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[Yinikren]

Facts, Alarti? Your guild is scum, you and Ecc shit up RNF, and rogean is tired of you ruining the server by monopolizing every mob.

Go home dude, your team lost.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Ungriim [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact or Fiction Alarti? - Amelinda lifted a raid suspension ruling involving TMO and IB but only initially told TMO the ban was lifted?

Fact or fiction GM's have a long history(its actually a Staff rule) of not sharing rulings with the general populace?

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Facts, Alarti? Your guild is scum, you and Ecc shit up RNF, and rogean is tired of you ruining the server by monopolizing every mob.

Go home dude, your team lost.

That is like your... opinion man. We will be back in 2 weeks =)

[Ungriim]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A fact (derived from the Latin factum, see below) is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability, that is whether it can be proven to correspond to experience.

Actually fact would be factus (declination -a -um)

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ruining the server by monopolizing every mob.

The current "meta" of the raid scene is who has more well geared alts camped out at spawns, buffed and ready.

You might have missed that if you aren't participating in it.

I highly suspect they are trying to keep their advantage and this behavior would have continued in Velious. Decking out alts, having them ready to secure mobs.

Methinks all competing guilds are guilty of this, or trying to do so.

[Ungriim]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact or fiction GM's have a long history(its actually a Staff rule) of not sharing rulings with the general populace?

That wasn't my question.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Ungriim [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That wasn't my question.

Your question implied that actions were different from the norm. My question indicates that is Standard Operation procedure.

Your question was intended to mislead. Mine spreads truth.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So when I say I hope that I'm wrong. What does that mean?

Maybe I should be more optimistic about my own predictions and I'd be nicer?

I don't think I'm being mean about anything.

Sometimes the truth is ugly if you get my feels.

You keep suggesting a course of action for which you have said you believe it will fail. In general you have been very pessimistic about the future of the raiding game here. Any agreement between the various guilds on raid content will require less pessimism and "us vs them", and more optimism and camaraderie.

[Yinikren]

I do compete in the raid scene, and I do know that is it because of TMO that people are required to have accounts worth of alts to be able to raid.

I am thankful this is no longer the case, especially when TMO gets disbanded tonight.

[Xadion]

to anyone who thinks TMO is fully responsible for the 'shifted up' raid scene, or has not been aware of the 'interesting' raid scene history of this server really needs to bow out of commenting.

it is never one guild that does anything, if it was just TMO sitting there killing every raid mob with no outside interference etc there would be no 'csr issues' to deal with, or any other guild for that matter.

if there is 'competition' then there will be one trying to beat out (the) other(s)

if you take that away and give everything in a free rotation that's enforced by GM ruling, then you will destroy competition and the csr issues.

even with the fly by night raid rules posted, say ib fe ..or..are they one? Or not...anywho... Lets say they kill trak, and at next trak 3 guilds show up during the 2 hour window? Or is one guild going to stand there and say 'hey all XX number of you who are here, sorry your SOL we are letting the other guys have it... Show up next time!'

there will always be issues and questions and bending the rules.