For Rogean: A Primer on Teams

[heartbrand]

Did you not get the memo? We don't need to pick a team because we get to farm more uncontested loot for six months then be merged to the server where we get to kill it. Though it does seem like there's a strong amount of nihilum who will all play together there and with team rules, its pretty safe to say they'll dominate again. Won't be me tho, me and my child / wife / dog will be playing wizards.

[Aenor]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I get to shit up team99 and then merge to it with a highly organized and geared raid force down the line.

I doubt it. 99% likely Nihilum99 gets merged into blue. The point of making a new server is to have a fresh start and not repeat the mistake of allowing Nihilum to exploit while punishing others for it. That purpose is kind of defeated if you then import Nihilum's exploited gains into Team99. Rogean is playing PR brew... have fun on blue.

[Aenor]

And it's hilarious to me that you think getting merged into blue elevates you to bentley status. Once a bluebie, always a bluebie.

[heartbrand]

Was basically confirmed in TS last night by Zade that merging to blue was a mistake by rogean and that it would be the two red servers merging, though ill be trolling about it nonetheless on blue forums for great luls.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Aenor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And it's hilarious to me that you think getting merged into blue elevates you to bentley status. Once a bluebie, always a bluebie.

If you don't understand why then I can't help you pal. It has nothing to do with the actual playing of the game tho.

[Aenor]

I don't understand and will never understand. No help required. I would never place any value in a character on a server with no PvP.

Edit: Oh I get it... a tacit but plausibly deniable admission that you're on Niz's RMT payroll. Bentley status... I get it!

[heartbrand]

Triple post rage but here's what you don't get. You aren't going to beat people who treat eq as a real life job in place of the job they don't have. The vast majority of nihilum are all going to play the team server and are more dedicated than ever. Except this time when they have 200 members you'll only be able to recruit from two teams to fight them, and if you roll their team? Enjoy having to reroll to compete.

[Rec]

Originally Posted by Aenor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you hardcode the teams, one team will always dominate. Population will flock to whatever team Nihilum picks and it will be a blue server with occasional flashes of grief PvP. There will be no possibility of contesting whatever team Nihilum picks. The solution? More teams, not fewer. Look for another post from me in a couple hours.

One team will only dominate if you don't actually learn from the lessons of the past. As much I liked SZ anything can be improved and should be

[Aenor]

Originally Posted by Rec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One team will only dominate if you don't actually learn from the lessons of the past. As much I liked SZ anything can be improved and should be

You can learn all the lessons you want. If you give people the option to select a team where they will be non-kos to the majority of the population, that's what they will pick. You can take away the advantage of the evil team having Kunark to itself at SZ's launch. Doesn't matter. More than 50% of the server will be evil team. And the more the numbers skew that way, the more players who started off good and neutral will reroll to evil to escape the gankfest = blue server. Devs, please do not listen to all these bluebies. We don't want Blue Part II.

[heartbrand]

The more teams the more you help a highly organized juggernaut like nihilum. Most people will roll with their friends or whatever team seems coolest to them. Pop will be dispersed throughout the teams. Nihilum on the other hand will have a 100 man roster all rolling the same team plus all the new blue apps who can basically be safe from pvp on a team server. Since you can't x team you would need a similar force from one of the teams. Zero chance at that.

Big guilds can be defeated with variance + boxing + high rate of exp with all three being dependent on one anoter (variance without boxing only fuels the problem further) that's about the only way tho.

With velious and people getting geared you'd likely see some nihilum defections down the road. On a team server? Who can I defect to I'm hard coded to my team. Some of the best red99 moments have been defections.