All Players are Raid Suspended Until Further Notice

[eqravenprince]

I think it's awesome raiding is suspended. EQ is a better game without raiding.

[k2summit]

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[Krissdu64]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, I think this might make close to the top for one of the most self-entitled back-tracking douchebags the server has seen yet.

Someone should explain to him that we aren't a company, we don't get paid, and the only time we have is in addition to full time jobs. Oh and nobody "promised" him anything.

At least i made my point. You can't blame the players for a phenomenon you created...

The only solution is more content or less people on the server (more servers)

These agreements won't work in the long run, and it won't either generate less petitions for your support team.

[Itap]

Maybe I can find a group on my warrior now

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Coding new "things" in the game is not a fix. Devs do not have time or WANT to do so. Figure out something that doesnt require changing existing code.

Saying you want something to change but unwilling to do something for that change if it impacts you is saying that you don't actually value that change strongly enough to warrant others giving effort since you won't yourself. Leadership 101.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saying you want something to change but unwilling to do something for that change if it impacts you is saying that you don't actually value that change strongly enough to warrant others giving effort since you won't yourself. Leadership 101.

They dont answer to you, or anyone. If you do not like the way they are doing things, you don't have to play here. They want to do changes without code changes. Those are the parameters. Do so.

[Brut]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That makes an assumption of your future actions which are contrary to the history of your past actions as a guild which makes your statement non-credible.

I don't even.

Think of the "gear gap" we want to maintain like this: I basically have the #1 or #2 (considering Hasbinbad is an app atm) rogue in our guild. Only pieces of equipment that aren't A) sky B) EC bought from months of plat farming are a Cloak of Piety (a minor upgrade to SBC I had prior to it), Golden Efreeti Vambs (and most every rogue would be wearing Mithril Vambraces over these) and recently a VP offhander that adds tiny amount of parse difference to EoN (and probably will get me killed cuz of goofyass dd proc).

There is no massive gear difference from what you can get doing sky or tunnel ratting. A druid having a leafblower isn't going to make him heal for more or nuke harder, a wizard having a couple mana tick rune clicky isnt going to make or break a raid, most every SK with his disco sword is barely ever meleeing anything. The amount of plat people can make and have made on the server is huge, and everyone and anyone can get a CoF within a month if they have any clue what to go farming.

There hardly exists a vast gear gap that gives us or TMO a sheer Velious advantage. The resist gear people wear is basically the same damned diamond jewelry, only big thing going on with a max VP decked tank and one wearing indicolite is that they might have 300 more hp. TMO isn't going to beat everyone to Zlandicar because their shamans can clicky buff 10 all stats. The gear difference is nearly nonexistant in Kunark, so it's delusional to assume we'd want to block all raiding altogether to maintain something that really isn't there. As far as I can see, TMO was not blocking the dragons because it gives them a gear advantage, it's because it got them applicants and kept the machine going, as such keeping them ready whenever Velious would pop up.

Furthermore, FE IB and TMO are all raiding guilds; if they're not raiding, the people in them are barely online. Acting like the standstill in negotiations and the current serverwide raiding suspension outcome is somehow favorable to us is absolutely ridiculous. This is only going to hurt all of us since people will probably go play Rust or Minecraft or whatever and potentially not log back in when the whole thing gets resolved. If we sit 3-4 months doing nothing but sitting around farming HS or playing snes emulator, our numbers are going down hard.

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They dont answer to you, or anyone. If you do not like the way they are doing things, you don't have to play here. They want to do changes without code changes. Those are the parameters. Do so.

I never made a claim that they did and I am freely aware of their and my own options.

If you don't like the truth that others aren't motivated to act when the person telling them to act is not motivated to do so then you have a problem with basic human psychology.

[drakelord]

All of this kind of fighting is what led to instances in the first place, which makes me a sad panda. I hate instances, but in a way I understand how they might be necessary for some zones.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you want instances or triggered spawns there are tons of other MMOs out there like that. but the competition/racing for mobs aspect is one of the major things that set Classic EQ apart from other MMOs, and is here to stay in some fashion or another.

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

every server on EQLive had different tweaks and twists to their rule sets. some were rotation

How can you acknowledge that some (and I think it was actually most) servers had some rotation/play nice agreements between guilds and still insist that "competition" is so much of what EQ was about? Many people, myself included, have posted about our servers doing rotations, honoring FiF, etc. This "competition" that you seem to want was never a part of my classic experience.

I cannot help but feel that you guys are trying to enforce a PvP mindset on a PvE server, instead of trying to make the red server where players who want to compete against other players go.