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[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They were using game mechanics in an unintended way to get an edge and steal the kill. Sounds like a textbook example of an exploit.

because the pull was derailed from our pullers tho...

[Argh]

All i could think of reading this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkvAKfCNnUw

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Xadion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly wonder what and where you people live in your happy little worlds? There is force X that is dominant and in controlling Y content, resources whatever... You want Y but do not want to meet or exceed the force to acquire it? Everyone states that if you have the force to kill a mob you should get a chance... I have the ability to drive a GT-R that does not mean the Nissan dealership is just going to up and give me one.

This would be wise were it not for the fact that it has nothing to do with force, and everything to do with dedication, ie, logging on at a moments notice, camping out level 60's, and taking offhour batphones.

These mobs are not difficult. Many guilds are capable of taking out any or all of them. Not many guilds are willing to participate in the raid scene that you, and others, have created.

[Senaiel]

VD did raid solo competively pre IB alliance, server repops we would get 3 to 4 targets and a couple others each repop cycle (inny/fay/gore/talendor). However, we raided on our own more competitively post IB. We had 3 solo trak kills consecutively at one point and tried to work out a trak rotation but no dice. Then tmo got too personal by infiltrating VD and posting colds picture in rnf and no one else wanted to take over.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Recent Exploit

Recently, I found out via Rogean's inflammatory post that 2-3 TMO members who had access to a large number of TMO accounts used some sort of item dupe at some point in time on their own characters. Froovy and Internode are two that I have heard of so far (unfortunately members trusted them with access to many accounts, including one of my alt cleric accounts), I have not heard any other evidence implicating any other TMO members. Almost all banned accounts have nothing to do with any exploit. I am sure they will enjoy their no-eq christmas holidays thanks to Rogean's new hardline approach, banning unrelated parties.




In the past, we have dealt with things legitimately. We respect GMs and speak with you through the petition forums and proper channels. I am unsure why you are attacking TMO publicly rather than coming to the leadership and trying to get to the bottom of it. I would obviously assist you any way I can & remove any parties you informed me as cheaters. Banning 80+ unrelated parties seems like a personal vendetta more than anything. Especially when you do it while calling out the guild name, saying we were lucky to not been disbanded. TMO has been playing here since when the server pop was in the low 100s. We have been helping with promoting & classicizing the server for years; perhaps we have dominated the raid scene, but we have contributed as much as we can to bug reports and making this server the classic experience Nilbog envisions.

Real Money Trading



As far as I am aware, 1 ex-TMO named Crazyeyes the King of Thieves was caught for this recently. Totally caught us off guard, there's always been people who quit EQ and cash out, how can you hold a guild accountable for that - One individual member who bails.

Why were no other guilds who had RMTers in it called out to the server? Once again seems like a targeted attack.

Raid Scene



In the past, wizard epic first had been ninja looted off of CT by an officer of a rival guild and nothing was done except a personal suspension. A VP ninja loot of an exe blade off silverwing also occurred in the past with a 1 wk personal suspension. The public announcement of disciplinary action against TMO and the actions of our crazy french Canadian SK(Who has already been suspended for weeks for the infraction - & has a 2month suspension), should have no connection if you wish to be consistent.




If you wanted TMO to change our raid scene approach, you could have asked and we would have been open to any ideas. It seems more like you just want TMO to disband or be severely hurt. This has only been an issue since the return of the players who left for EQ mac. I hope we can resolve this and you will remove the post attacking TMO for a few individuals actions.




Thanks

TLDR,

But many paragraphs == UMAD

[Rangerboy]

listen peeps, the rules are simple and before you created an p99 account you were suppose to read the rules. If you break them then you get punished, plain and simple. I agree with Rogean and the other GMs on their decisions along with the majority of other players. I dont understand why people think Rogean is out to get them, he is just enforcing the rules. Not sure why Zeelot would post anything accusing Rogean of false accusations when really he should be looking at his own guild for breaking the rules.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Rangerboy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when really he should be looking at his own guild for breaking the rules.

[Millburn]

45 pages and still no apology, wonder if it's ever gonna happen.

[Rourk]

Originally Posted by Xadion

I honestly wonder what and where you people live in your happy little worlds? There is force X that is dominant and in controlling Y content, resources whatever... You want Y but do not want to meet or exceed the force to acquire it? Everyone states that if you have the force to kill a mob you should get a chance... I have the ability to drive a GT-R that does not mean the Nissan dealership is just going to up and give me one.

What a warped analogy. Don't forget to include in this example that force X cheats.

[jaybone]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Recent Exploit

Recently, I found out via Rogean's inflammatory post that 2-3 TMO members who had access to a large number of TMO accounts used some sort of item dupe at some point in time on their own characters. Froovy and Internode are two that I have heard of so far (unfortunately members trusted them with access to many accounts, including one of my alt cleric accounts), I have not heard any other evidence implicating any other TMO members. Almost all banned accounts have nothing to do with any exploit. I am sure they will enjoy their no-eq christmas holidays thanks to Rogean's new hardline approach, banning unrelated parties.




In the past, we have dealt with things legitimately. We respect GMs and speak with you through the petition forums and proper channels. I am unsure why you are attacking TMO publicly rather than coming to the leadership and trying to get to the bottom of it. I would obviously assist you any way I can & remove any parties you informed me as cheaters. Banning 80+ unrelated parties seems like a personal vendetta more than anything. Especially when you do it while calling out the guild name, saying we were lucky to not been disbanded. TMO has been playing here since when the server pop was in the low 100s. We have been helping with promoting & classicizing the server for years; perhaps we have dominated the raid scene, but we have contributed as much as we can to bug reports and making this server the classic experience Nilbog envisions.

Real Money Trading



As far as I am aware, 1 ex-TMO named Crazyeyes the King of Thieves was caught for this recently. Totally caught us off guard, there's always been people who quit EQ and cash out, how can you hold a guild accountable for that - One individual member who bails.

Why were no other guilds who had RMTers in it called out to the server? Once again seems like a targeted attack.

Raid Scene



In the past, wizard epic first had been ninja looted off of CT by an officer of a rival guild and nothing was done except a personal suspension. A VP ninja loot of an exe blade off silverwing also occurred in the past with a 1 wk personal suspension. The public announcement of disciplinary action against TMO and the actions of our crazy french Canadian SK(Who has already been suspended for weeks for the infraction - & has a 2month suspension), should have no connection if you wish to be consistent.




If you wanted TMO to change our raid scene approach, you could have asked and we would have been open to any ideas. It seems more like you just want TMO to disband or be severely hurt. This has only been an issue since the return of the players who left for EQ mac. I hope we can resolve this and you will remove the post attacking TMO for a few individuals actions.




Thanks

why are you such a fucking baby?