Classic PvP: I was there. The truth about teams, item loot, etc

[Bazia]

still playing blue when i want some consistent pve with chatting

but when i log on to pvp server and i want a camp im going to get ya feel me heh

[runlvlzero]

LOL, why not mix the two? Diehard RZ'er, World is Binary. I like RZ but its not workin. Pop is not sustaining. They will probably shut down R99 and merge to blue if both servers fail. Good riddance.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. A lot of people clamoring for teams are hoping that people will come out of the wood works and lead the way because they have their prefered "style" of box. So whats to hate? Red99 isn't gonna go away anytime soon.

To me those people are like that girl who went against me on xp loss in pvp on the forums 2 years ago, the princess or whatever her name is that was in spear of the nation. They have all this theorycrafting in mind. But when you get down to the daily practice of the ruleset, when they realise the epic grief that comes out of it, then you dont see these people post for a year + as they get the fuck out of that mess and stop logging on.

To me the best possible outcome, which is still bad, would be a fresh new FFA server where xp loss in pvp is removed from the start. Its to me the less griefy EQ pvp environment i can think of, where the teams can come and go, and alliances arent set in stone where faction balance isnt locked down foreverish.

Teams will probably be better starting out, but as soon as the more experienced/more time on their hands griefers start getting ahead, its going to be much, much worse than on red99.

Can you imagine coach spending 8 hours a day in lowbie zones, Jesus, I can.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

still playing blue when i want some consistent pve with chatting

but when i log on to pvp server and i want a camp im going to get ya feel me heh

i dont wanna battle my dawg. just give it a shot, if ANYTHING its gonna be a new server with big pop and classic meaning... pvp every fucking where. if only one good thing comes out of this experiment itll be massive amounts of pvp for a few weeks.

hopefully its sucessful and all of you gain the same love for deity based hard coded teams as i. i assure you, you will see the light unless staff change this shit beyond recognition.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Doktoor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boring for sure.

How is history irrelevant?

Still yet to see anyone argue the facts of history.

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[Bazia]

o ill be there sam boxing old99 and teams99

but it's going to be hilarious watching these people get their shit pushed in at level 7 by a level 20 poopsocker begging people to leave their camps to come help and then rage when no one shows up

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i dont wanna battle my dawg. just give it a shot, if ANYTHING its gonna be a new server with big pop and classic meaning... pvp every fucking where. if only one good thing comes out of this experiment itll be massive amounts of pvp for a few weeks.

hopefully its sucessful and all of you gain the same love for deity based hard coded teams as i. i assure you, you will see the light unless staff change this shit beyond recognition.

I will give it a go for sure. Basically devs should take all my "negativity" and try to foresee the shitstorm thats coming and try to implement stuff that can deflect some of it. Maybe they can figure out something that can make it work, i just dont see it.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

o ill be there sam boxing old99 and teams99

but it's going to be hilarious watching these people get their shit pushed in at level 7 by a level 20 poopsocker begging people to leave their camps to come help and then rage when no one shows up

i honestly think they will go with a 4 level range, at least thats what they led me to believe.

just to add, i dont think you realize how long people have waited for a teams server. i played all the servers including discord on live and sz was my favorite. it was also the server in which i had accomplished the least amount of progression.

[Space]

Originally Posted by Doktoor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP is fun because PvP is fun. It's fun putting your wits against another human being instead of a predictable computer. Trying to incentivize PvP is futile: "If you build it, they will come." Make the PvP balanced and people will play it. Have it waste your time or be one sided and people will not play it.

Totally agree.

Having played both blue and red now to 50+, I would try red again, especially with teams. But being a bluebie and semi-casual, item loot sounds totally brutal to me, and I wouldn't personally play a server that included that.

This new server could draw some people away from blue, but it seems to me the less brutal it is, the more people will come.

[Vexenu]

Heartbrand and Bazia have had their souls sullied by the abuse they have witnessed and suffered on Red. They've been hardened, like people who were beaten as children and become bullies as a result. This is why it will come as such a surprise to them when they witness an enemy player trying to kill a young newblet on their team, and they reflexively step in to save him and kill the invader. Unbeknownst to them, they have hearts of gold, waiting to be uncovered when the rot of Red is washed away. Once they finally experience the glory that is PvP Teams under SZ rules, they are fated to become the unlikeliest of heroes. Embrace your destiny, gentlemen.