Game Mechanics: PVP plugging/ /q'ing with new rules

[quido]

Alecta, you rule

[Dullah]

You should not be able to attack a LD player ghost period. You shouldn't even see them.

Preventing LD players from being invuln while LD is one thing, but allowing players to hit and offline players ghost is very very bad.

[Retti_]

Ya allowing us to attack them is basically turning off zone plugging which is going to cause a shit ton of grief....

[Nizzarr]

so we'll be able to kill people that plugged now? not sure if I like.. how about they dont make a ghost in the first place instead?

[SamwiseRed]

making pluggers pop out on other side for 2 min sounds good to me.

[Alecta]

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I didn't say I was turning off plugging. And actually, no changes were made to plugging mechanics in the previous patch either.

The way plugging works today is the way it's always worked, the only difference is that if you timed your plug well (or poorly), you went from being an 'invulnerable rape machine' for 30 seconds to being one for 3 minutes.

The zoning process is basically this:

1. Client changes to loading screen.
2. Client says "ZoneEntry"; Server load the player profile, factions, etc. from database and sends it
3. Client changes to show status bar loading.
4. Client says "ReqNewZone"
5. Client says "ReqClientSpawn"; Server sends zone contents (mobs, doors, etc).
6. Client says "SendExpZonein" aka Zone me in, Scotty; This is where you show up in game.
7. Client says "ClientReady" and releases mouse; This is where you are made not invulnerable

If you happen to kill your client between the last two stages, you show up invulnerable, your connection will time out, and then you will go LD while partially loaded. That's when you are invulnerable and LD.

I will talk to Rogean about moving the point where you show up into ClientReady, but we have to see what other impacts that will have, aka it might break things.

tl;dr - I am not removing plugging. I am changing it so that if you plug late in the process, you are not rewarded with an invincible LD toon that can kill people for 3 minutes. If my changes negatively impact you, plug better (aka earlier).

[a_gnoll_pup]

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I didn't say I was turning off plugging. And actually, no changes were made to plugging mechanics in the previous patch either.

The way plugging works today is the way it's always worked, the only difference is that if you timed your plug well (or poorly), you went from being an 'invulnerable rape machine' for 30 seconds to being one for 3 minutes.

The zoning process is basically this:

1. Client changes to loading screen.
2. Client says "ZoneEntry"; Server load the player profile, factions, etc. from database and sends it
3. Client changes to show status bar loading.
4. Client says "ReqNewZone"
5. Client says "ReqClientSpawn"; Server sends zone contents (mobs, doors, etc).
6. Client says "SendExpZonein" aka Zone me in, Scotty; This is where you show up in game.
7. Client says "ClientReady" and releases mouse; This is where you are made not invulnerable

If you happen to kill your client between the last two stages, you show up invulnerable, your connection will time out, and then you will go LD while partially loaded. That's when you are invulnerable and LD.

I will talk to Rogean about moving the point where you show up into ClientReady, but we have to see what other impacts that will have, aka it might break things.

tl;dr - I am not removing plugging. I am changing it so that if you plug late in the process, you are not rewarded with an invincible LD toon that can kill people for 3 minutes. If my changes negatively impact you, plug better (aka earlier).

If you do this make sure to freeze the client in place, prevent all position updates and packets that involve another player or NPC. Plus make it only enabled on Red. Pretty much ignore everything from the client when the client is in the connecting phase.

I think your base does that, though I could be wrong. That would be my only concern. Basically don't want a scenario where you are LD invul and actually still playing by blocking the OP_ClientUpdate from sending itself. Though if you do that other things can trigger as a result [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Retti_]

Zone me in, Scotty;

I enjoyed that part