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View Poll Results: Which changes would you like to see?
Xasten-style Bag Limit 69 25.84%
Sloan-style Delays 119 44.57%
No Poopsocking 117 43.82%
Petition for repops 93 34.83%
Petition for variance reduction 95 35.58%
Bush knocked down the towers/Loraen is my hero/I always check the 'retard' option on polls 37 13.86%
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Old 12-23-2013, 01:21 AM
Handull Handull is offline
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2 hour rule helps the top two guilds to not fight as much, hence less training and less fte issues. the 50% rule doesn't add much to that, but it does mean guilds have to be a little selective. no poopsocking is great, but also hard to limit for certain mobs (take VS, obviously you have to allow people to be exping in the zone, but can an army of 40 afk on the steps outside VS room? what about at box room? at zone in? how many are allowed to face track vs at one time, etc). varience reduction will increase the bennefit to poopsocking, and increase the desire for other guilds to get involved in raiding, which will in turn increase the need to poopsock. some mobs you can avoid poopsocking by using rules, but even those rules can be lawyered ("we logged out our jugg raid of 15 people and 1 minute later a different 15 people logged in to raid juggs from our guild, clearly within the rules") and the easier poopsocking is, the more people will do it and the more of a problem this will be. The only reason poopsocking is dead is because a mob's true window is nearly a week long, so it just isn't worth it.

the real problem is its just too easy to cross the line from legit competition to being a dick. its also a hard line to define. being a dick to one person is fair competition to another, from there its just a matter of time before all the lines are blurred and everyone is a dick to each other.

that said, I think we have a really good thing going atm. guilds helping guilds, etc. keep it up everyone!
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