Here's your chance to influence LnS

[Tarigin]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we be real for a second? Two people got banned. One of them killed a half dozen people on LNS and petitioned saying that he would ignore the GMs and rules. He was previously banned for stripping and deleting multiple characters. He used an auto swap weapon UI, a shared bank UI and distributed these on his guild forum. This player was incredibly toxic.

The other player had been previously banned for boxing, high sunned mobs and claims he petitioned it though no GM has confirmed that. He mercilessly griefed new players off the box, exploited instruments and weapons, exploited IP exemption poofing in pvp, I could go on.

The second player still plays here.

The rules aren't difficult. This is a free server, no one has any rights here. To be honest, the GM action here is incredibly classic, the " you're in our world now ." If you were spamming n**** in ooc on live you would have been instantly and permanently banned. Say the word fuck in ooc? That's likely a suspension. Accuse guides / GMs of questionable decisions? Ban.

To be quite honest, GMs are TOO lenient here. Perhaps of GMs would ban MORE people and clean this sever up we would see the pop go up. The biggest issue as I see it is the ability to get infinite emulator accounts and keep re rolling.

Keep up the good work GMs, ignore the noise. The only way to build this server again is to clean it of the racist / homophobic / tin foil hat wearers who crap on OOC, ignore the PNP and make this server unplayable.

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[plagueis]

all this policy promotes is confusion and leagues of alts waiting in the wings. lns was implemented with vague wording rather than approaching it from the programming side and forcing effects on people(like a res effect) and the confusion over rules and heavy handed one sided punishments have left this server in shambles. re wording the policy is just a band-aid solution and is still going to leave gms with 1000 petitions a week and players with a poor impression of the server. try telling a returning or new player about these rules and see how long they stay.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except neither of my bans should have been bans according to rules and common sense. One for deleting char of player known for deleting and stealing accounts/characters/gear + RMT without any repercussions.



One for killing a player in mass pvp among 30 other players that remained in zone when they should have been gone according to LNS.

Keep rewriting the rules though, the GMs will lead you to victory.

Many dragons being slain by Red Dawn, zero involving the PNP. Sorry pal, you lose. Good luck on your eigth rogue tho.

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Must have got a BCG eh?

[Kontra]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many dragons being slain by Red Dawn, zero involving the PNP. Sorry pal, you lose. Good luck on your eigth rogue tho.

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Red Dawn violation #1 Ressing 20 players during the Solb/Lavastorm fight. The one were Tune/Spectre were banned.

Red Dawn violation #2 Denied LNS to shipit. One red dawn enchanter ran back 3 times tashing, dispelling people during the DL/Gore fight.

I am not saying there has not been violations on each side. But acting like Red Dawn has no violations is laughable.

[heartbrand]

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lavasotmr

[Labanen]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, and the 1 guy who died would also be able to go in and contest if he wanted to forfeit loot and scoot. There is no auto-loot and scoot in small scale PvP, and loot and scoot is called on a per person basis. So if 2 people died and 3 people remained, those three could continue fighting wherever they wanted. If 1 people came back and called loot and scoot they could loot up and leave, if the 2nd person did not want to do so he could forfeit loot and scoot by not calling it, and continue contesting.

I copy/pasted the auto-LnS rule to both large and small scale PvP and applied it on accident without thinking about it, but that rule only applies to large scale PvP (since you aren't required to LnS in small scale if you don't want to). I've edited OP to reflect that.



I did the one sentence thing because someone mentioned that earlier, sorry I didn't mean to make it sound like that was directed at you. What part is unclear though? Or not simple? If I can sum it up in 1 sentence it's probably simple. It looks long and confusing but it's not, thats just to make sure things are clearly defined. This would be needed in any LnS ruleset, regardless of implementation.

thanks for the reply, seems to make some sense now. Will make a comeback when i got time to see how its being used.

[Ryko]

I wanted to comment on the RnF that has been going on in this thread. Many RD (k9quaint) have mentioned how good the zoning lns is because "Nizzar will never call LNs" while at the same time stating that all Nilly is fighting for there own agenda... If he did not call LNS for his dead what is te problem with sitting on Nilly corpses?

It seems to me that being able to kill one person and have everyone else zone is a huge point for RD as nihilum has had many small forces fight gainst a RD Zerg at KC zone line, untill reserves come. With this rule Nihilum would basically have to sit in DL doing nothing untill they had a force large enough for one single push. After that push one winning team would be crowned. If that is what the CSR is looking for then disregard what I have said as I think it will work.

What it will hurt is pvp in general as rather than plunking into kc dropping a few people and fighting for control over a period of time( haven't seen it take more than 30 mins to and hour myself) people must just wait for there own Zerg before they can logically engage.

Point 6 of guild a zone into 10 of guild B in KC. Guild a gets one YT, guild b gets one YT. Guild a zones out due to numbers... They are now on LNS for one hour due to one YT that could potentially happen instantly on a caster zoning into a rogue waiting.

Tl;dr I LOVE gongs how's idea

[Kontra]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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lavasotmr

Notice how he did not comment on the violations.

[Tassador]

My only contribution to this subject. Players who flop aka cry ban should be suspended if no actual infraction has yet to take place. Any cry bans in ooc should result in player being suspended for one month.