or atleast none have been presented. Its just a tactic bad players use when they know they are outmatched.

If a guild really thought it was worth wasting 6 to 12 hours engaging TMO in training wars to get a single shot at a dragon, they would do so. Point is, its pointless. Training has no place in a competitive raiding scene, because all evidence so far shows that it minimizes competition. Some of us are above lowering our standards to that level just to win the most pixels at the end of the day.



If anyone can come up with a legitimate reason training is allowed, I'm very open to hearing the explanation. So far all that has come up in support of sanctioned training is that it prevents poopsocking. So in effect the group of players willing to actually sit there and camp a mob(effort) is punished by the server rules which allow lower skilled and less dedicated players to fuck them over with trains.

Outside of VP, competition consists of parking characters at raid mobs while one designated tracker watches for the mob. How/why is VP any different? Training there or anywhere is simply interference and nothing else. It takes more skill to race for/pull/engage dragons in VP without training, I just think the people saying otherwise are cowards and/or greedy liars.

[Godefroi]

Burden of proof my little TMO friend.

Official documents were provided, what have you ?

Keep trying.