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Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This really is a community wide compromise and I can't say I saw the simulated patch days coming into the picture like this.

Compromise is defined as an agreement or a settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions. Unless you see the play nice policy as a form of concession, then there were no concessions made by the hardcore guilds in this arrangement.

The question has laid on the distribution of mobs. We have X number, how do those get divvied up among the server guilds? The style championed by FE/TMO, etc., is the one that is more advantageous to them, the FFA system. Other people remember a classic experience of cooperation. So each side has, in their mind, what their ideal classic server is, and what they want from it.

Lets look at what happens now. You have 4 new repops added, the first two go to casuals. So, before this system, there were X mobs, and now there are X + Y mobs. The hardcores still get X mobs with the same level they did before, but they also get 1/2 Y. So, their total is X + 1/2 Y, meanwhile casuals go from 0 to 1/2 Y, without getting a share of X.

This isn't a compromise. This was a gain for the hardcore raiders more than anything. If a casual guild wants to do anything but go along for these 2 repops (which should last, what, 4 to 6 hours if you count both together, depending on how long it takes?), they are still required to play on the hardcore raider's terms.

This is in no way even close to concessions on both sides, this is casuals accepting and giving up any hope on creating their classic experience because the hardcore guilds wouldn't compromise on anything. After all, they owned the server, and now they get to own the server, and now proportionally even more. And casuals still have to play in the style of hardcore raiders to get anywhere, other than for 6 hours a month.

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't see how any guild, GM or guide can dictate any guild to adapt to a play style they don't want to. Focus on that, figure how the two different sides can adapt it to this problem. Limiting NPCs to one tier or another and forced into the other side's play style is the second biggest issue.